trying to source quality genetics for dispensary
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Actually growing has been legal for about 1 year and 2 months, and I haven't been growing to find "elite" strains for a dispenserary, I have been growing to find the right strains for the ailments that hinder me and my parents who both are also card holders. This opportunity just came up and I thought maybe I would be able to find some clones to get the ball rolling. I have a fridge full of seeds from DNA and reserva privada, but like I said it would take quite some time to find the best moms from seed.
1337hacker
Active Member
Dna and reserva have some nice stuff if your willing to wade through phenos, message me with what you have if you are interested in trading
AZCS Bryan
Active Member
Just a heads up the DHS system is written for Seed to Sale. Clones may not be a wise choice.
and as for the hate..... well..... it wouldn't be forums without some haters right?
Good luck sir. AZCS has seeds available locally now at their El Mirage location as well.
and as for the hate..... well..... it wouldn't be forums without some haters right?
Good luck sir. AZCS has seeds available locally now at their El Mirage location as well.
Chronicseeker
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The rules state patients can transfer freely between one another, I dont see why patients would not be able to freely give clones to a dispensary, esp if the owners/operators are patients... The only problem with Arizona clones is that you are never really sure what you are getting. Seed is the sure-fire way to legitimate lineage but it can take years to find the best pheno's. DHS rules, do mention they want to track from seed to purchase... Will Humble previously said, "I dont know where the dispensaries will get their seeds..." Since the state made it legal for patients to cultivate there is no way they would be able to control this...
Also, a dispensary can assign a growing facility, what do you think Compassion First Caregivers are shooting for??? To grow/produce their garbage/ fake genetics for dispensaries if they themselves are not awarded a registration/operation certificate. Too bad CFCC advertises their Dr. Grinspoon strain as a heavy yielding... RED FLAG!!
Also, a dispensary can assign a growing facility, what do you think Compassion First Caregivers are shooting for??? To grow/produce their garbage/ fake genetics for dispensaries if they themselves are not awarded a registration/operation certificate. Too bad CFCC advertises their Dr. Grinspoon strain as a heavy yielding... RED FLAG!!
So.says the organization who got busted with 900 plants, most of them clones. You can actually find a better selection of seeds at Arizona natural solutions at mesa drive and brown. They also have few clones on hand. I know the Guy who supplies them with clones and he gives them some pretty legit genetics.
That place is another scam. I looked into their system and they charge saregivers someething like 2000 a month just to be a part of their organization. Fuck them.
Chronicseeker
New Member
CFCC
1,200 - 2k a month...
From your harvest.....
They determine what is worth the 1.2k - 2k as well....
Oh yeah and don't forget they charge 200 a half.
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I think most dispensaries will hire cultivators based on their forum rep... LOL/JK/Disaster Waiting to Happen
The AZ medicine scene will be interesting for the first few years. The small "groups" who do take the plunge and find REAL growers/genetics will not be able to supply the other 120+ dispensary demand with their cultivation sites... Truly they will be the only ones 100% within the AMMA guidelines as well. (No dispensary is going to give another non-profit/competitor their dank/upper-hand for free.... just not happening)
Those "groups" will be making the real money in the industry, their product will be flying off the shelves.
1,200 - 2k a month...
From your harvest.....
They determine what is worth the 1.2k - 2k as well....
Oh yeah and don't forget they charge 200 a half.
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I think most dispensaries will hire cultivators based on their forum rep... LOL/JK/Disaster Waiting to Happen
The AZ medicine scene will be interesting for the first few years. The small "groups" who do take the plunge and find REAL growers/genetics will not be able to supply the other 120+ dispensary demand with their cultivation sites... Truly they will be the only ones 100% within the AMMA guidelines as well. (No dispensary is going to give another non-profit/competitor their dank/upper-hand for free.... just not happening)
Those "groups" will be making the real money in the industry, their product will be flying off the shelves.
Lucius Vorenus
Well-Known Member
Id be a bit leary of these guys. They are pretty messy and all over Craigslist trying to drum up business. Probably from Denver.
1337hacker
Active Member
I think hortusone is a collection of Az Growers (at least the guys I have met, someone correct me if I'm wrong). The meds I tried and the list of genetics in their members section have me wondering what you mean by messy... I've seen a couple of their smaller grows and it has all seemed very clean to me.
Have you seen their Afghani land race pics I posted back there? It was the best medicine I have ever seen or smoked hands down. Density, flavor, trich count were all completely off the charts. Heck... I'd take their RCLA any day of the week too (not too sure about the exact genetic background, I think an Amsterdam find) It wasn't as strong as the Afghani but the flavor is reminiscent of some funky cheesy kush I had 10 years ago. I've been medicating at a pretty high rate due to my illness for years and this is the stuff I've been waiting for in AZ. I would love some cuts... but I'm getting the jist they are gonna be exclusive to the dispensary candidates only.
1337hacker
Active Member
Thanks for the heads up on this one... you know how much they are doing packs of their stuff for or what kind of clones they stock?
Chronicseeker
New Member
I have heard a few growers ranting and raving about this group too, both good and bad.... Always haters I guess...
Seems like this would be a much needed service in the AZ industry, especially since people are scavenging forums for potential dispensary genetics/ growing advice, tisk tisk...
A fellow gardener said their grows are over the top medically clean, like walking into a operating room is what he described... He even said the growers are required to wear were scrubs and aprons when working, is that true?
What is RCLA, anyone?
CL is always a interesting advertising market, it is free, but the audience is not the most professional... Can you imagine another way for these people to get seen besides knocking on dispensary doors (since there are no doors yet and may never be any)... Regardless, if they are for real, someone with 10 yrs medication experience is saying its some of the best bud around/ever???
Maybe finally some meds worth every patients hard earned money.
Check them out on leafly. The usually update their menu pretty frequently. Just a word of advice when getting clones from them: there are two vendors that bring them clones one is good and one is shit. You will see in the plants if you go there.
Chronicseeker
New Member
How can someone who has just started growing judge messy?
No offense, but for example, if I am by no means an expert/qualified, I wouldnt talk crap about something I am not extremely proficient in. Im still waiting for some hortusone patient tutorials, then I will make that call for myself...
Have you met any of these growers or tried their meds?
It would be nice to get more info about legitimacy besides forum back and forth...
As in every business actions speak louder than words, a true growers work will speak for itself and dispensaries owners will have to figure it out from there. It would say its all on the operators to find the quality growers, im sure more businesses like this will be popping up once registration certificate are dulled out...
Some AZ growers who are overly qualified to produce real chronic are staying away from the dispensary scene because they do not support it, those are the best cultivators...
Don't sound too sweet on those guys, we might start to think you work for them or something.
I think the real growers are doing what they do best, producing and they will.continue just doing that after dispensaries open.
BeaverHuntr
Well-Known Member
The dispensary scene will be messy with the exception of a few true cultivators and connoisseurs, the guys who get their hands on good popular strains will be the successful ones.. Dispensary owners if they have any clue need to take a page from Cali's top dispensaries. Just look at the Co-op scene in AZ.. It flat out sucks out here for meds. Very few good breeders and very few cultivators with new strains or popular OG strains.
Chronicseeker
New Member
If only I was qualified, LOL...Don't sound too sweet on those guys, we might start to think you work for them or something.
I think the real growers are doing what they do best, producing and they will.continue just doing that after dispensaries open.
I would like to think I am but reality is probably another story..
Lucius Vorenus
Well-Known Member
I couldn't tell ya.
Personally I call them messy because of their business practice and because they are on Facebook.
Seeing as though most of your posts seem to be about them it's becoming apparent you ARE them or you work for them. Which is cool, just say that. Don't beat around the bush with little plugs here and there and then rush into defending them like someone smacked your bitch.
bro.
Chronicseeker
New Member
Im sure I can speak for every patient when I say I only wish you and all the competitors the best of luck searching for and producing quality genetics that us patients deserve..
Esp. since I am an AZ native and have lived through the BS laws my whole life and true chronic has always been a tough find. Two years of AMMA makes every grower think they know more then the next.
In Nor-Cal they have grower collectives where everyone learns from one another so all the medicine coming out of that particular area is of a specific standard.
The reality is, the task is going to fall on the owners to find the legit gardeners who are not just wasting a business' money without any consequences by growing on a whim.
This just means a longer wait before dispensaries are operational and product is legally available to the patients.
No-mind, most of us forum followers want to continue to grow anyway...
In most states it is more lucrative to be a third party caregiver and sell to a dispensary vs being employed by one...
Lots of people are weary about being a documented cannabis grower on paper.
I would not offer someone a position/ salary in my dispensary unless they could prove they can grow, how to determine that is the question.
Every operator should talk with as many established dispensary owners, in any state, my close acquaintances have run through multiple growers in a single year due to lack of experience or stoner tendencies..
Arizona is very special, here some can label themself, "the god father of pot," Alan Sobol, when they know nothing about quality cannabis besides how to get it across state lines...
This industry is about providing legitimate medicine at an affordable rate, doing something because you have a passion for that subject ultimately brings wealth.
The DEA handles the profiteers.
Discrediting any service that potentially helps patients is counterproductive...
I dont like mechanical trimmers but if it helps a dispensary get me quality meds at a quicker/MORE AFFORDABLE rate, then props to them.
Esp. since I am an AZ native and have lived through the BS laws my whole life and true chronic has always been a tough find. Two years of AMMA makes every grower think they know more then the next.
In Nor-Cal they have grower collectives where everyone learns from one another so all the medicine coming out of that particular area is of a specific standard.
The reality is, the task is going to fall on the owners to find the legit gardeners who are not just wasting a business' money without any consequences by growing on a whim.
This just means a longer wait before dispensaries are operational and product is legally available to the patients.
No-mind, most of us forum followers want to continue to grow anyway...
In most states it is more lucrative to be a third party caregiver and sell to a dispensary vs being employed by one...
Lots of people are weary about being a documented cannabis grower on paper.
I would not offer someone a position/ salary in my dispensary unless they could prove they can grow, how to determine that is the question.
Every operator should talk with as many established dispensary owners, in any state, my close acquaintances have run through multiple growers in a single year due to lack of experience or stoner tendencies..
Arizona is very special, here some can label themself, "the god father of pot," Alan Sobol, when they know nothing about quality cannabis besides how to get it across state lines...
This industry is about providing legitimate medicine at an affordable rate, doing something because you have a passion for that subject ultimately brings wealth.
The DEA handles the profiteers.
Discrediting any service that potentially helps patients is counterproductive...
I dont like mechanical trimmers but if it helps a dispensary get me quality meds at a quicker/MORE AFFORDABLE rate, then props to them.
