FlowaMasta'a NEW Jack H x Skunk - 1 Plant 600HPS + UVB Monster Scrog!!!

[F.M.I.L.Y]

Let the party begin...Flowering time for you!!!! Cant wait to see them colas forming. Have you seen any of the time lapse grow videos on You tube??? They are insane and awesome to watch.

[video=youtube;bEL7dlBCdKc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bEL7dlBCdKc[/video]

Enjoy

FM

 

[swampwater]

Hey FM, Bravo on the time-line. I love the monsters you grow and want to grow scrogs but I have an issue with my set up. I veg in one area and then move to flower. Have you seen a portable scrog that works well. Here is what happened when I tryed to stretch through the screen in flower only.

Harvest will be a bit of a bitch but I'm commited to seeing it through now (the frame is 30"sq.). She only stretched around 10" if I try this method again I'll push the tops down when I install it and see what happens.
I welcome any input or ideas you may have to make a portable scrog work. (yea that is a 26 wat. 10.0 UVB cfl).

 

[flowamasta]

nice time lapse F.M! yeah i don't mind them at all....

swampwater, i rarely see a scrog portable, could be done, using larger squares maybe, it will be a bit of a tangle, mine is weaved like clothing, so not possible
wow i'm bent

 

[monster.green.thumb]

flowa will u help a brutha out? check my last post in my thread...if ya can...

 

[Gorbzzz]

Wake up Flowa! mmmm 1:07 [youtube]86khmc6y1yE[/youtube]




this is all I have to look at till I get my seeds

 

[[420]Haze]

Wake up Flowa! mmmm 1:07 [youtube]86khmc6y1yE[/youtube]




this is all I have to look at till I get my seeds

You should grow some beasts in that setup man, little bit of advice, in the future, id be changing those feeder rings over, they will get clogged pretty quickly with salts build up as there only thin and small, i use halo's and dont get any clogs at all throughout the entire grow, i like that the halo's shoot a fine mist over the entire medium surface as well, where as those outlets will only give run off to a certain area within the perlite, just my 2 cents worth.

 

[Gorbzzz]

^^ yeah thanks mate, im up for any input and ideas I was going to buy a halo but the only one they had at the grow shop was about 20cm wide and the owner said they pump out a shit load of water and suggested to make my own like above. If they do get clogged ill be sure to follow your advice, cheers

 

[[420]Haze]

Hey FM, Bravo on the time-line. I love the monsters you grow and want to grow scrogs but I have an issue with my set up. I veg in one area and then move to flower. Have you seen a portable scrog that works well. Here is what happened when I tryed to stretch through the screen in flower only.
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Harvest will be a bit of a bitch but I'm commited to seeing it through now (the frame is 30"sq.). She only stretched around 10" if I try this method again I'll push the tops down when I install it and see what happens.
I welcome any input or ideas you may have to make a portable scrog work. (yea that is a 26 wat. 10.0 UVB cfl).

Next round, run 2 nets, let your plant branch and spread into the first net, once its minimum 2 nodes above the net, top all the growth tips so they double, drop your next net, everything above net 1 will double so you double the amount of heads per level, then wait till they reach about 4" over net 2 and flip to flower, try not to do to much horizontal training, get them spread out, however, dont spend to much time on horizontal training.

As for the portability, theres no reason any scrog cant be portable, its a matter of how you hold the scrog framing, if you attach it to walls or poles orif its attached to legs or something that can hold it at the correct level. Build 2 levels into the frame so you can run 2 nets.

 

[flowamasta]

^^ yeah thanks mate, im up for any input and ideas I was going to buy a halo but the only one they had at the grow shop was about 20cm wide and the owner said they pump out a shit load of water and suggested to make my own like above. If they do get clogged ill be sure to follow your advice, cheers

I use the standard feed rings, and it seems to work fine, the flow isn't exactly covering the entire area, but after 15 minutes of re-circulating the entire pot is soaked, rockwool and all, perlite will soak up water to a degree, it won't over saturate the rockwool.
I've never had any blockages with my feed rings either, and they have 5/6 outlet nipples and it's 10 inches in diameter.

If you are feeding regularly you shouldn't get too much salt build up, providing you're using good nutrients that is. i don't see any salt build up in my res ever. i run a very clean system, that i flush each week, if not more. i talk to the plant

 

[[420]Haze]

^^ yeah thanks mate, im up for any input and ideas I was going to buy a halo but the only one they had at the grow shop was about 20cm wide and the owner said they pump out a shit load of water and suggested to make my own like above. If they do get clogged ill be sure to follow your advice, cheers

Its quite easy to work out, your correct in your thought though, the halo's do pump out alot of water, in saying that though, i have found that shorter feeds at more regular intervals makes for better uptake, therefore overall growth. Alot of people will irrigate for 10-15 mins flooding the medium and stripping alot of oxygen out of it decreasing the window of which it can uptake as it has to wait for balance between the medium, nutrient and oxygen to come back into the correct range for it to feed. You can also run a test in which you calculate how much water your system drops in a set time, mine drops 500ml per pot over 4 pots in 12 secs every 3 hours, this means i have stable constant uptake, so i dont get alot of run off back to the res as the plants drink what they are fed. Think of it like this....

Think of your plant as an elite athlete, athletes dont over eat or drink thinking "fuck im not sure when im going to be fed again and when i am will i actually be hungry then or not ?", the only eat what is required for them to perform at peak performance, your plant is the same, feed it little bit but regulary and watch them explode.

 

[[420]Haze]

I use the standard feed rings, and it seems to work fine, the flow isn't exactly covering the entire area, but after 15 minutes of re-circulating the entire pot is soaked, rockwool and all, perlite will soak up water to a degree, it won't over saturate the rockwool.
I've never had any blockages with my feed rings either, and they have 5/6 outlet nipples and it's 10 inches in diameter.

If you are feeding regularly you shouldn't get too much salt build up, providing you're using good nutrients that is. i don't see any salt build up in my res ever. i run a very clean system, that i flush each week, if not more. i talk to the plant

Your right as always flow, good nutes make a difference, your also a madmen for cleaning your res and only feeding your girl totally fresh solution, lol, thats not a bad at all, in fact, its probably the best way to get the most of the plant, but, most are not as regular with cleaning etc, its good to know how its responds from both sides to make an informed choice/decision.

 

[F.M.I.L.Y]

I use the standard feed rings, and it seems to work fine, the flow isn't exactly covering the entire area, but after 15 minutes of re-circulating the entire pot is soaked, rockwool and all, perlite will soak up water to a degree, it won't over saturate the rockwool.
I've never had any blockages with my feed rings either, and they have 5/6 outlet nipples and it's 10 inches in diameter.

If you are feeding regularly you shouldn't get too much salt build up, providing you're using good nutrients that is. i don't see any salt build up in my res ever. i run a very clean system, that i flush each week, if not more. i talk to the plant

I fist my plants....lol

@Haze I might need your help with my SCRoG when I start soon.

 

[flowamasta]

Its quite easy to work out, your correct in your thought though, the halo's do pump out alot of water, in saying that though, i have found that shorter feeds at more regular intervals makes for better uptake, therefore overall growth. Alot of people will irrigate for 10-15 mins flooding the medium and stripping alot of oxygen out of it decreasing the window of which it can uptake as it has to wait for balance between the medium, nutrient and oxygen to come back into the correct range for it to feed. You can also run a test in which you calculate how much water your system drops in a set time, mine drops 500ml per pot over 4 pots in 12 secs every 3 hours, this means i have stable constant uptake, so i dont get alot of run off back to the res as the plants drink what they are fed. Think of it like this....

Think of your plant as an elite athlete, athletes dont over eat or drink thinking "fuck im not sure when im going to be fed again and when i am will i actually be hungry then or not ?", the only eat what is required for them to perform at peak performance, your plant is the same, feed it little bit but regulary and watch them explode.

So True.

Your right as always flow, good nutes make a difference, your also a madmen for cleaning your res and only feeding your girl totally fresh solution, lol, thats not a bad at all, in fact, its probably the best way to get the most of the plant, but, most are not as regular with cleaning etc, its good to know how its responds from both sides to make an informed choice/decision.

lol, my res is always sparkling clean with big clear bubbles The way i see it, is the plant is getting less of a good feed as it goes through the week, and the plant starts to use the food up, i don't use ppm meter ( yeah yeah i should ) soon..... i can actually see the plants vigor change on fresh nutes, even half way through the week for an early flush, it feels like i'm changin my dogs water bowl outside. my dogs gonna be more happy drinking clean fresh sparkling water

I may be going overboard, but anyone here can be the judge really, i can clearly see i got some great growth for the short time i've grown in

 

[flowamasta]

Its quite easy to work out, your correct in your thought though, the halo's do pump out alot of water, in saying that though, i have found that shorter feeds at more regular intervals makes for better uptake, therefore overall growth. Alot of people will irrigate for 10-15 mins flooding the medium and stripping alot of oxygen out of it decreasing the window of which it can uptake as it has to wait for balance between the medium, nutrient and oxygen to come back into the correct range for it to feed. You can also run a test in which you calculate how much water your system drops in a set time, mine drops 500ml per pot over 4 pots in 12 secs every 3 hours, this means i have stable constant uptake, so i dont get alot of run off back to the res as the plants drink what they are fed. Think of it like this....

Think of your plant as an elite athlete, athletes dont over eat or drink thinking "fuck im not sure when im going to be fed again and when i am will i actually be hungry then or not ?", the only eat what is required for them to perform at peak performance, your plant is the same, feed it little bit but regulary and watch them explode.

So True.

Your right as always flow, good nutes make a difference, your also a madmen for cleaning your res and only feeding your girl totally fresh solution, lol, thats not a bad at all, in fact, its probably the best way to get the most of the plant, but, most are not as regular with cleaning etc, its good to know how its responds from both sides to make an informed choice/decision.

lol, my res is always sparkling clean with big clear bubbles The way i see it, is the plant is getting less of a good feed as it goes through the week, and the plant starts to use the food up, i don't use ppm meter ( yeah yeah i should ) soon..... i can actually see the plants vigor change on fresh nutes, even half way through the week for an early flush, it feels like i'm changin my dogs water bowl outside. my dogs gonna be more happy drinking clean fresh sparkling water

I may be going overboard, but anyone here can be the judge really, i can clearly see i got some great growth for the short time i've grown in

 

[[420]Haze]

So True.


lol, my res is always sparkling clean with big clear bubbles The way i see it, is the plant is getting less of a good feed as it goes through the week, and the plant starts to use the food up, i don't use ppm meter ( yeah yeah i should ) soon..... i can actually see the plants vigor change on fresh nutes, even half way through the week for an early flush, it feels like i'm changin my dogs water bowl outside. my dogs gonna be more happy drinking clean fresh sparkling water

I may be going overboard, but anyone here can be the judge really, i can clearly see i got some great growth for the short time i've grown in

Far from overboard buddy, like you say the results speak for themselves, lol, cant fucking argue the evidence !!

Your mid week flushes are a practice that should be done by all, i flush 2 times a week, once on res change and 1 flush mid week and heres the reason why.......

Look at our almighty mother nature, in the outdoors, plants retrieve nutrients and trace elements etc from the earth, the soil, now when it rains outside, all the goodness and organic nutrient get flushed further into earth and away from the plant and replaced with rain water, over the coming days the soil regenerates its organic nutrient through all sorts of contributing natural factors until it rains again, this "flush" helps keep your plants nutrient uptake at maximum as the water in effect refreshes and replenishes the plant so its ready for the next uptake, almost removing stale old nutrient. An ex member here refers to it as the "make it rain" technique that you may have heard about.

 

[[420]Haze]

I fist my plants....lol

@Haze I might need your help with my SCRoG when I start soon.

Happy to help in anyway as flowa is im sure.

 

[flowamasta]

Its quite easy to work out, your correct in your thought though, the halo's do pump out alot of water, in saying that though, i have found that shorter feeds at more regular intervals makes for better uptake, therefore overall growth. Alot of people will irrigate for 10-15 mins flooding the medium and stripping alot of oxygen out of it decreasing the window of which it can uptake as it has to wait for balance between the medium, nutrient and oxygen to come back into the correct range for it to feed. You can also run a test in which you calculate how much water your system drops in a set time, mine drops 500ml per pot over 4 pots in 12 secs every 3 hours, this means i have stable constant uptake, so i dont get alot of run off back to the res as the plants drink what they are fed. Think of it like this....

Think of your plant as an elite athlete, athletes dont over eat or drink thinking "fuck im not sure when im going to be fed again and when i am will i actually be hungry then or not ?", the only eat what is required for them to perform at peak performance, your plant is the same, feed it little bit but regulary and watch them explode.

Far from overboard buddy, like you say the results speak for themselves, lol, cant fucking argue the evidence !!

Your mid week flushes are a practice that should be done by all, i flush 2 times a week, once on res change and 1 flush mid week and heres the reason why.......

Look at our almighty mother nature, in the outdoors, plants retrieve nutrients and trace elements etc from the earth, the soil, now when it rains outside, all the goodness and organic nutrient get flushed further into earth and away from the plant and replaced with rain water, over the coming days the soil regenerates its organic nutrient through all sorts of contributing natural factors until it rains again, this "flush" helps keep your plants nutrient uptake at maximum as the water in effect refreshes and replenishes the plant so its ready for the next uptake, almost removing stale old nutrient. An ex member here refers to it as the "make it rain" technique that you may have heard about.

Make it Rain!!! lol, lights 4 hrs away hehe....gotta put that net in tonight, get my hippie in there in her undies

 

[MISSPHOEBE]

Make it Rain!!! lol, lights 4 hrs away hehe....gotta put that net in tonight, get my hippie in there in her undies

hahahaha nice!
u gottit good aint ya Flow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[flowamasta]

hahahaha nice!
u gottit good aint ya Flow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you bet i do, and 'in her undies part' is just for my pleasure really! I tell her that i dont want to risk bugs or anything hehe Not many things are nicer than watching ya sexy mrs in her undies ass up in the tent, trying to bend in the most uncomfortable positions LOL!! hehe she earns her free bud jk

Day 2 Flowering, she stretched a good 2-3 inches since last night, we put the new net in, things are looking nice and full, not 'overly' cramped but I think i'll get a nice yield. No PGR's just yet. not needed
I lolly popped a heap of branches under the canopy, including one that got post-insect damage....no germs in my tent please!
Comments most welcome ofcourse.

Flo

 

[flowamasta]

'To pgr or not to pgr' tis the question.........not going to stunt her just yet, but i am still deciding to use Part B/and or how much