trayvan martin

[budleydoright]

Were you aware that detectives do not have the authority to press charges and only the DA does? The DA told the Detective that they were not going to charge him because they had zero evidence of a crime. You realize a crime has to happen for charges to stick right?

Exactly where it should have come down from..(not enough eveidence/facts to prosecute)

One of the big problems with the case from the get go and where alot of the outrage came from is there was very little investigation done. They took zimms word on everything and treated Martin like he got what he deserved. they did conduct an investigation after much public outrage and proceeded to charge Zimmerman.

Personally, I think when you go out of your house looking around the neighborhood packing a gun, then your pretty much looking for trouble aren't you?

 

[desert dude]

One of the big problems with the case from the get go and where alot of the outrage came from is there was very little investigation done. They took zimms word on everything and treated Martin like he got what he deserved. they did conduct an investigation after much public outrage and proceeded to charge Zimmerman.

Personally, I think when you go out of your house looking around the neighborhood packing a gun, then your pretty much looking for trouble aren't you?

Uh, no. I think armed people pretty much go out of their way to avoid trouble.

I don't buy the "very little investigative work done" line. It looks to me like SPD did a pretty good job at investigating this incident.

 

[UncleBuck]

Uh, no. I think armed people pretty much go out of their way to avoid trouble.

not in zimmerman's case.

 

[UncleBuck]

One of the big problems with the case from the get go and where alot of the outrage came from is there was very little investigation done. They took zimms word on everything and treated Martin like he got what he deserved.

pretty much nailed it right there.

 

[budleydoright]

Were you aware that detectives do not have the authority to press charges and only the DA does? The DA told the Detective that they were not going to charge him because they had zero evidence of a crime. You realize a crime has to happen for charges to stick right?

Exactly where it should have come down from..(not enough eveidence/facts to prosecute)

Uh, no. I think armed people pretty much go out of their way to avoid trouble.

I don't buy the "very little investigative work done" line. It looks to me like SPD did a pretty good job at investigating this incident.

After the investigation was done, they arrested Zimmerman. That is a fact. N

Now to belive your senario, we would have to believe the SPD has caved to pressure from the progressives, the DA is filling bogus charges against an innocent man and there's a conspiracy amongst all of the new agencies except Fox news. Sounds suspiciously familiar, like right wing drivel.

Senior, the facts tend to have a liberal bias.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Man you stupids cunts! this isnt a right/left thing! Grow the fuck up sheep.
Get your head out of the false left/right paradigm, and out of your ass while your at it.

 

[UncleBuck]

Man you stupids cunts! this isnt a right/left thing! Grow the fuck up sheep.
Get your head out of the false left/right paradigm, and out of your ass while your at it.

funny how this issue divided neatly along partisan lines in this thread, yourself included.

now make a bigoted statement. fluoride.

 

[NoDrama]

One of the big problems with the case from the get go and where alot of the outrage came from is there was very little investigation done. They took zimms word on everything and treated Martin like he got what he deserved. they did conduct an investigation after much public outrage and proceeded to charge Zimmerman.

Personally, I think when you go out of your house looking around the neighborhood packing a gun, then your pretty much looking for trouble aren't you?

They didn't "take his word for it". They looked at all the evidence and took all the witness accounts and THEN decided they had jack squat for evidence of anything other than self defense. Once the media and the Feds and the president got involved it became an entirely different thing. If zimm was not arrested and charged there would have been riots from the black community. A black president does not look good when black people are rioting all over the nation, so the spin was brought in and anyone with even the daintiest idea of somehow finding Zimm guilty will be tried and heard, but ultimately he is going to walk. Then a few days later some asshole will probably kill him.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Zimmerman if locked up will be for a political agenda, it would be a harness for the crazy whitey hating blacks who were calling a bounty on zimm FEDERAL OFFENSE by the way. He will be locked up to prevent rodney king 2.0, meanwhile being a convenient situation to regulate the people more and take away more of our ever decreasing freedoms.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

funny how this issue divided neatly along partisan lines in this thread, yourself included.

now make a bigoted statement. fluoride.

Not a bigot as much as a realest, sorry i dont live in your fairytale HFCS, vaccine land.

 

[UncleBuck]

They didn't "take his word for it". They looked at all the evidence and took all the witness accounts and THEN decided they had jack squat for evidence of anything other than self defense. Once the media and the Feds and the president got involved it became an entirely different thing. If zimm was not arrested and charged there would have been riots from the black community. A black president does not look good when black people are rioting all over the nation, so the spin was brought in and anyone with even the daintiest idea of somehow finding Zimm guilty will be tried and heard, but ultimately he is going to walk. Then a few days later some asshole will probably kill him.

only one problem with your story, they did want to charge him with manslaughter that very night. serino said his story was unconvincing.

only a very rare and odd visit late on a sunday night from a prosecutor with over a million people in his jurisdiction (who recently stepped down due to a conflict of interest) got zimmy boy off the hook that night.

do you know what a conflict of interest is?

 

[NoDrama]

After the investigation was done, they arrested Zimmerman. That is a fact. .

The investigation was done way back when the DA said they didn't have enough evidence to convict. After the MSM got ahold of this and started bandying about conjecture and opinion as fact THEN and only THEN was a new investigation with a whole new lead detective and all new personnel brought in to basically start from scratch.

 

[UncleBuck]

Not a bigot as much as a realest, sorry i dont live in your fairytale HFCS, vaccine land.

*realist

no, you're not a realist. and you haven't the slightest idea how i eat. most of my food is purchased from the farmer's market or local restaurants who support local, organic, sustainable agricultural practices. i can literally vist the farms where 90% or more of my food comes from, cows and chickens included.

i'm still looking for a good pork vendor.

 

[NoDrama]

only one problem with your story, they did want to charge him with manslaughter that very night. serino said his story was unconvincing.

only a very rare and odd visit late on a sunday night from a prosecutor with over a million people in his jurisdiction (who recently stepped down due to a conflict of interest) got zimmy boy off the hook that night.

do you know what a conflict of interest is?

When you say "they" you mean just one person, Serino, and he didn't want to charge him with manslaughter, he only RECOMMENDED it. Get your facts straight please, you cannot trust MSNBC to get anything straight, they are no better than Fox.

 

[UncleBuck]

The investigation was done way back when the DA said they didn't have enough evidence to convict. After the MSM got ahold of this and started bandying about conjecture and opinion as fact THEN and only THEN was a new investigation with a whole new lead detective and all new personnel brought in to basically start from scratch.

and after a more thorough investigation with a prosecutor who did not have a conflict of interest, they went with murder 2 instead of mere manslaughter.

facts don't agree with you here.

 

[UncleBuck]

When you say "they" you mean just one persopn, and he didn't want to charge him with manslaughter, he only RECOMMENDED it. Get your facts straight please, you cannot trust MSNBC to get anything straight, they are no better than Fox.

"i suggest he be charged with manslaughter"

"i want him to be charged with manslaughter"

your semantical arguments are tiresome and petty, but if that' all you got, i guess you have to squeeze every last drop out.

 

[NoDrama]

and after a more thorough investigation with a prosecutor who did not have a conflict of interest, they went with murder 2 instead of mere manslaughter.

facts don't agree with you here.

Everything you just siad is 100% true, doesn't change a thing. Notice the prosecutor didn't go through the Grand Jury? A jury can only convict if there is zero doubt about an intentional and malicious act perpetrated by Zimmer, there is sooooo much doubt it isn't even funny, the guy walks and you know it.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

*realist

no, you're not a realist. and you haven't the slightest idea how i eat. most of my food is purchased from the farmer's market or local restaurants who support local, organic, sustainable agricultural practices. i can literally vist the farms where 90% or more of my food comes from, cows and chickens included.

i'm still looking for a good pork vendor.

You brag about your cigarettes, your poisoning yourself with the all time killer, well except for government that is, democide. Thats for another time though, but even your cigarette smoking is a part of democide for the fact its legal and subsidized by government, good servile little livestock.

 

[NoDrama]

"i suggest he be charged with manslaughter"

"i want him to be charged with manslaughter"

your semantical arguments are tiresome and petty, but if that' all you got, i guess you have to squeeze every last drop out.

You keep referring to "they" as if the whole goddamned state and every police officer in Sanford wanted to charge him, but in actuality only one fucking person out of the lot recommended such action be taken, and his superior shot him down like a toothless hooker on Sunday morning because they had shit and fuckall for evidence.

 

[NoDrama]

*realist

no, you're not a realist. and you haven't the slightest idea how i eat. most of my food is purchased from the farmer's market or local restaurants who support local, organic, sustainable agricultural practices. i can literally vist the farms where 90% or more of my food comes from, cows and chickens included.

i'm still looking for a good pork vendor.

Why do you eat like that? Isn't it more expensive?