Bird Gymnastics
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Every "exclusive" strain here is available in various places. I guess you just need to know the right people.
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Chronicseeker
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I can guarantee this cut is not just floating around out-there for the masses..
I am aware of two people having this particular cut, one of them being myself, the other is a close friend.
It really is an AZ born strain.
We both believe in only trading within the "family"
Bird, through a few people I think we are closer than you would imagine..
Chronicseeker
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Because I grew it, I dont understand what you mean by, "why do I have it?"
Sadly, majority of the world is all about who you know.
But most serious growers have their coveted strains, this happens to be one of mine..
Yes, to the question about the dispensary group(s), but what weight does that hold with no businesses online? None IMO...
Until there are operation certificates all the contenders are hopeful dispensary groups.
Regardless of that outcome (I wouldn't hold me breathe on any of the state's promises), I have multiple legal scenarios (not tons of carbon scrubbers) set in place as a back up.
If all of the above goes to hell in a hand-bag, the so-called "messy" entity hortus one has also offered to point me in the direction of their excess clients.
Growing is a passion of mine, not a lifetime career and I want to help patients by providing them with quality medication.
Whether it be from my hands or the hands of a dispensary that I associate w/ does not matter to me.
Or better yet, why not just give it to someone who will strip the plant and disgrace the breeders hard work by dulling it out under some made-up name in order to make a buck...
Thats the AZ scene for ya.
Worst case scenario this will be a Chronicseeker (+1) patient exclusive strain.
Hate on exclusivity all you want, Im not going to hand it out to a potential operation where I do not have some cultivation oversight...
I hear ya. But there are many "exclusive" strains that are killer. Another thing I have noticed is that most patients don't really know that much about genetics and they tend to gravitate toward the more famous strains. So really I think whoever has the proven killer clone.only strains from other Med states will hit the ground running. It will take more tike for your strain to be known and since there will not be that much of it most people will have never heard of it. Looks nice though. Who are you affiliated with?
Chronicseeker
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To be honest, Im not looking to have it become a well known strain, just sitting on the top shelf somewhere is satisfaction enough for me.
You are 100% right, the genetic/quality knowledge is seriously lacking out here. But what should we expect from two years of minimal legal exposure?
As I mentioned, I garden with one other Arizonan and between the two of us we have a selection of proven strains that will be accompanying us.
If everything works out with the dispensaries, Im confident all of our collection will be featured with at least one operation and some are well known classics such as pre-98.
My goal is to bring patients affordable/ REAL medicine the counteracts their specific ailments. There needs to be some repenting in this state for all of the over-priced compassion club garbage that patients were subjected to.
Out of respect for their professionalism/reputation, I rather not divulge any info about my dispensary affiliates (w/o being cleared) on the forums.
What better way to educate patients and get rid of the overpriced garbage in the clubs than to spread your cuts not just your medicine?
I hear you on not divulging your partners on a public forum. Why wait for the dispensaries? There are quite a few clubs that would take your medicine. What will be different about the dispensaries?
Chronicseeker
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Im holding out for the dispensaries because the strains/ experience I have are my aces in the hole for a cultivation position.
Im not a cannabis encyclopedia attempting to bringing 50+ proven strains either, but what I have will hopefully contribute to setting the bar for what meds in AZ should be.
Maybe I would consider releasing clones via my affiliated dispensary.
Hopefully the 25 mile rule gets an adjustment, but this thread is not the place for that argument.
You do make a very very good point about reaching more patients by giving out cuts, and that is my ultimate goal.
But part of the medicinal value is in how the strain is grown, it is not solely the cut itself.
Don't get me wrong good genetics are an essential foundation to any garden, but knowing how to actually grow is a completely different beast.
In good time, this medicine will reach the right growers...
I feel you. Too.much in the air right now. Gotta have a few contingency plans laid out. I have a feeling that this state I smaller than we think and there are not as many growers as we think. The next six months to a year should be interesting.
1337hacker
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I know 6 medicinal growers that live within 1 mile of my house, lol
And you know them all. If there are so many then where are their buds going?
Bird Gymnastics
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Sadly enough, the people with actually "quality" all seem to know each other
seems like all of us are exactly like a "family" lol hopefully we can work something out....I think I have a few strains you'd love to have as well 
1337hacker
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Lots of patients are getting taken care of with good stuff outside of compassion clubs in the patient to patient scene. And you know how it goes... just because they grow their own doesn't mean they are big harvests or quality either
I've lived in this section of town since elementary days... I was just mentioning the 'medical' growers I know
I've also never taken anything I have grown to a club, most of the patients I have long term acquaintances with get first dibs ;\
But, I do agree, there are probably a low percentage of the 30k that actually know their shit. To back that up I have found it to be a "small world" when meeting lots of the people that do know what they are doing around town. Everyone around town is pretty much just 1 or 2 friends away from knowing each other.
Bird Gymnastics
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Mr. Hacker, Mr. Hacker....ha ha funny thing is all of us that live very close to one another grow very similar. We all believe in the fact of, QUALITY over QUANTITY always! Most of our meds go directly to our patients (speaking for myself and my grow partner) we have dabbled here and there with some clubs, but when I see a $70/8th price tag on meds I produced, I wanna slap the club owner! That is not compassionate....but what is, is providing directly to that patient at about half that cost of the same meds. I know I could get higher donations for my meds, but I'd rather see a smile on someones face knowing they got "hooked up" then someone collecting couch quarters to afford the meds that ACTUALLY help them.
1337hacker
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haha it's funny when you read someone's forum post... and you know who they are immediately without even knowing they were posting on this site ...
The compassion clubs do.suck but there has to be a means to reach more patients so more people can get quality. The compassion clubs are a better alternative in my opinion to dispensaries. The dispensary practices will be the same if not worse and add the fact that patients wont be able to.grow their own.which is the ideal anyway. That's what makes this one of the best medicines, you can make it yourself.
Lucius Vorenus
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This.
Within 5 miles of me there are at least 4 guys I know growing at least 4k rooms and don't even get on the internet. All of them growing bud as good as anything you will find in town and have been for years.
This town has sooooooooooo many growers, its nuts. Also awesome
Chronicseeker
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Birds, Hacker: We should start an elite family, those who are qualified of course. Great genetics low cost to patients provided by residents.
Let the dispensary flop due to inexperience, whoever we would work for would be one of the top.
Just because some has 4k does not mean they can grow...
There are breeders on this forum who post crosses left and right but never any dried bud shots. Any idiot can seed a crop, makes me wonder if they know how to finish a product.
These are the people dispensary owners should be weary of, all talk no walk.
4k is just scratching the surface of a cultivation site, good for them trying to get it down pat... Lucius, Maybe those growers have some genetics for your potential dispensary, if its as good as anything around it must be quality.
Just a suggestion...
From what I have gathered, my hopefuls are talking serious wattage and numbers for their site, they want a location that can meet the demand in the metropolis areas.
Hens the reason two people will be running the facility. 99 plant counts will not supply the 20,000+ patients. Other businesses will still be flooding product from out of state and will most likely loose their license to operate for doing so.
It is really going to come down to the official cultivation sites... If anybody has tried to get public info on the dispensaries they know most of the candidates are vying for the sales outlet not the grow. They think they will just sit back/ let others do the work and since everyone is a non-profit that we all should share... BS.. Those people are going to be at the mercy of the growers. I intend on producing affordable medicine, and my dispensary associates agree with a $45 eighth cap etc.. But when another operation comes in to swoop up some meds, they will be most likely paying top dollar. I know that retracts form reaching all patients affordable but at the same time this is a business.... If a group is risking intense federal prosecution by operating a cultivation site, one would be foolish to believe that entity would just help everyone else out freely. Trying to corner the market with low prices for patients but big prices for the competition. The markup other dispensaries will charge is going to bring patients to a specific stores.
Let the dispensary flop due to inexperience, whoever we would work for would be one of the top.
Just because some has 4k does not mean they can grow...
There are breeders on this forum who post crosses left and right but never any dried bud shots. Any idiot can seed a crop, makes me wonder if they know how to finish a product.
These are the people dispensary owners should be weary of, all talk no walk.
4k is just scratching the surface of a cultivation site, good for them trying to get it down pat... Lucius, Maybe those growers have some genetics for your potential dispensary, if its as good as anything around it must be quality.
Just a suggestion...
From what I have gathered, my hopefuls are talking serious wattage and numbers for their site, they want a location that can meet the demand in the metropolis areas.
Hens the reason two people will be running the facility. 99 plant counts will not supply the 20,000+ patients. Other businesses will still be flooding product from out of state and will most likely loose their license to operate for doing so.
It is really going to come down to the official cultivation sites... If anybody has tried to get public info on the dispensaries they know most of the candidates are vying for the sales outlet not the grow. They think they will just sit back/ let others do the work and since everyone is a non-profit that we all should share... BS.. Those people are going to be at the mercy of the growers. I intend on producing affordable medicine, and my dispensary associates agree with a $45 eighth cap etc.. But when another operation comes in to swoop up some meds, they will be most likely paying top dollar. I know that retracts form reaching all patients affordable but at the same time this is a business.... If a group is risking intense federal prosecution by operating a cultivation site, one would be foolish to believe that entity would just help everyone else out freely. Trying to corner the market with low prices for patients but big prices for the competition. The markup other dispensaries will charge is going to bring patients to a specific stores.
RawBudzski
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anything over 40 eights is a jip. I don't care what its name is.
BeaverHuntr
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All the clubs/dispensaries should be doing 4 gram 1/8's too