First time growing in 10 years, tell me what you think of my setup

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budleydoright

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Actually low 50s on the RH is fine as long as the air is fresh and moving about.


Why the fuck not? I haven't heard anything that contradicts the info that I have which says that you can safely go up to 95 degrees with 2500 PPM so I am just erring on the side of caution and pumping a little extra CO2 in there. I really think I only need around 1800 for 88 degrees but WTF CO2 is cheap.
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Co2 isn't a anedote for high temps. While I'm sure there's nothing that specifically disproves your theory, there is plenty of data that shows anything over 1500 is a waste. but hey WTF, your plants look great and if your getting results then you have more first hand experience running that hot than I do.
 
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berkman858

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budleydoright said:
Actually low 50s on the RH is fine as long as the air is fresh and moving about.




Co2 isn't a anedote for high temps. While I'm sure there's nothing that specifically disproves your theory, there is plenty of data that shows anything over 1500 is a waste. but hey WTF, your plants look great and if your getting results then you have more first hand experience running that hot than I do.
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Thanks, I thought low 50s would be OK. As for the CO2, I have read plenty of data that says higher temps and higher CO2 PPM, yes up to 2500, actually accelerates transpiration and growth therefore increasing yield. I am too scared to try temps above 88 or 89, maybe next time, but I am not too scared to try more CO2.

P.S. - I am kind of glad my controller only lets me go up to 2000 CO2 PPM, otherwise I might get a little crazy with it and really do some damage; like pass out in the tent the day before harvest and then never get to enjoy all my hard work. CO2 can kill you if it is concentrated enough, I know that.
 
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budleydoright

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berkman858 said:
Well, that is only if the t-shirt is on a chick with some nice cans, that's a no go on the pancake ta-tas with water on them. Keep those puppies dry and safely tucked away in the corner.
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fortunately in my world only chicks with nice cans break them out. we're not talking white trash mardi gras: sturgis, nascar events etc...
 
billcollector99

billcollector99

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berkman858 said:
Why? Are we having a frost off?? Everyone wins in that competition.:leaf:

I will post some tomorrow, I have to wait until the light goes off because I can't stand the loss of detail with the HPS.
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nah, no competition here brutha. I just wanted to see the growth, thats all. tomorrow is cool. lol no rush
 
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budleydoright

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berkman858 said:
Thanks, I thought low 50s would be OK. As for the CO2, I have read plenty of data that says higher temps and higher CO2 PPM, yes up to 2500, actually accelerates transpiration and growth therefore increasing yield. I am too scared to try temps above 88 or 89, maybe next time, but I am not too scared to try more CO2.

P.S. - I am kind of glad my controller only lets me go up to 2000 CO2 PPM, otherwise I might get a little crazy with it and really do some damage; like pass out in the tent the day before harvest and then never get to enjoy all my hard work. CO2 can kill you if it is concentrated enough, I know that.
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The whole Co2 thing is perplexing. 1500 is roughly 4X the atmosphere. When they use a little we ad it back immediately. Seems to me like there's a point of diminishing returns. Lot's of conflicting info on this subject.

BTW, really enjoying the banter.

Also about the Cans, you know at 50 years old. the only benefit I have found to getting older is that there are more younger women! oooohhhhh to be grinding on a 40 year old!
 
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berkman858

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budleydoright said:
The whole Co2 thing is perplexing. 1500 is roughly 4X the atmosphere. When they use a little we ad it back immediately. Seems to me like there's a point of diminishing returns. Lot's of conflicting info on this subject.

BTW, really enjoying the banter.

Also about the Cans, you know at 50 years old. the only benefit I have found to getting older is that there are more younger women! oooohhhhh to be grinding on a 40 year old!
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It's all point of view. I am gonna be a dirty old man, I know it.
 
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budleydoright

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It's also perspective. Much to my surprize as hot as I find 20-30 year old babes, I want nothing to do with em. 35-45 is what is ripe to me now.

It's weird.
 
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berkman858

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Yeah, unfortunately my little girl has a problem with her left hip so I have to limit her running and there is a small dog park nearby.
 
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berkman858

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She is a pitbull, but shhhhhh don't tell my apartment complex that, they think she is a Foxhound/Pointer mix. ;-)

I am off to the Hydro store to swap out my CO2 tank, this one lasted 10 days. That's about $1.07 per day to run the CO2. I am sure it will be a little more expensive over the next couple of weeks as the plants use more CO2 but I don't think it will be an issue when I see the monster buds covered in trichomes.
 
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budleydoright

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Berkman, are you the one with the humco rdwc and chiller? If so, keeping your root zone in the mid 60's which I'm sure your already doing will also make your plants tolerate the heat much better. Lettuce bolts and gos to seed once the temps get over 85, but in an dwc, nft type setup with chilled water they do not. It will be interesting to see. I would think having the foliage in 85 with a co2 enriched atmosphere while having their roots in a 65 oxygen enriched environment would make for some nice results.
 
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berkman858

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budleydoright said:
Berkman, are you the one with the humco rdwc and chiller? If so, keeping your root zone in the mid 60's which I'm sure your already doing will also make your plants tolerate the heat much better. Lettuce bolts and gos to seed once the temps get over 85, but in an dwc, nft type setup with chilled water they do not. It will be interesting to see. I would think having the foliage in 85 with a co2 enriched atmosphere while having their roots in a 65 oxygen enriched environment would make for some nice results.
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Yes, I am the one with the HumCo UCDWC and the chiller but I am not running my chiller at that temperature anymore because I am using Tea. The Tea needs to be around 74-76 degrees to keep the microbial environment thriving and that is exactly where I now keep my res. temps. I have no issue with slime or anything like that since I have moved off of H2O2 and onto the Tea.

Until I switched it up I thought exactly like you and was of the mindset that the colder water temps would even things out but now I can't rely on that anymore. I still think I will be OK, but I don't want to be OK, I want to be fucking GREAT so I will keep my eye on things and make adjustments as required.

Again, thanks for the Tea Heisenberg.
 
billcollector99

billcollector99

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That tea works miracles ;)

I had an outdoor RDWC, that had rez temps pretty high during the summer, and the tea kept my roots nice and healthy ;)
 
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