poppinsmokey
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Looking crazy good email! Thanks for stopping by my grow. I learn so much from your journals. Thanks for putting this out there for us to learn from. Peace.
email468 - Big Bud and PPP grow
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email468
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my pleasure - glad you could check it out.
email468
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OK - so i noticed my leaves were yellowing and getting crispy brown spots. Looks just like nute burn but how can that be? My PPM isn't that high (less than a 1000).
So i poked around and the symptoms sounded like (and looked like) a Magnesium (Mg) deficiency. No problem, thought I - Epsom salts to the rescue. I used less than the recommended dosage (recommended is 1 tsp. per gallon of water but i used half that) which shot my PPM up to about 1500 - but i thought well if it gets worse i'll drain and use a lighter hand with the nutes and the Epsom salts.
I then decided to check my meters and gauges. PPM and pH meter were fine. and then i tested the inside thermometer..... what a bummer! it was not working correctly! i quickly replaced it and to my dismay discovered my indoor cab temps were WAY out of hand. Near the light was close to 100 F (the "F" is for fucking degrees!) - the canopy was cooler but still a way too hot 90 F!
I tweaked a few things and added another fan and the temps are now down below 80 F but major damage was done. That's not to say i won't get some decent bud but nowhere near as awesome and large as they could have been. Oh well - another hard won lesson i guess.
So the plan is to change out the res as soon as i have enough RO water and then leave the lights off for 24 straight so i can get on the lights on at night routine to keep things that much cooler in there.
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
at least there appears to be one massive bud that looks completely awesome and healthy so that is something anyway.
######## A MAJOR OOPSIE!!! ##########
###############################
OK - so i noticed my leaves were yellowing and getting crispy brown spots. Looks just like nute burn but how can that be? My PPM isn't that high (less than a 1000).
So i poked around and the symptoms sounded like (and looked like) a Magnesium (Mg) deficiency. No problem, thought I - Epsom salts to the rescue. I used less than the recommended dosage (recommended is 1 tsp. per gallon of water but i used half that) which shot my PPM up to about 1500 - but i thought well if it gets worse i'll drain and use a lighter hand with the nutes and the Epsom salts.
I then decided to check my meters and gauges. PPM and pH meter were fine. and then i tested the inside thermometer..... what a bummer! it was not working correctly! i quickly replaced it and to my dismay discovered my indoor cab temps were WAY out of hand. Near the light was close to 100 F (the "F" is for fucking degrees!) - the canopy was cooler but still a way too hot 90 F!
I tweaked a few things and added another fan and the temps are now down below 80 F but major damage was done. That's not to say i won't get some decent bud but nowhere near as awesome and large as they could have been. Oh well - another hard won lesson i guess.
So the plan is to change out the res as soon as i have enough RO water and then leave the lights off for 24 straight so i can get on the lights on at night routine to keep things that much cooler in there.
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
at least there appears to be one massive bud that looks completely awesome and healthy so that is something anyway.
Enigma
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Some times you can't prevent everything.
Running the big lights at night has always been a rule for me after learning the hard way.. I couldn't find a way to get the temps down in a walk-in closet.. then it hit me while I was out smoking a blunt on the balcony one night, "damn it sure is cold out here."
Running the big lights at night has always been a rule for me after learning the hard way.. I couldn't find a way to get the temps down in a walk-in closet.. then it hit me while I was out smoking a blunt on the balcony one night, "damn it sure is cold out here."
email468
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i'm thinking every little bit helps. I should have known since i battled heat issues last time it warmed up.
luckily i have plenty to keep me happy and was planning on using the bubblebags on most of this crop anyway - which i'll still be able to do.
but so far so good - i'll update with new temps and action items as soon as i'm able.
shamegame
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What's with the 24 hours O' darkness ?
email468
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i screwed up earlier with my temps so i wanted to reverse the 12/12 (lights on during the night and off during the day to help control temps). So in order to flip-flop i had to keep them in the dark for 24 hours.
make sense?
email468
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the mg problem never existed - it was all heat issues. i did hold my hand under the lights as a double-check - including pressing my hand on the glass and reflector and it didn't seem to be putting out that much heat. goes to show how good my judgement of "hot" is
I think they'll be OK - just not what they could have been.
email468
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DAY 47 / FLOWER DAY 24:
Ambient Temperature: 70.1 F
Humidity: 45%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 71.7 F
pH: 6.0
PPM: 1009
Notes:
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DAY 48 / FLOWER DAY 25: DISASTER DAY (https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/64987-email468-big-bud-ppp-grow-5.html#post740760)
Ambient Temperature: 79.8 F
Humidity: 37%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 69.2 F
pH: 5.4
PPM: 1575
Notes: The high PPM is reflecting my adding epsom salts in the mistaken attempt to treat a non-existent Mg deficiency.
Final reservoir (reflected in the next day’s stats) is the following added to 20 Gallons of RO water: 5 TBSP. Flora Micro, 1 TBSP. Flora Grow, 10 TBSP. Flora Bloom, 5 TBSP. Flora Shield
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DAY 49 / FLOWER DAY 26: (PIX)
Ambient Temperature: 71.9 F
Humidity: 42%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 63.8 F
pH: 5.2
PPM: 527
Notes: Added .5 TBSP. pH up
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Note about the pixs... the leaves are being blown by a powerful fan which is why they are sometimes standing straight up (or down).
DAY 47 / FLOWER DAY 24:
Ambient Temperature: 70.1 F
Humidity: 45%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 71.7 F
pH: 6.0
PPM: 1009
Notes:
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DAY 48 / FLOWER DAY 25: DISASTER DAY (https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/64987-email468-big-bud-ppp-grow-5.html#post740760)
Ambient Temperature: 79.8 F
Humidity: 37%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 69.2 F
pH: 5.4
PPM: 1575
Notes: The high PPM is reflecting my adding epsom salts in the mistaken attempt to treat a non-existent Mg deficiency.
Final reservoir (reflected in the next day’s stats) is the following added to 20 Gallons of RO water: 5 TBSP. Flora Micro, 1 TBSP. Flora Grow, 10 TBSP. Flora Bloom, 5 TBSP. Flora Shield
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DAY 49 / FLOWER DAY 26: (PIX)
Ambient Temperature: 71.9 F
Humidity: 42%
Reservoir Details:
Temperature: 63.8 F
pH: 5.2
PPM: 527
Notes: Added .5 TBSP. pH up
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Note about the pixs... the leaves are being blown by a powerful fan which is why they are sometimes standing straight up (or down).
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email468
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thanks but if you look closer they are heat stressed.
not very stinky yet - i expect some trichomes to be forming soon now that i've worked out the heat issues (I hope)!
GrnMan
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Yea, but their not DEAD! Still looken good to me.
email468
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LOL! oh yes - far from dead but i'm sure i'll do something else that jeopardizes them.
We'll know if those gaps between the buds where you see all that stem gets filled in with big stinky buds!
We TaRdED
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lol
yes, i have heard that the buds will be stretchy and awkward looking from heat stress.... they still look like they have plenty of life to them.... hopefully the internodes wont stretch any more and you'll get some nice dank tight plants.....
keep up the good work email, always a pleasure to read your journals!
email468
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it is big bud so the internode stretch did not surprise me - there has to be room for the buds to swell and "fill in" the empty space. it is that lanky little top growth that i don't like.lol
yes, i have heard that the buds will be stretchy and awkward looking from heat stress.... they still look like they have plenty of life to them.... hopefully the internodes wont stretch any more and you'll get some nice dank tight plants.....
keep up the good work email, always a please to read your journals!
Sry tunning in soo late. But hey i'm checking it out now just intime for the grand finals!! Ha skipped the previews looking nice man, Just caught up . You are very detailed I like that, and ur plants are looking fucking sweet! I'll be waiting for updates, hope it continues to go as good as its been. !! Good job!