flowamasta
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Green Green you insane machine! pumpin those healthy ass plants out 
shweeeeeeet!
gotta love it
shweeeeeeet!gotta love it
F.M.I.L.Y's Grow
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billcollector99
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Upcanned the HC
F.M.I.L.Y
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Thanks flow, lets hope they stay healthy and bud just as nice. Never grew these Skunky Monkeys before but they are really nice.Green Green you insane machine! pumpin those healthy ass plants out
gotta love it
No bro not yet, i am trying to get this shit done outside first. Had a burning fever last night and this morning. I know if I go out there today and try to work on it I will only get sicker. I am resting today and hopefully tomorrow I can get this done.
mr west
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hope u feel better soon mate, fevers suck balls.
berkman858
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Yeah, feel better FM. That shit sucks.
bassman999
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Damn fm the wife just went through that over the weekend, and I did 2 wks ago as well. WQeird summertime flus, esp since I had the shot! I will never gt the flu shot again.
Fell better bro!
Fell better bro!
billcollector99
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No I was saying that I upcanned mine into the 2 gal dirtpot you gave me
berkman858
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Well, be more specific next time. You are confusing everyone!
F.M.I.L.Y
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So I started to feel better and decide to finish up "The Clandestine Grow Area" I went out there and got the Sun Screen material up and finished. As soon as I finished I felt like I got hit by a truck again, started to sweat and get the chills. Fuck me! Now the only thing I am worried about is that will there be enough sun getting in the Clandestine Grow Area? What I am thrilled about is that you cant really see through that stuff unless you are Superman or have vision like a Fighter Pilot....So what do you all think, you think it will work or there is too much shade in there for the plants. In the pics taken it was about 4:45 pm and the sun is already on the west side of my house.
I still have to put up the screen inside but I need more wood cut. Once I have two more pieces cut I can finish off the screen. Its just going to be a bitch putting it in by myself.
My Clandestine Grow Area
I still have to put up the screen inside but I need more wood cut. Once I have two more pieces cut I can finish off the screen. Its just going to be a bitch putting it in by myself.
My Clandestine Grow Area
berkman858
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Ouch, double edged sword there. Does the shading only occur in the early and late parts of the day or does it get shaded at like 9am and 3pm?
It does look good though! Especially for a DIY tard such as yourself.
It does look good though! Especially for a DIY tard such as yourself.
flowamasta
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I think that shading is fine, a little dark, but here's the thing, i combatted a similar problem a while back, i just tried to keep the plants up high as possible so they could gain as much sun as possible. on a few milk crates here and there, put heaps of other stuff in there to help hide things. depending on how high it is and how much you are trying to hide them i guess, if this is going to be ongoing, try to keep them up top, and gradually lower them, so that only the tops will get most of the sun, you could do some extra lollypopping, or leave them or whatever! totally up to you, i know i'd have some fun with that setup! looking good F.M
geez, you could scrog the thing, and keep it all level LOL
geez, you could scrog the thing, and keep it all level LOL
bassman999
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Fm I see the Hotspot thing out there lol. My shed has 4 tall walls and they grow great inside still. I bet they would be bigger without them though.
berkman858
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Lollipopping sounds like a good idea in this situation.
P.S. - I like that you are using your newly acquired vocabulary word today.
P.S. - I like that you are using your newly acquired vocabulary word today.
(Random thoughts on "stealth" and size with that rig ... plus a note about staples ... I realize you have a plan and all that. Just tossing out some thoughts to flush out some of it maybe.)
You want to control size. Reduction of sunlight with I'm guessing a 60% or so rated shade cloth is not bad at all but it will not make that much of a dent overall. Just force the LST and do some trimming to keep the height under control. Even in those size pots you're going to be surprised on overall size mate. Between the extra raw spectrum alone and the lack of cloudy days they'll not be suffering. Major bonus on heat reduction should make up for it big time.
Problem you have there is heat and intense sun. Much more so than most deal with. Even in damp/dark climates a smart pot running as small as 20 gallon can push over 10 feet. Not as much spread but tall left untrained. Never count on well fed/watered plants with minimal environmental stress to lean towards small. Even in "small" pots.
The shade should help a lot. Spend enough time there and you'll find most people dont stand anywhere but shade - even in the winter (it becomes habit). Also look at local greenhouse setups that have canopy and other sun blocking obstructions in that area to see how well this helps (basically look at plant health on edges vs interior of shade areas.)
Air under the pots is not bad, but in strong arid conditions can be murder. At some point get them off the gravel (heat-sink and dry air flow) and directly on whatever the substrate is under that stuff. The roots going through will help with watering control and all that rot. Also as the plants gain more bulk you risk slowly tearing up those pots on that stuff (learned that the hard way, and its why I ensure to run 4 strap basket strapping to lift them now ...)
Even sheltered in that yard wind is not your friend (wind happens, monsoon storms can be a pain). Consider using lathe or similar to help reinforce that cloth where you're attaching it. I know its strong struff usually but staples alone are never a good idea. Especially if you want to modify it later on. Framed panel sections would have been my suggestion to allow for working on the plants from the sides ... also allows for easier repair should an accident occur (I'm not as sure of foot any more so I plan on things like that ...)
Argh had something else in mind ...
Ah, stealth aspect: Yer "legal-ish" however people get up in arms pretty easily. Strongly suggest investing in some beautification plantings that will help mask the project some. Not to hide, just to make someone flip a coin. People see a garden and not a Ca$h Cropping operation and tend to mellow out. Strange effect that basic beauty can have. Planters or even more smart pots with some fast lush growth etc.
*shrug* Just my take on what helps with a little Hippy 2.0 psychobabble. Idea isn't masking in this case. Just mucking with people's heads about what they think they see. It's a strange bait and switch but it does work. Gardeners have a stereo-type in most people's heads: the nice lady with the big hat who always smiles ... or the proud lawn and hedges manly style ... or the mousy English grounds-keeper.
Same goes for keeping it neat no matter what. You know how that works. The trashed house and yard draws critical eyes. The well kept and overly organized are just background noise.
Feel better mate. Summertime flu can really linger.
You want to control size. Reduction of sunlight with I'm guessing a 60% or so rated shade cloth is not bad at all but it will not make that much of a dent overall. Just force the LST and do some trimming to keep the height under control. Even in those size pots you're going to be surprised on overall size mate. Between the extra raw spectrum alone and the lack of cloudy days they'll not be suffering. Major bonus on heat reduction should make up for it big time.
Problem you have there is heat and intense sun. Much more so than most deal with. Even in damp/dark climates a smart pot running as small as 20 gallon can push over 10 feet. Not as much spread but tall left untrained. Never count on well fed/watered plants with minimal environmental stress to lean towards small. Even in "small" pots.
The shade should help a lot. Spend enough time there and you'll find most people dont stand anywhere but shade - even in the winter (it becomes habit). Also look at local greenhouse setups that have canopy and other sun blocking obstructions in that area to see how well this helps (basically look at plant health on edges vs interior of shade areas.)
Air under the pots is not bad, but in strong arid conditions can be murder. At some point get them off the gravel (heat-sink and dry air flow) and directly on whatever the substrate is under that stuff. The roots going through will help with watering control and all that rot. Also as the plants gain more bulk you risk slowly tearing up those pots on that stuff (learned that the hard way, and its why I ensure to run 4 strap basket strapping to lift them now ...)
Even sheltered in that yard wind is not your friend (wind happens, monsoon storms can be a pain). Consider using lathe or similar to help reinforce that cloth where you're attaching it. I know its strong struff usually but staples alone are never a good idea. Especially if you want to modify it later on. Framed panel sections would have been my suggestion to allow for working on the plants from the sides ... also allows for easier repair should an accident occur (I'm not as sure of foot any more so I plan on things like that ...)
Argh had something else in mind ...
Ah, stealth aspect: Yer "legal-ish" however people get up in arms pretty easily. Strongly suggest investing in some beautification plantings that will help mask the project some. Not to hide, just to make someone flip a coin. People see a garden and not a Ca$h Cropping operation and tend to mellow out. Strange effect that basic beauty can have. Planters or even more smart pots with some fast lush growth etc.
*shrug* Just my take on what helps with a little Hippy 2.0 psychobabble. Idea isn't masking in this case. Just mucking with people's heads about what they think they see. It's a strange bait and switch but it does work. Gardeners have a stereo-type in most people's heads: the nice lady with the big hat who always smiles ... or the proud lawn and hedges manly style ... or the mousy English grounds-keeper.
Same goes for keeping it neat no matter what. You know how that works. The trashed house and yard draws critical eyes. The well kept and overly organized are just background noise.
Feel better mate. Summertime flu can really linger.
F.M.I.L.Y
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Up canned one of my Skunky Monkeys which was in a 1 gallon dirt pot and is now in a 2 gallon dirt pot. That will be just fine for her to finish in. I also up canned my PLP into a 2 gallon dirt pot too.
Skunky Monkey
Well here it is finished finally. I hope this works and I am sure the shaded area wont be a problem at all. What I need to come up with now for later down the line is some sort of drip feed system. I am very pleased that I did this all by my self with no help. Well supchaka did help me cut some 2 x 4s.
@psari, thank you for the valuable info, I appreciate it!!!! I will take in account all you mentioned..
Peace
FM
Skunky Monkey
Well here it is finished finally. I hope this works and I am sure the shaded area wont be a problem at all. What I need to come up with now for later down the line is some sort of drip feed system. I am very pleased that I did this all by my self with no help. Well supchaka did help me cut some 2 x 4s.
@psari, thank you for the valuable info, I appreciate it!!!! I will take in account all you mentioned..
Peace
FM
PakaloloHui
Active Member
Nice and simple yet efficient. Great job, looking good!
bassman999
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Outdoor scrog FTW!!
berkman858
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I am glad that's a good sign cuz my friend that's growing in those type of pots is seeing the same thing. That's air pruning right???
billcollector99
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eventually yeah, those tips will die off due to exposure, and the root inside the pot will send out side branches. Like tributaries on a river.
Also Psari.
Very well said on your detailed post.
We have plans to get a garden going in the backyard there. Looking for stuff that grows well in his climate, as far as veggies and what not.
I know from personal experience that the front has some amazing Rose bushes that look to have at one time recieved good care.
What final size smart pot would you recommend for the big girl under the scrog?
Do you think 7 gallons will be enough to finish her in?
Also Psari.
Very well said on your detailed post.
We have plans to get a garden going in the backyard there. Looking for stuff that grows well in his climate, as far as veggies and what not.
I know from personal experience that the front has some amazing Rose bushes that look to have at one time recieved good care.
What final size smart pot would you recommend for the big girl under the scrog?
Do you think 7 gallons will be enough to finish her in?