Whats your opinion on immigration??

[Hepheastus420]

Re fueling their economy? Mexico hardly has an economy. Mexico is a place where ppl can get rich and live comfortably if they dont get caught doing whatever illegal shit they are doing. Mexico is probably the most corrupt place in the world. Thats why all of em wanna run over here.

So you want to keep innocent families in the dog pit right?

 

[Kaendar]

wow you really know your american history. see spanish american war or mexican american war brush up on it.

This war is exactly what im referring to. I have a vast knowledge of the history of Mexico.

 

[Kaendar]

Good job.. Use my age against me while dodging the simple question..
Dude you can't call me out on ignorance when you didn't even know cannabis is a drug.

Im not dodging the question man, but thats a huge very in depth topic that I dont want to sit here and explain. Do some research and be enlightened. Your a smart kid, I can tell you have alot of tenacity, but you can never learn too much.

 

[Carne Seca]

This is a map of where native mexicans lived.. as you can see it is nowhere near the US.
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umm... your map is misleading because, first all all, your map is showing people of Aztec descent. There are several first nation tribes not far from the U.S. Border, the Yaqui for one, that have no kinship to the Aztecs.

 

[Kaendar]

So you want to keep innocent families in the dog pit right?

No, I think rather than Americans complaining about immigration and mexicans, we should take our military over there like we did to the entire middle east and fuck shit up. Do a complete overhaul of the country.

 

[Kaendar]

umm... your map is misleading because, first all all, your map is showing people of Aztec descent. There are several first nation tribes not far from the U.S. Border, the Yaqui for one, that have no kinship to the Aztecs.

The Pascua Yaquis are considered Native Americans, not native Mexicans.

 

[Hepheastus420]

Im not dodging the question man, but thats a huge very in depth topic that I dont want to sit here and explain. Do some research and be enlightened. Your a smart kid, I can tell you have alot of tenacity, but you can never learn too much.

I just want a little personal story from you that's all. You should try to avoid bringing up subjects that you don't want to talk about.

 

[UncleBuck]

Dude i never used a different name on this site! I just don't like know it all's like yourself, and Im no where near a pussy! I just dont like you because you think you know everything...

and i don't like liars like you. thus the trolling.

 

[MrFrance]

umm... your map is misleading because, first all all, your map is showing people of Aztec descent. There are several first nation tribes not far from the U.S. Border, the Yaqui for one, that have no kinship to the Aztecs.

put that in your pipe and smoke it.

FLAWLESS VICTORY

 

[Carne Seca]

The Pascua Yaquis are considered Native Americans, not native Mexicans.

The Yaquis did and do originate in Mexico. The Pascua Yaqui Like most tribes, including my mother's, have bands here in the U.S. and Mexico. The Yaqui wars ended in the 1920's and the effect of that war pushed the Yaqui from Mexico into southern AZ. There are still plenty of Yaqui residing in Mexico, where they originated.

 

[Kaendar]

I just want a little personal story from you that's all. You should try to not bring up a subject that you don't want to talk about.

Umm ok since you are asking so politely, basically after Abe Lincoln freed the slaves they were still treated like property. Most families in slavery were torn apart, especially the fathers were taken away on purpose so that the mother would have to play both roles and the slaves wouldnt feel like they were worth enough to revolt. This degredation led to black men not knowing what a father is in most cases. It became the norm for a father to be split from his kids so even after slavery it kept happening. Combine this with the constant reminders in society that blacks are loud, ignorant, wild people and you have generation after generation of black kids that have to suffer and dont really get anywhere in life. Its too much to type right now dude, let me find some links.

 

[Kaendar]

The Yaquis did and do originate in Mexico. The Pascua Yaqui Like most tribes, including my mother's, have bands here in the U.S. and Mexico. The Yaqui wars ended in the 1920's and the effect of that war pushed the Yaqui from Mexico into southern AZ. There are still plenty of Yaqui residing in Mexico, where they originated.

Did you forget that before whites came here there were no borders? The natives that lived all the way down in what is now central mexico were the same kind of ppl that native americans were. Once you got down to southern mexico shit changed, there was aztecs and mayas that were completely different.

 

[H R Puff N Stuff]

so then you understand that the indians were taken advantage of mulitiple times by europeans, spain then the americans.and obviously it effected my ancesters. luckly my family was allowed to become a citizen as was yours when your family was freed . so my point was alot of our ancesters were craped on we just make the best of it.remember the past but always look forward .he sealed the latino vote for sure after his excecutive order.obama 2012

 

[RyanTheRhino]

Look @ the fine mess we got ourselves into.




The truth is I don't have any good Ideas to fix the immigration problem.... it is tough one to solve.

The soviets seemed to do a good job separating Berlin

 

[Hepheastus420]

Umm ok since you are asking so politely, basically after Abe Lincoln freed the slaves they were still treated like property. Most families in slavery were torn apart, especially the fathers were taken away on purpose so that the mother would have to play both roles and the slaves wouldnt feel like they were worth enough to revolt. This degredation led to black men not knowing what a father is in most cases. It became the norm for a father to be split from his kids so even after slavery it kept happening. Combine this with the constant reminders in society that blacks are loud, ignorant, wild people and you have generation after generation of black kids that have to suffer and dont really get anywhere in life. Its too much to type right now dude, let me find some links.

No links needed nor wanted. That's all I wanted, a personal story.
Slaves weren't loud or wild since they weren't allowed to be loud or wild. So I don't think that slavery has anything to do with black people being seen as "loud, ignorant, wild people".. So that's not an after-effect.

And really? You actually think that because fathers were taken away from their families back then, it explains why some black fathers leave their families now? I highly doubt it.. Like seriously? lol.

 

[Kaendar]

so then you understand that the indians were taken advantage of mulitiple times by europeans, spain then the americans.and obviously it effected my ancesters. luckly my family was allowed to become a citizen as was yours when your family was freed . so my point was alot of our ancesters were craped on we just make the best of it.remember the past but always look forward .he sealed the latino vote for sure after his excecutive order.obama 2012

I just want Mexicans to stop saying this used to be there land. Unless your one of the Southwest natives your entirely wrong. It pisses me off when dumbasses think that the Aztec empire extended all the way up to central California and shit.

 

[cannabineer]

The soviets seemed to do a good job separating Berlin

Taking this view to an extreme, what would future historians have to say if the border from Matamoros to Tijuana looked like ... this? cn

 

[Carne Seca]

This is a map of where native mexicans lived.. as you can see it is nowhere near the US.
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This was your claim. Based on a falsehood complete with misleading map.

umm... your map is misleading because, first all all, your map is showing people of Aztec descent. There are several first nation tribes not far from the U.S. Border, the Yaqui for one, that have no kinship to the Aztecs.

This is how I addressed it. I apologize for a mistake I made. The Yaqui do share kinship with the Aztecs. So you're wrong on both counts.

The Pascua Yaquis are considered Native Americans, not native Mexicans.

Once again, not the complete truth. You seem really good at using half truths and outright lies to back up your claims. I noticed that in your gay hating thread as well.

The Yaquis did and do originate in Mexico. The Pascua Yaqui Like most tribes, including my mother's, have bands here in the U.S. and Mexico. The Yaqui wars ended in the 1920's and the effect of that war pushed the Yaqui from Mexico into southern AZ. There are still plenty of Yaqui residing in Mexico, where they originated.

once again, addressing your claim.

Did you forget that before whites came here there were no borders? The natives that lived all the way down in what is now central mexico were the same kind of ppl that native americans were. Once you got down to southern mexico shit changed, there was aztecs and mayas that were completely different.

Have no idea what this has to do with what we were talking about. The Huron are completely different than the Navajo. The Choctaw are completely different than the Hopi. Big whoop.

 

[Kaendar]

No links needed nor wanted. That's all I wanted, a personal story.
Slaves weren't loud or wild since they weren't allowed to be loud or wild. So I don't think that slavery has anything to do with black people being seen as "loud, ignorant, wild people".. So that's not an after-effect.

And really? You actually think that because fathers were taken away from their families back then, it explains why some black fathers leave their families now? I highly doubt it.. Like seriously? lol.

Umm yes, its a trait thats passed down from generation to generation. Just like ppl pass down recipes and traditions, bad shit and habits can be passed down. If kids see their parents do it, they are likely to do the same.

 

[Carne Seca]

I just want Mexicans to stop saying this used to be there land. Unless your one of the Southwest natives your entirely wrong. It pisses me off when dumbasses think that the Aztec empire extended all the way up to central California and shit.

You haven't the faintest fucking idea what you're talking about. They have found feathers and artifacts in mounds in the southeastern and southwestern US that are clearly of Aztec origin. There are mound builders in the southeast that may have been a colony of Aztecs from Mexico. Trade routes can be traced from the Aztec empire far into the interior of the U.S. The Aztec influence was vast. Many tribes interacted, intermarried and traded with the Aztecs.