Quick Dry For Making BHO???

cindysid

cindysid

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I am planning to make BHO as a cancer treatment for my husband. Some of my plants are about ready to harvest, but I was wondering if anyone had experience with drying specifically for this purpose. I don't see any reason for curing, but maybe I'm wrong. I have read that the buds need to be "bone dry" for the purest extraction. I would like to find a quicker way than conventional drying, but of course I don't want to do anything to degrade the final product. Any help from those with experience is greatly appreciated!
 
TheChosen

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You can dry it quickly which will give you the yield you're looking for, but you will sacrifice in taste tremendously. I would hang dry, paper bag your plants as you normally would and then jar them. But instead of leaving them in the jar and burping it as usual take them out and put them in the paper bag for small amounts of time. This should help speed up the process somewhat while little sacrifice is made.

Curing also has an effect on potency, remember that.
 
cindysid

cindysid

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TheChosen said:
You can dry it quickly which will give you the yield you're looking for, but you will sacrifice in taste tremendously. I would hang dry, paper bag your plants as you normally would and then jar them. But instead of leaving them in the jar and burping it as usual take them out and put them in the paper bag for small amounts of time. This should help speed up the process somewhat while little sacrifice is made.

Curing also has an effect on potency, remember that.
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Thanks for your advice. Since he's going to be taking it by suppository, taste isn't an issue...LOL, but
potency everything.
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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Here's my take on it, in which i will completely ignore flavour.

Properly dried bud get's me much higher than speedily dried bud.

Properly cured bud get's me much higher than uncured bud.

It is the trichs which are getting me high so far as my limited knowledge of science informs me. So as such said knowledge tells em that speedily dried bud turned into BHO is not going to be ass potent as properly dried bud turned into BHO which is not going to be as potent as properly cured buds turned into BHO.

People dry and cure propperly for potency, not just flavour.
 
bshdctr

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cindysid,
1st off best wishes to your husband and I hope your treatment kicks the cancer's butt!

Anyhow I agree with other responses that BHO made from cured herb would be more potent than quick dried herb....However I have made BHO from quick dried herb several times and I imagine the cannabinoid levels would be high enough for starting the treatment against the cancer (since I imagine you would like to flood his body with cannabinoids asap?). After harvesting I chopped up the pot (buds and sugar leaf) into small pieces and placed them on a roasting rack that I could place in the oven and everything would get good circulation. I then place it in a 170 degree oven for about 10 min. and shut the oven off for 10 min....then turn it back on to 170 for 10 min...and repeat the process until the buds are crispy bone dry...then stuff your tube and make the bho.

I also am curious if you are planning on decarboxylating either the herb or the oil after extraction since the oil is going to be taken internally and not for smoking?
I have been decarbing oil (I eat it for pain control) in the oven for 25 min at 250 degrees f and I obtained this time and temperature frame from this graph I found over on greenpassion.org - https://www.greenpassion.org/index.php?/topic/23435-decarboxylation/

Good luck with it all!
Bshdctr
 
acidbox420

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if you want to dry some buds really quick just to make a lil BHO to get treatment started i say cut the stems away then cut up the buds into small chunks that will make them dry allot quicker the smaller the chunks the faster the dry. honestly i dont see how cureing makes for more potency i use fresh trim for bubble hash and once the hash is dry its as potent as its gonna get
 
Hugo Phurst

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Fast dry, no degradation (as far as I can tell).

Preheat oven to 135F, place prepared weed on a cookie sheet, or in a paper bag, whatever.
Bake until very dry and crispy, turning every 1/2 hour or so.
Heat induced decarb starts at 122F, CBN's(?) start to evaporate at 150F, that's why I use 135F, works great.

Here's a question back. If I'm going to make an extract, do I still need to flush?
 
bshdctr

bshdctr

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Hugo Phurst said:
Fast dry, no degradation (as far as I can tell).

Preheat oven to 135F, place prepared weed on a cookie sheet, or in a paper bag, whatever.
Bake until very dry and crispy, turning every 1/2 hour or so.
Heat induced decarb starts at 122F, CBN's(?) start to evaporate at 150F, that's why I use 135F, works great.

Here's a question back. If I'm going to make an extract, do I still need to flush?
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Flushing: IMHO yes if using bottled nutes.
Curious where you got the decarbing temperatures you mentioned? Not saying they are wrong at all...I'm just always trying to learn more about it and by your numbers I am evaporating off all my cannabinoids (and by experience I know that they still have something left, as they sure are medicating..) but by the graph I am going by you are not achieving full decarb by a long shot. Again not saying you are wrong.. :)
Apologies to the OP for going slightly off topic-
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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So have you tried propperly curing to see if it is more potent? Or did you decide that it was potent enough? Do you understand the science that goes on during the curing process? People cure their weed prior to making their hash for a very good reason ;)
 
acidbox420

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i have cured some stuff for about a year and 3 months is so far the longest iv let any thing cure so far, and no i cant say that once the moisture content is even through out the bud that i have gotten more high of a bowl of the same bud. The hash isnt around for more then a month ushly and its just as potent a week in as it is at the end of the month. For all i know it does increases in potency but to me its so miniscule an increases id never notice
 
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acidbox420 said:
i have cured some stuff for about a year and 3 months is so far the longest iv let any thing cure so far, and no i cant say that once the moisture content is even through out the bud that i have gotten more high of a bowl of the same bud. The hash isnt around for more then a month ushly and its just as potent a week in as it is at the end of the month. For all i know it does increases in potency but to me its so miniscule an increases id never notice
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Chances are you are not doing it right then. Aside from the flavour, people cure for a very good reason :D For myself, the difference between uncured and cured bud or the resulting hash is black and white.
 
acidbox420

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i always get a cleaner bubble with fresh trim not a spec of green with dryed cured trim its to easy to agitate to much. So how long cure before you start smoking your hash or bud?
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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This has nothing to do with the level of plant matter containment of the hash, that is a completely different discussion.

My weed and hash goes from everything frm a week after harvest to a few months, and the results are always identical, cured kicks the arse out of not-cured.
 
Hugo Phurst

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