trayvan martin

[NoDrama]

no not at all people are perfectly capable of being racist in a 100% white community it takes living in a racially diverse community to understand what it is to NOT BE RACIST

and it seems to me you have a bit of trouble working out who is "white" or "hispanic"

I have no problem working out who is white or who is Hispanic, If you are Hispanic and your skin is light colored, you are white.

 

[Red1966]

Do you have anything to support the assertion that Martin initially attacked Zimmerman? Or you just presuming?

I'm sorry, where did I say Martin attacked Zimmerman? I was only pointing out you all are prejudiced. You have convicted Zimmerman based not on facts or evidence, but on "feelings" that, quit frankly, appear to be racism.

 

[Harrekin]

care to show proof of your 45-50% black community there? you havent backed it up yet i can only go on the facts available to me

as i just said to nodrama it takes living in a racially diverse culture to know what it really means to not be racist

That is such total bullshit.

So the "default" setting for humans is to be racist?

You are a complete tool if you think like that.

At this stage you're gonna call me racist regardless, so I don't care.

At this point, since you're making the assertion Im racist, please quote any post Iv made since Iv joined that could be considered racist, the onus of proof is on you, biatch.

If you find one I'll give you TWO gold (or is the pc term "coloured"?) stars as a special bonus.

 

[ginjawarrior]

^^^possessions He never claimed to be protecting his possessions, only his life. "child"? 6ft +, 17+? You've fallen prey to the disinformation being published showing photos of Martin when he was much younger.

his height is irrelevant 17 is still very much a kid

He was taller than Zimmerman, 17 is not still very much a kid. He was caught with multiple pieces of stolen jewelry in school. "Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described silver wedding bands and earrings with diamonds. Trayvon was asked if the jewelry belonged to his family or a girlfriend. “Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded, according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend. Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy" Why is there such an effort to portray Martin is an eight year old choirboy? First you guys try to portray Zimmerman as a racist, that didn't work. Is this "Plan B"?

erm 17 is not an adult i.e. a kid

and which one of us here is profiling? and did zimmerman have any of this "evidence" when he profile this kid?

Martin's father, upon hearing the 911 tape, said that was NOT his son crying for help. Only after conferring with the attorney did he claim it was his son. The neighborhood had repeated break-ins recently. Martin's backpack contained stolen jewelry and burglary tools. He's starting to sound not so much an "innocent child" anymore, is he?

Are you accusing me of profiling? I've not presumed anyone guilty, while you have. Martin was behaving like he was casing the area, and, surprise, it turns out he probably is theif. You accuse Zimmerman of profiling this "kid", but you have NO knowledge of his thoughts. Just the say so of Martin's parent's attorney, an obviously biased participant with a financial stake.

no profiling here officer honest...


again i'll ask did zimmerman have any of this "evidence" when he profile this kid?

and as trayvon was never convicted of anything is it cool beans to fall back on zimmermans violent past not only towards women but police officers too?

 

[Harrekin]

Kinda ironic also that the guy who's country is virtually impossible to emigrate to is calling the guy who's country basically has an open border a racist.

Lollerskates.

EDIT: Fuck I'm getting trolled and I didn't even realise it. Good show Gingawarrior, good show.

I took the bait hook, line and sinker.

 

[Red1966]

I have no problem working out who is white or who is Hispanic, If you are Hispanic and your skin is light colored, you are white.

His·pan·ic (h-spnk) adj. 1. Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America. 2. Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture. n. 1. A Spanish-speaking person. 2. A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.

 

[Harrekin]

I'm sorry, where did I say Martin attacked Zimmerman? I was only pointing out you all are prejudiced. You have convicted Zimmerman based not on facts or evidence, but on "feelings" that, quit frankly, appear to be racism.

I convicted him based on the fact he shot a kid.

You base your findings on hearsay from when he was supposedly caught being stupid and childlike (which as a child is fairly standard).

The difference between you and I is at least I admit I don't know what happened except an unarmed kid was shot

 

[NoDrama]

His·pan·ic (h-spnk) adj. 1. Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America. 2. Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture. n. 1. A Spanish-speaking person. 2. A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.

I don't use official tomes to describe what a white person is, I use the MSM handbook.

 

[ginjawarrior]

That is such total bullshit.

So the "default" setting for humans is to be racist?

You are a complete tool if you think like that.

At this stage you're gonna call me racist regardless, so I don't care.

At this point, since you're making the assertion Im racist, please quote any post Iv made since Iv joined that could be considered racist, the onus of proof is on you, biatch.

If you find one I'll give you TWO gold (or is the pc term "coloured"?) stars as a special bonus.

care to show proof that northern dublin has got 45-50% blacks and i will happily recant any claim of racism i have lain upon you

Kinda ironic also that the guy who's country is virtually impossible to emigrate to is calling the guy who's country basically has an open border a racist.

Lollerskates.

EDIT: Fuck I'm getting trolled and I didn't even realise it. Good show Gingawarrior, good show.

I took the bait hook, line and sinker.

im from uk as we're both from europe there is an open border between us...

this wasnt a troll i genuinely would like to see the figure for northern dublins demographics

 

[Harrekin]

care to show proof that northern dublin has got 45-50% blacks and i will happily recant any claim of racism i have lain upon you



im from uk as we're both from europe there is an open border between us...

this wasnt a troll i genuinely would like to see the figure for northern dublins demographics

I'll have a look, I hadn't read it as a statistic, I heard it on the radio, which is generally a fairly reliable source of information over here, we're somewhat lacking in the Fox News.

And dude if you're from the UK you know Irish people arnt racist (well we used to dislike you lot, but we're over it now )

 

[ginjawarrior]

I'll have a look, I hadn't read it as a statistic, I heard it on the radio, which is generally a fairly reliable source of information over here, we're somewhat lacking in the Fox News.

And dude if you're from the UK you know Irish people arnt racist (well we used to dislike you lot, but we're over it now )

its far from me to say that racism does/doesn't exist anywhere in ireland.
BUT i do know that its not racially diverse (my original point) it wasnt till your 45-50% claim that any accusation came from me

 

[Red1966]

no profiling here officer honest... again i'll ask did zimmerman have any of this "evidence" when he profile this kid? and as trayvon was never convicted of anything is it cool beans to fall back on zimmermans violent past not only towards women but police officers too?

no profiling here officer honest...

repeatedly stating something doesn't increase it's validity.

did zimmerman have any of this "evidence" when he profile this kid?

Is that supposed to be a question, cause it appears an underhanded attempt to repeat the "Zimmerman is a racist" accusation. What bearing does possession of "any of this "evidence"" have? Of course he didn't have it. He wasn't in possession of his school record, birth certificate or any other document you want to ask about, either.

and as trayvon was never convicted of anything is it cool beans to fall back on zimmermans violent past not only towards women but police officers too?

Martin may still have been charged in due course, the stolen property's owners had not as yet been found. Neither his girlfriend, family, or other "friend" have asked for it's return. Sure, Martin's record can be considered. Never heard any claims of violence towards women. "Resisting arrest" without any other charges usually means the cop is trying to legitimized roughing up a citizen. Odd how you phrase it, makes you sound biased. Imagine that!

 

[Harrekin]

its far from me to say that racism does/doesn't exist anywhere in ireland.
BUT i do know that its not racially diverse (my original point) it wasnt till your 45-50% claim that any accusation came from me

So because my country is less racially diverse and because I may have heard an inaccurate statistic I'm a racist?

If I made a negative comment regarding the statistic I'd be racist, whereas infact I'm quite proud race isn't made a big issue here and that generally speaking people are "tolerant" (hate that term) of each other.

 

[Red1966]

I convicted him based on the fact he shot a kid. You base your findings on hearsay from when he was supposedly caught being stupid and childlike (which as a child is fairly standard). The difference between you and I is at least I admit I don't know what happened except an unarmed kid was shot

Convicted him of what? Murder? Manslaughter? Self defense? I never said I knew what actually happened that night. You're claiming you do, you're claiming you knew Zimmerman's very thought process. Do try to pretend you're not biased, it's so amusing!

 

[ginjawarrior]

So because my country is less racially diverse and because I may have heard an inaccurate statistic I'm a racist?

If I made a negative comment regarding the statistic I'd be racist, whereas infact I'm quite proud race isn't made a big issue here and that generally speaking people are "tolerant" (hate that term) of each other.

if your living in a communtity that has a possible 1.1% black population yet you perceive a 50% population of blacks then yeah your either racist and seeing "teh blacks" coming out of the woodwork or schizophrenic

 

[ginjawarrior]

repeatedly stating something doesn't increase it's validity. Is that supposed to be a question, cause it appears an underhanded attempt to repeat the "Zimmerman is a racist" accusation. What bearing does possession of "any of this "evidence"" have? Of course he didn't have it. He wasn't in possession of his school record, birth certificate or any other document you want to ask about, either. Martin may still have been charged in due course, the stolen property's owners had not as yet been found. Neither his girlfriend, family, or other "friend" have asked for it's return. Sure, Martin's record can be considered. Never heard any claims of violence towards women. "Resisting arrest" without any other charges usually means the cop is trying to legitimized roughing up a citizen. Odd how you phrase it, makes you sound biased. Imagine that!

lol i see your not taking this seriously

 

[Red1966]

if your living in a communtity that has a possible 1.1% black population yet you perceive a 50% population of blacks then yeah your either racist and seeing "teh blacks" coming out of the woodwork or schizophrenic

He does have a good point. Your attitude affects your perception. Two hundred thousand people saw the space shuttle fly over us. My neighbor saw an "flying saucer".

 

[budleydoright]

^^^possessions He never claimed to be protecting his possessions, only his life. "child"? 6ft +, 17+? You've fallen prey to the disinformation being published showing photos of Martin when he was much younger.

I'm speaking from the perspective of a homeowner in a gated community. I would rather have thieves walking the street than a gun toating "Law Abidibing Citizen" like Zimmerman. So I guess he wanders the neighboerhood with a gun in the event he neds to protect his life? Should paranoid people be doing this?

And BTW the young photos of Trayvon were the photos that were at his service, you know the special times a parent may want to remember of their baby when they bury him. The suggestion that they were used to further their case is insulting and dehumanizing to the victim.

I know how large he was and I know I wouldn't have shot him if he was on top of me. Of course I wouldn't have a fucking gun in my pants so I would have been more inclined to use my brain had I been in a similar situation. I would be more inclined to do what a true concerned citizen would have done, let the police do their job. If zimmerman was truley a concerned citizen he would have considered the consequences before he started patrolling his neighborhood with a gun. Maybe learned how to use it and secure it, maybe a little self defense. Oh that's right you don' need that now that we can Stnd our Ground or Make our Day.

How fucked up is that?

I would like to hear 1 good gun story for a change. All you hear about are innoent children being shot because of insecure people clinging to weapons without undestanding the responsibilities that come with them.

I sure as fuck won't spend any money in a state like FL or AZ. They seem to becoming more and more crazy, full or hate and desperate t drag us back into the dark ages.

 

[Harrekin]

Convicted him of what? Murder? Manslaughter? Self defense? I never said I knew what actually happened that night. You're claiming you do, you're claiming you knew Zimmerman's very thought process. Do try to pretend you're not biased, it's so amusing!

Lol, all I said was he shot a kid and that I don't think anyone should be shot over something so trivial.

I also said I think Zimmerman would get away with it.

I havnt taken a side, just regardless it's a bit sad an innocent kid is dead and the shooter will likely walk. He may have stolen shit and sold a bit of weed, but the death penalty for that?

 

[Red1966]

lol i see your not taking this seriously

I just find it disturbing that people can claim to be unbiased when they are obviously so. I guess it's possible to be bigot and not even know it.