Yea, definitely looks like an awesome bulb. I'm thinking (4) Ultra Growth Wave, (2) Coral Wave, (2) Red Sun. I found some at http://www.aquacon.com/WavepointT5Lightbulbs.html. Let me know if you guys find any other sites.
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Most definitely man, buying these bulbs every 6-12 months will put a hole in your pocket. You've definitely proven that one can grow some danky doodle with Flora Suns and some good old 2700s.
Although LED lighting is a very attractive option for small growers, I'm not too sure about the Kessils. If I were to spend $250-300 on LED lighting, I'd just build myself a nice panel using 3W CREE diodes. This should outperform the Kessil product on every level. They even have some cool DIY solderless kits on RapidLED.
DO3SHA
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I understand where you are coming from, but personally talking to someone, KEssils are made by HYDROFARM which is a good company , second i know someone who pulled 2 zips one plant on this thing, growing two plants at a time, i couldnt complain on that. And when you do DIY leds, yea you can save money but hety i would rather spend more and get a warranty with it. but fuck im T5 all the way right now
Fonzarelli
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You are right about the Kessil lamps. They are really nice and they have an overheat shut off protection. Something that a DIY probably wouldn't have right? I own a bunch of kessil lamps and I really like them. I still only use them for supplement lighting and they do a damn good job. I am trying the deep purple h350 right now for veg over my aero garden to see how it compares to my hortilux blue. Oh yeah, the Kessil lamps also are able to mix all the wavelengths together so they are premixed before hitting the leaves which is always nice.
Fonzarelli
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Don't waste your money or time looking for them, the Florasun lamps will do the same thing at half the price.
Fonzarelli
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Why change the lamps at any point during the whole grow cycle? The 660nm light is going to make your plants grow faster regardless if it's in veg or flower so why change them at all? I get the idea behind changing from MH to HPS from veg to flower because MH is pretty much 100% blue and HPS is on the red side (which is why some people combine both lamps and leave them in for the whole grow together), but with this perfected T5 spectrum I don't really see the need to change out any of the lamps during the entire grow. The Coral Wave with the added IR may be a different story, although one I'm not that familiar with.
Any LED driver worth using will include over voltage/over current protection etc. So yes, a DIY panel would include this feature. I have no beef with Kessil lights or any other brand of LED for that matter - I know they work and hold their own vs. HID all day/everyday. Having said that, my opinion is that a better product can be had for the same price (perhaps even cheaper). To each their own, my opinion and a dollar couldn't buy a cup of coffee.
DO3SHA
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but if something happens to the pannel your SOL at least with a company bought LED you have a warranty but hey its personal preference and i see exactly where you are coming from
PetFlora
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I musta been high as a mofo when I wrote that. Hell, you can do the entire grow under FSs, though I would mix in a few UVL AquaSuns + one Coral Wave + one 660. That would be an interesting test to determine whether the latter is worth the added expense/hassle
Do you have a blog or journal?
Fonzarelli
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HPS just plain sucks for taste. I haven't used them for years. I've been running 3k MH combined with 4 Kessil h150. The MH are 1000w which I think are a little much but I always get hard compact fruity nuggets so it works for me. I think the added blue in the MH help the flavor or something.
Fonzarelli
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PF I've been running the new 660nm combined with ATI aquablue specials on one of my 4 lamp fixtures and on the other I'm running 660nm combined with Giesemann Actinic Plus. It's a toss up as to which is doing better. They both have 2 x 660nm in the fixtures and 2 x of the other. It's a real nice purple light. I've also done some 660nm x2 combined with Fiji Purple x2 and it does pretty much the same. They are all 3 good combos and I would recommend them to anyone. It's a little on the blue side though so I would consider bumping it to 660nm x3 and 1 of the others for budding. It may not even need to be switched however as the added blue helps in flavor as everyone has already pointed out.
BTW this is all speculative as it is to early to tell which is the better light, but so far so good. Can't wait to switch to 12/12.
BTW this is all speculative as it is to early to tell which is the better light, but so far so good. Can't wait to switch to 12/12.
PetFlora
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Fonzarelli
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No way, I have to use 4 x kessil h150 reds to cover a 2' x 2' area! I also use 4 of them to cover a 4 x 4 area as well. But they sure do penetrate 100 times better than a T5 like he said.
DO3SHA
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i just an 8 bulb 4ft T5ho set up so whats the best veg bulb i can get? i see these true blue and pure blue bulbs on ebay but are the agromax 6500k gonna work better?