Failed drug test today for new job!!

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
how do you use them?? and what is that antenna thingy part for??
do you just put the bottle of quick fix in the pouch and open the quick fix and dump it?? like only good for non monitored ua's??
 

JJFOURTWENTY

Well-Known Member
how do you use them?? and what is that antenna thingy part for??
do you just put the bottle of quick fix in the pouch and open the quick fix and dump it?? like only good for non monitored ua's??
Yep, this is for pre-employment drug screens. Nobody watches your junk during those. The antenna thingys are just that - these neoprene straps are from B&H audio/video. They're made to hold microphone transmitters for stage perfomers and the like. I'm thinking its pouch will be perfect to hold a bottle of Quick Fix and heating pad.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Yep, this is for pre-employment drug screens. Nobody watches your junk during those. The antenna thingys are just that - these neoprene straps are from B&H audio/video. They're made to hold microphone transmitters for stage perfomers and the like. I'm thinking its pouch will be perfect to hold a bottle of Quick Fix and heating pad.
ahh, gotcha.. i was thinking it was a product made solely to use with quick fix, lol.. looks like it would work great though..
the whizzinator does cost a pretty penny, but my ua's are monitored, so i can't use something like what you posted, but it looks great for pre-employment ua's for sure.. :)
 

mindphuk

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I'm sure there were a few different factors together that played into it. What you'd mentioned would have to be the primary one, most likely the cutoff level involved - 15 ng/ml, 20 ng/ml, 50 ng/ml, 100 ng/ml. But I take a piss test at the facility an hour before and another one for a different company two days prior and pass them both, yet they don't take any of that into consideration? From an outsider's perspective it would seem that there's definitely some merit as to questioning the legitimacy of the third test's outcome.
And another thing, I'm 5'11'', 160 lbs, have a low BMI, go for an hour walk everyday (sometimes twice), and not to sound vain, look ideally healthy in every way, shape, and form. Given all of the aforementioned and the fact that the last time I smoked was 18 days prior to the test (when my 1st harvest of Serious AK ran out)... it seems that all of the scientific data available on these tests suggest my positive result falls under the "extremely rare" category, and I would have to think so as well.

So yeah in case anyone out there is wondering, Serious Seed's AK-47 is apparently that dank!
Did they tell you for sure it was cannabis metabolites? You can fail a drug test for many reasons, not to mention false positive lab errors. People are suing and winning depending on the particular laws on drug testing in your state. Even job candidates have won lawsuits against potential employers, as you pointed out, you had an implied contract already, they gave you forms to fill out that are only given to employees.

I would call back and ask to speak to the person in charge of this decision. Explain that it cannot possible be valid that it must be a false positive because you haven't taken ANY drugs. Ask if it was a metabolite of opiates because you did some research and found that even poppy seeds will cause a false positive. Ask if a confirmatory test was run or not. Politely tell him that you are formally requesting a retest because 'I know that I am clean, I just need the opportunity to prove to you that I am clean and will make for a good employee' or whatever bullshit works for you. :)
 

Doer

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Yeah, totally agree with that. Never surrender, never admit. Gotta be false. And isn't there a way to get good pee out of oneself? My truck driver friend got a job-site dirt hauler job, and they would piss test with only a very short notice. Park, get down, go in, piss test. He keep a liter of water and goldenseal powder to shake up in it. <yuck> He'd down that and get a clean test.

Also, I flipped through one of those life in prison, shows. Dude had already admitted to the camera crew he got stoned every day. So, sure enough, when the crew found out he was being observed-tested, they went into the line with him. He said he had smoked the day before and will soon "after this bs." He told them he had drank 5-6 cups of water, but he looked like a fibber. IAC, he passed. I was sure he would not.

What's that horse diuretic? Lasic? It also works, I've heard.

As was mentioned, the test can't see the THC in you fat cells but only the metabolites and only at a detectable concentration. Maybe goldenseal, alters the -bolites to something not detectable?
 

JJFOURTWENTY

Well-Known Member
Yeah, totally agree with that. Never surrender, never admit. Gotta be false.
That's exactly what I did in my case. The "lab" called me up a few days after the test and asked me "so when was the last time you'd smoked pot?" and I immediately fired back that I had never used Marijuana before, I'm shocked at the allegation, I demand a new test, etc... Never admitted to a thing. They told me I could opt to have the same failed sample retested. WTF is that?!? I'd finally managed to get Kelly Services (yeah, this job was all going THROUGH them. Really at no point did I ever know if this job was direct to hire, temp to hire, really who in the hell I was dealing with??) to let me take another drug test. Went to two different places and got two clean test results, which I then presented to Kelly Services on the following Monday morning just as they had asked me to do, only to end up getting shot down from them anyways. Wasted $100 out of my own pocket taking extra drug tests not to mention a whole lot of my time having to drive all around the damn city.
So yeah - I'm definitely not going to be going though that kind of bullshit again, and fuck having to always stay clean for this sort of obtrusive fucked up rebublican nonsense. I've found out the hard way these tests can detect Marijuana in your system up to twenty five days after last use, and again I'm 5'11'', 160 lbs, excersize daily, etc... so bottom line is that drug tests nowadays have become pretty fucking accurate and are nothing to simply scoff at. The lower end cutoff limit on UA's are shockingly low levels, like 15-20 nl/ml - in other words we're talking trace amounts of THC! In fact my second test needed further testing but still passed, and on the third the little blue line was barely showing but was ultimately passed as well.

Not going to find myself NOT smoking pot, especially given the fact that growing it is my hobby.

So going the synthetic urine route it will be. Some good news to report is the equipment for my little countermeasure experiment came in the mail yesterday and the neoprene straps fit a 3oz bottle of Quick Fix and heating pad PERFECTLY - like a glove perfectly! Got myself a waist and thigh strap, but still am probably going to exchange them for or purchase a couple of ankle straps now that I've seen the measurements of everything first hand. The waist strap would still be great for say, hiding a microcassete tape recorder in to potentially sue or blackmail your employer with. :twisted:
 

dvs1038

Well-Known Member
I was wonderin bout sumptin if u live somewhere where u can get a MMJ scrip and u have a UA for a job, can they still deny u the job based on a failed drug test even if u bring in ur license and w/e other necessary paperwork?
 

JJFOURTWENTY

Well-Known Member
I was wonderin bout sumptin if u live somewhere where u can get a MMJ scrip and u have a UA for a job, can they still deny u the job based on a failed drug test even if u bring in ur license and w/e other necessary paperwork?
Yes. The company can choose to recognize the Federal law instead.
 

DROPZILLA

Well-Known Member
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JJ

i was always told good things come to those who wait..
be patient and stay positive brother​
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
Oh well, none of this will stop me though from continuing on with my favorite hobby!
It was at this very moment, that I completely stopped feeling sorry for you. Your fucking hobby just cost you a good job because you knew what the score prior to all this.


As fucked up as the laws are, this is 100% your fault dude.
 

Jack Norton

New Member
And a really good job at that! Test was a SAHMSA 5-Panel urine given by LabCorp. The last time I had smoked any marijuana at all was 18 days prior to taking the test. And here's the thing - I had two take a separate piss tests just TWO DAYS prior via U.S. HealthWorks, WHICH I HAD PASSED, for another job that called back the same day as these guys and whom I had to turn down for!!

and to top it all off... TODAY IS MY FUCKING BIRTHDAY!!!

The company of course called me back and said they'd have to rescind the job offer, I contested that I peed in a cup, ON THEIR OWN FUCKIN JOBSITE during the physical they had given me just an hour before going to take the LabCorp test! How the fuck does that make any sense??!!? I pass two out of three drug tests in three days and they take the last one as legit??
Of course I told them I'd LOVE to take another piss test IMMEDIATELY. The clown told me that the decision is not up to him and the guy who can make it is out of the office (yeah right - bullshit pussy!). We definitely had ourselves a little exchange on the phone there and I know he made an ass of himself in his cubicle, so that at least is a plus. But damn... turned down another good job for this one, spent four days going through a battery of bullshit tests, buying the required $125 steel toe boots, and then to be shot down in the end - on my birthday no less??!? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS THAT I'M FUCKING PISSED!!!!!!!!


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just lost a job today because my fake pee would not register on the temp strip of the sample cup. The fake pee bottle said exactly 100 degrees and it certainly felt like body temp. The twat who took it from me didn't even look at it, she just said it was void because of temperature and threw it down the drain.
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
And a really good job at that! Test was a SAHMSA 5-Panel urine given by LabCorp. The last time I had smoked any marijuana at all was 18 days prior to taking the test. And here's the thing - I had two take a separate piss tests just TWO DAYS prior via U.S. HealthWorks, WHICH I HAD PASSED, for another job that called back the same day as these guys and whom I had to turn down for!!

and to top it all off... TODAY IS MY FUCKING BIRTHDAY!!!

The company of course called me back and said they'd have to rescind the job offer, I contested that I peed in a cup, ON THEIR OWN FUCKIN JOBSITE during the physical they had given me just an hour before going to take the LabCorp test! How the fuck does that make any sense??!!? I pass two out of three drug tests in three days and they take the last one as legit??
Of course I told them I'd LOVE to take another piss test IMMEDIATELY. The clown told me that the decision is not up to him and the guy who can make it is out of the office (yeah right - bullshit pussy!). We definitely had ourselves a little exchange on the phone there and I know he made an ass of himself in his cubicle, so that at least is a plus. But damn... turned down another good job for this one, spent four days going through a battery of bullshit tests, buying the required $125 steel toe boots, and then to be shot down in the end - on my birthday no less??!? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS THAT I'M FUCKING PISSED!!!!!!!!


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's what happens when you don't study for your drug tests.
 

ULEN

Well-Known Member
I'm happy my job didn't require me to take a piss test. They're actually hiring in Sactown.
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
I was wonderin bout sumptin if u live somewhere where u can get a MMJ scrip and u have a UA for a job, can they still deny u the job based on a failed drug test even if u bring in ur license and w/e other necessary paperwork?
Yes, they can. In fact, they are required to for some jobs. Healthcare worker, truck or bus driver, train operator, etc.
 

SSHZ

Well-Known Member
That's exactly what I did in my case. The "lab" called me up a few days after the test and asked me "so when was the last time you'd smoked pot?" and I immediately fired back that I had never used Marijuana before, I'm shocked at the allegation, I demand a new test, etc... Never admitted to a thing. They told me I could opt to have the same failed sample retested. WTF is that?!? I'd finally managed to get Kelly Services (yeah, this job was all going THROUGH them. Really at no point did I ever know if this job was direct to hire, temp to hire, really who in the hell I was dealing with??) to let me take another drug test. Went to two different places and got two clean test results, which I then presented to Kelly Services on the following Monday morning just as they had asked me to do, only to end up getting shot down from them anyways. Wasted $100 out of my own pocket taking extra drug tests not to mention a whole lot of my time having to drive all around the damn city.
So yeah - I'm definitely not going to be going though that kind of bullshit again, and fuck having to always stay clean for this sort of obtrusive fucked up rebublican nonsense. I've found out the hard way these tests can detect Marijuana in your system up to twenty five days after last use, and again I'm 5'11'', 160 lbs, excersize daily, etc... so bottom line is that drug tests nowadays have become pretty fucking accurate and are nothing to simply scoff at. The lower end cutoff limit on UA's are shockingly low levels, like 15-20 nl/ml - in other words we're talking trace amounts of THC! In fact my second test needed further testing but still passed, and on the third the little blue line was barely showing but was ultimately passed as well.

Not going to find myself NOT smoking pot, especially given the fact that growing it is my hobby.

So going the synthetic urine route it will be. Some good news to report is the equipment for my little countermeasure experiment came in the mail yesterday and the neoprene straps fit a 3oz bottle of Quick Fix and heating pad PERFECTLY - like a glove perfectly! Got myself a waist and thigh strap, but still am probably going to exchange them for or purchase a couple of ankle straps now that I've seen the measurements of everything first hand. The waist strap would still be great for say, hiding a microcassete tape recorder in to potentially sue or blackmail your employer with. :twisted:

I've seen people stop smoking for 40 days and still fail a test........
 

WeedFreak78

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I'm going to try outright refusing to take piss tests when i start looking for a job and see what happens. I've never hard of anyone even trying to refuse..As long as i can get a direct hire interview, i think i can argue the fact that what i do on my time is my business..and if they want to buy instant read THC test strips I'd be more than happy to submit to on the job tests to prove I'm not under the influence at work. Lol..I just don't care anymore...
 

Jack Norton

New Member
I'm going to try outright refusing to take piss tests when i start looking for a job and see what happens. I've never hard of anyone even trying to refuse..As long as i can get a direct hire interview, i think i can argue the fact that what i do on my time is my business..and if they want to buy instant read THC test strips I'd be more than happy to submit to on the job tests to prove I'm not under the influence at work. Lol..I just don't care anymore...
I wish you the best of luck. I just so happen to have a job right now that didn't piss test. I drive my own vehicle for the job and receive mileage, so they don't give a shit what I do outside of work. The job I want involves driving a company vehicle and these companies have allowed themselves to be bullied into giving UA's by lawyers and insurance companies. What has happend to this country is a crying shame. I remember when it was an interview and a start date for almost all jobs. No pissing into a cup or submitting to a lot of crap. I fuckin' hate it, but I need this new job to get experience so I can then go out on my own in a year and work or myself.
 

WeedFreak78

Well-Known Member
I've mostly worked in manufacturing fields. I know that alot of the drug testing in that industry wasn't for safety reasons, it was a mandate that anyone working on a Federally contracted job had to be drug tested..thanks "War on Drugs". This is where the majority of work place drug testing comes from. Most places adopted drug tests just to comply with federal contract standards..seeing how the military is responsible for something like 80% of manufacturing in this country. So again war and the military F it up for the rest of us...THANKS!
 
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