Second grow, White Widow X Big Bud Feminized. Hope you enjoy :D!

catainahab

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wait for the trichs to turn milky and start to golden then flush with loads of water. ive got 3 gallon pots so i put 12 gallons of water through each pot then ph5.6 a litre of water for each. then water with ph water for 7 days. The leafs start to look unhealthy coz there using all nutes available. Start week 2 of water with a full flush again but dont ph the water.water without ph for a couple of days. Try to hold back for at least a 10 day flush. closer to 14 day total is best. keep looking at the trichs the more golden orange they are the less likely you are to get off the couch.

i wouldn't chop anything off apart from the single calyx that grows on the main stem to check for seed. i cant stand the taste of nitrogen infused weed but thats personal preference
 

Ocho2

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Well everyone, things have continued to just escalate in the garden. I remember just a few weeks ago coming back to micro buds, and now there are super buds everywhere. On top of that, we aren't even finished yet. Here is the update for day 40 of flowering :D.

Below here is number one. All of the buds are fat, and continue to fatten up more daily. Crazy how much of a difference one day makes XD. The top is rock solid, and filled in greatly.

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Below here is number two, and it shows that she was affected the most by the couple of hiccups. Even though a lot of her leaf was killed off, she is still super strong. Her top is my absolute favorite. Also, those nodes from the fim are not much smaller than the main top. Quite impressed with the FIM method, as this was my first time attempting it.

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And last but not least, number three. Again, the runt took off and is taller than the other two. She was FIM'ed, and only started to recover when I triggered flowering when she was 12 inches tall. The other girls were 18 inches, and yet the run still beat them. Four strong nodes made it from the FIM and also back some large buds on them. I like the two that are right next to eachother, I call them the twins XD.

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And a shot of the garden :D.

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Well I hope you all enjoy. I looked at some trichs on number two, just because I was curious, and there are cloudy trichs but also clear. Its pretty amazing. I am unsure if I should feed a week and then flush, or just feed until I start to see those pistils changing. Input and advice is great all, and hope to hear back soon. Ill take a video later on, as I still have to keep the noise down XD.

Thanks everyone :D

-Ocho2
 

crazyhazey

Well-Known Member
Well everyone, things have continued to just escalate in the garden. I remember just a few weeks ago coming back to micro buds, and now there are super buds everywhere. On top of that, we aren't even finished yet. Here is the update for day 40 of flowering :D.

Below here is number one. All of the buds are fat, and continue to fatten up more daily. Crazy how much of a difference one day makes XD. The top is rock solid, and filled in greatly.

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Below here is number two, and it shows that she was affected the most by the couple of hiccups. Even though a lot of her leaf was killed off, she is still super strong. Her top is my absolute favorite. Also, those nodes from the fim are not much smaller than the main top. Quite impressed with the FIM method, as this was my first time attempting it.

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And last but not least, number three. Again, the runt took off and is taller than the other two. She was FIM'ed, and only started to recover when I triggered flowering when she was 12 inches tall. The other girls were 18 inches, and yet the run still beat them. Four strong nodes made it from the FIM and also back some large buds on them. I like the two that are right next to eachother, I call them the twins XD.

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And a shot of the garden :D.

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Well I hope you all enjoy. I looked at some trichs on number two, just because I was curious, and there are cloudy trichs but also clear. Its pretty amazing. I am unsure if I should feed a week and then flush, or just feed until I start to see those pistils changing. Input and advice is great all, and hope to hear back soon. Ill take a video later on, as I still have to keep the noise down XD.

Thanks everyone :D

-Ocho2
all i can say is... holy shit. thats insane, its as if new calyxs pop up everyday. from the looks of those hairs id let em run with nutes a little bit longer, in another week or so slowly lower how much N your feeding them and up the P and K since theyre pretty far into flower now. probably wont need a flush for another week or two, with coco however it may differ, ive heard flushing every other week is suggested but i dont really flush in soil until the last week.
number 3 is a champ though, cant believe shes beating all the other girls. trichs look excellent btw, keep up the good work ocho!
 

Ocho2

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crazyhazey:7606034 said:
Well everyone, things have continued to just escalate in the garden. I remember just a few weeks ago coming back to micro buds, and now there are super buds everywhere. On top of that, we aren't even finished yet. Here is the update for day 40 of flowering :D.

Below here is number one. All of the buds are fat, and continue to fatten up more daily. Crazy how much of a difference one day makes XD. The top is rock solid, and filled in greatly.

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Below here is number two, and it shows that she was affected the most by the couple of hiccups. Even though a lot of her leaf was killed off, she is still super strong. Her top is my absolute favorite. Also, those nodes from the fim are not much smaller than the main top. Quite impressed with the FIM method, as this was my first time attempting it.

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And last but not least, number three. Again, the runt took off and is taller than the other two. She was FIM'ed, and only started to recover when I triggered flowering when she was 12 inches tall. The other girls were 18 inches, and yet the run still beat them. Four strong nodes made it from the FIM and also back some large buds on them. I like the two that are right next to eachother, I call them the twins XD.

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And a shot of the garden :D.

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Well I hope you all enjoy. I looked at some trichs on number two, just because I was curious, and there are cloudy trichs but also clear. Its pretty amazing. I am unsure if I should feed a week and then flush, or just feed until I start to see those pistils changing. Input and advice is great all, and hope to hear back soon. Ill take a video later on, as I still have to keep the noise down XD.

Thanks everyone :D

-Ocho2
all i can say is... holy shit. thats insane, its as if new calyxs pop up everyday. from the looks of those hairs id let em run with nutes a little bit longer, in another week or so slowly lower how much N your feeding them and up the P and K since theyre pretty far into flower now. probably wont need a flush for another week or two, with coco however it may differ, ive heard flushing every other week is suggested but i dont really flush in soil until the last week.
number 3 is a champ though, cant believe shes beating all the other girls. trichs look excellent btw, keep up the good work ocho!
Thanks a lot cata and crazy ;D. Usually around when do pistils begin to turn brown. I have been looking here and there, theres just too many right now to really find them xD.

Yeah with the results of number three I've decided next grow ill be triggering flowering when the new strains are all 1 foot tall, as thats how tall she was and shes crazy large. Can still tell she has filling in to do, but i believe her top will be the largest.

Will I be looking at doing 15 gallons of flush per plant? I know the water i buy has a pH of 7, as I did research at the beginning on the water. Since they are in 5 gal i figured around 15 gallons each would sound about right. But does every gallon need a proper pH balance? Or is it so many gallons of that 15 need pH and so many dont?

I am going to maneuver my way to look at the trichs better tonight, even though they aren't ready. Want to see whats happening daily :3.

Thanks guys :D!

-Ocho2
 

Ocho2

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RL420:7606981 said:
very nice bro
Thanks bro. Hows your garden? Did you prevent that loss? I got lucky with them pointing out the calmag issue.

Im hoping these will be done in a couple weeks. Im sure the pistils will start to turn soon.

Thanks rl ;D
-Ocho2
 

crazyhazey

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Thanks a lot cata and crazy ;D. Usually around when do pistils begin to turn brown. I have been looking here and there, theres just too many right now to really find them xD.

Yeah with the results of number three I've decided next grow ill be triggering flowering when the new strains are all 1 foot tall, as thats how tall she was and shes crazy large. Can still tell she has filling in to do, but i believe her top will be the largest.

Will I be looking at doing 15 gallons of flush per plant? I know the water i buy has a pH of 7, as I did research at the beginning on the water. Since they are in 5 gal i figured around 15 gallons each would sound about right. But does every gallon need a proper pH balance? Or is it so many gallons of that 15 need pH and so many dont?

I am going to maneuver my way to look at the trichs better tonight, even though they aren't ready. Want to see whats happening daily :3.

Thanks guys :D!

-Ocho2
haha i know what you mean, once its close to harvest youll see plenty of em. and some strains tend to have that huge stretch once you put em into flower, you got pretty lucky with this pheno. and i think 2.5x the pot size is what people tend to do, i do about 1.5x if anything, you might not have to do as much since your in coco. i would just pH it correctly to avoid any problems, a couple drops of lemon juice is usually all i use.
 

catainahab

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with the flush i wouldnt bother ph ing the main body of water. just the last litre to set the ph of the coco again otherwise you would use a shit load of ph down. as for the pistils how longs a peice of string. when i harvest the majority of the pistils are red but only about 60/40 the drying process will turn the rest red. keep looking at the trichs they are the key to when your plants are ready.

i hate flushing coz it takes an age to pump that much water through each plant and i grow nine at a time i have to use my bath for drainage( i live in a 2nd floor flat). but its only a big flush at the start of each flush week then water everyday. if you ph5.6 the water for the first week it helps the plant suck all the remaining nutes out of the coco and it will start to digest itself. the second week of flush absolute zero chemicals including ph adjustments its a natural flavour thing
 

Ocho2

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looking shit hot mate. still got loads of swelling left to go. good choice of seeds aswell any form of kush is a top smoke and the bubblegum will stink the house out.
with the flush i wouldnt bother ph ing the main body of water. just the last litre to set the ph of the coco again otherwise you would use a shit load of ph down. as for the pistils how longs a peice of string. when i harvest the majority of the pistils are red but only about 60/40 the drying process will turn the rest red. keep looking at the trichs they are the key to when your plants are ready.

i hate flushing coz it takes an age to pump that much water through each plant and i grow nine at a time i have to use my bath for drainage( i live in a 2nd floor flat). but its only a big flush at the start of each flush week then water everyday. if you ph5.6 the water for the first week it helps the plant suck all the remaining nutes out of the coco and it will start to digest itself. the second week of flush absolute zero chemicals including ph adjustments its a natural flavour thing
Well I didn't get to look at number one last night. I pulled number three out, so difficult, and I found my first brown pistils. After looking closely the back side and even a spot here and there in the front have them. Ghe trichs on number one are all cloudy and look as if they are progressing towards amber. I snipped a tiny piece of leave and looked under the scope, as its easier than planting it on a bud (thanks RW).

Here are two breathtaking photos of number one. Its been so hard to look at her and getting photos and looking blew my mind. Look at the photo closely and you'll see those hairs:D.

So PUMPED.

Thanks Cata RL and Crazy

-Ocho2
 

Ocho2

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They just got out of day 41 of darkness, and here are brown pistils I discovered on number one. I also found a tiny one on number two, but seeing number one is the furthest in and first to break the soil, she's ahead of all of them in maturity..just not height xD.

Here are the shots I took. The trichs are insane.

Looks like the end stretch is nearing :D!!!!!

I really hope you will all keep in touch, add me as a friend, and also tag along on my next journey. Bubblegummer, Pure AK, Sensi Star, and Exodus Kush. I also have critical kush, pineapple chunk, and other interesting freebies..but the four main strains are going to be in the next garden :D.

Thanks everyone so much :D.

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catainahab

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by the looks of them pistils its a good couple of weeks until flush. you can see just from the photo that the trichs are cloudy but alot of them look like they are still clear. a very general rule of thumb with a big bud variety is that if the buds are the thicker than a coke can your on the right track. in the next couple of weeks they will look like frosty the snowmans manhood.
 

Ocho2

Active Member
by the looks of them pistils its a good couple of weeks until flush. you can see just from the photo that the trichs are cloudy but alot of them look like they are still clear. a very general rule of thumb with a big bud variety is that if the buds are the thicker than a coke can your on the right track. in the next couple of weeks they will look like frosty the snowmans manhood.
Lulz at frosty the snow mans manhood xD. I took a peak while they are sleeping and I noticed where another brown hair or two appeared at the top and front of number ones main bud.

Continues to get crazier xD.

Update tonight.

-ocho2
 

Ocho2

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Here the update I meant to do last night late. Fell asleep too early XD.

I am noticing more and more brown hairs, and not just on number one. They are appearing on every plant. Of course its mostly on their main tops, but I am also finding them on much lower growth as well.

Below here is number one, and shes swelling up quite a bit. Also see if you can spot brown hairs :D. Mad trichomes, and I get more excited every day XD.

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Here is number two below here. Im just happy she made it through the issues. If it wasn't for her, we may have not identified the problem.

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And lastly, here is number three. The ugly duckling, or the champion, she also has brown hairs popping up. Her buds are getting quite insane, but hell, they all are xD

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I hope you all enjoy the update. It feels like its the countdown until the ball drops on new years eve, and it's nearly a new year. But in the years case its weed, and chop day :D. I am mind blown on what continues to get crazier in the closet. I am still feeding them 1/2 strength 7-9-5 nutes, with 1 tsp. of calmag, and a proper pH balance. Can't wait to hear your input and thoughts :D. Write back soon ^_^.

Thanks everyone :D!

-Ocho2
 

Ocho2

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Do you guys think Ill be able to start flushing the girls this friday, and chop day around next friday? I jabe to look at the trichs more but I read not to go passed 8 weeks with this strain. Overdone is a risk as well.

Thanks all. Can wait to hear back.
-Ocho2
 

catainahab

Active Member
if it was me i would wait to see on sunday then go from there. the 8 weeks thing is only relevant if you have a perfect grow with perfect conditions using a full hydro system. if you stress plants it slows them down thats why is said plus a couple of weeks in an earlier post. cutting a healthy plant down early is worse than cutting it late. looking at the odd hair or two can also mean nothing, pistils can also change colour through age, stress or heat so they are pretty crap for basing grow time on apart from when you see more red than white(generally an age thing).

i have just been through an incident with mine and i can tell you straight that wasting a couple of months and money for mediocra weed is absolutley gut wrenching. i found 2 hermies on week 5 that started to seed the the other 7 i did a 14 day flush this took them to 7 weeks. they were a 7 week strain and they were not ready. could of gone to 9 weeks for perfection but if i did that all i would of got is a shit load of seeds.

its hard to be patient when you have bitches that look that good.
 

Ocho2

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catainahab:7621148 said:
if it was me i would wait to see on sunday then go from there. the 8 weeks thing is only relevant if you have a perfect grow with perfect conditions using a full hydro system. if you stress plants it slows them down thats why is said plus a couple of weeks in an earlier post. cutting a healthy plant down early is worse than cutting it late. looking at the odd hair or two can also mean nothing, pistils can also change colour through age, stress or heat so they are pretty crap for basing grow time on apart from when you see more red than white(generally an age thing).

i have just been through an incident with mine and i can tell you straight that wasting a couple of months and money for mediocra weed is absolutley gut wrenching. i found 2 hermies on week 5 that started to seed the the other 7 i did a 14 day flush this took them to 7 weeks. they were a 7 week strain and they were not ready. could of gone to 9 weeks for perfection but if i did that all i would of got is a shit load of seeds.

its hard to be patient when you have bitches that look that good.
Yeah its hard but my patience is strong xD. More brown hairs continue to show up daily, but there is still time needed. I looked at trichs, and number ones are id say nearly 85-90% cloudy. Waiting wont hurt, so Ill increase my patience even more. They look so great.

So once chopped and hung, it would probably be around a week of air drying? Then toss into paper bags for a couple nights then to jars?

Thanks cata :3

Ocho2
 

catainahab

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my dry process is- trimm the leaf back as much as poss (bubble them later for hash) then hang with a circulation fan but dont aim it at the buds. check in a week to 10 days when the thickest stem snaps cleanly. cut all the buds off and stick them in jars as tight as you can with out busting the buds up. then every day open the lids of the jars for a couple of hours. its good smoking after a couple of days of this but after a week or more ( depending on how dense the buds are) there is little to no moisture in the buds- smooth smoking. you will find that the bud appears dry after the air dry but after it goes in the jar it moistens up a bit, that is just the very middle of the buds losing moisture without destroying the outside of the bud. nothing better than home cured bud
 
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