New grow room I just built but have quesrtions

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tet1953 said:
I tried air pots and I honestly didn't see much of a difference. My yields, while not the super yields I see claimed on here all the time, are satisfactory. Air pots are reusable a few times I guess but I dunno. The idea seems cool for sure. I had side by sides though, several times and did not see much diff.
Wanna help your roots get some micorhizzae :)
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Read this guys review...http://www.amazon.com/Superoots-5-2-Gallon-20lt-Air/dp/B004AWE0H8/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lg_8
...he seems to love them but the low stars are for the high price. YOWZA...a five gallon pot ain't cheap..$27+ for one and $20 each for a pack of 5...look out spackle buckets and drill bit...lol...but do the holes in the air-pots tilt down I wonder...to help the water run down and not out of the holes?..although I did see other models that look like nothing but 5 gallon -+ trash cans with holes drilled in em' so.... I wouldn't mind trying one to see a side by side myself ...although from what you say.....What it DOES seem good for is for the first stage before you transplant. Also what I did just find out is that five gallons is a pot thats 12"x12"...so I reckon the pots I have my girls in now must be 3+ gallons.
..So now I'm on a mission to see if I can find em' a bit cheaper..I love gimmicks...lol

EDIT: Missed this part which I can't do with a spackle bucket and drill bit:"There are no flat surfaces due to the inward and outward pointed cones, which eliminates any chance of starting the spiraling process as well as dramatically increases growth rates."





 
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Oops my bad, I thought you guys were talking about Smart Pot type pots. These things look complicated lol
 
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damn thats wicked when i found out about all this i had seen a version where a guy used a rubbermaid so he made a bunch of coin sized holes and then put a mesh screen to hold the dirt....so i made my own and the plants were flowered at a smaller size so they never made it to the edge....those look like they will work much better
 
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yehhhh...I wrote the ebay guy I linked you to in a prior post here.. asking if he'd combine shipping for 5- 1 Liter (4") I'd put the seedlings in and 5- 4.6 Gallon I'd transplant them to. I searched and searched and couldn't find it cheaper anywhere else.
They ain't terribly expensive and you CAN use em' over and over so...just another investment for a greater, faster yield...I hope lol
 
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OK...placed my order for 10 air-pots. The guy did combine shipping for all of them ($9) and he said I should have them by this coming tuesday...wow..that'd be fast! The communication between us was very goo so once they actually arrive I'll give him my big green thumbs up recommendation if anyone else wants to score from the dude. I couldn't find a cheaper price with shipping anywhere else.

All the reviews I read in more'n a half dozen forums had nothing but great results with them the only negative comment was that the soil dries out faster. ..but it took only one additional watering a week but it also can save on nutes because the pot size can be so much smaller apparently. I was gonna go with the 5.2 pots but forced my bigger is better mindset to go with the 4.6 gallon pots. Most people used the 3+ Liter pots but IK wanna grow my girls taller than they do...plus I'm not sure that I have to totally fill the pot up with soil if I chose to grow smaller plants down the line.

I'm excited about trying these things out! I even scored the one liter pots for the next time I do seedlings...
Reckon I should do a photo journal using them..
 
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kermit2692

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ya ost the link if you do im interested to see if you see a huge difference or not!...i think the 4.6 will be good thats nearly a 5 gallon which is pretty standard...
 
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kermit2692 said:
ya ost the link if you do im interested to see if you see a huge difference or not!...i think the 4.6 will be good thats nearly a 5 gallon which is pretty standard...
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This link? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Superoots-Ai...#ht_622wt_1165
I left a buncha links above. One from 420 had a pretty good and long thread going about them with lots of photos. http://www.420magazine.com/forums/grow-supply-product-reviews/114216-superoots-air-pots-evolution-containers.html
I became obsessed with this last night and read tons of stuff from different forums and youtubes. I didn't see one bad review and most people that used them loved them and they all said they had noticeable results doing a side by side. I think the link I left in this post from 420 had them too...I think. I read through so many I can't remember which was what...lol. All I know is I just forked out $84 for ten pots including the shipping.
I was tempted to get the 3.5 gallon pots http://www.ebay.com/itm/Superoots-Air-Pot-3-4-Gallon-12-5-Liter-/221020564529?pt=Planters_Pots&hash=item3375da2c31#ht_500wt_1180 cause thats what 90% of the people used...unless they wanted to grow taller bushier plants. The other thing I dig about them is if you wanted to transplant the same plant three times you could with zero problem being they just unsnap and the root balls are so compacted while not inhibiting the roots growth. You gotta see some of the photos. The only thing is...they ain't cheap..but not terribly expensive and you can use them over and over.
Look at the photos on the last page (17) of the link I left in this post and you'll see what I mean about the compactness of the roots and how easy it'd be to transplant..saving on nutes. Sounds like I should be a salesman for these suckas huh? lol...and IK haven't even used em yet...:lol: I'll keep yaz posted..
 
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kermit2692

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lmao ya they should send em to you for free.....i meant a link if you made a journal or you could always just do it here too..
 
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P1010243.jpgP1010245.jpgP1010246.jpgP1010253.jpgTook these photos this morning. Tomorrow will be exactly one month from when these girls were just mere seedlings :) 2 violator Kush and 2 LSD..both Barney's. Put a dehumidifier in the room and it's awesome. Better'n I thought. The humidity level was getting up to 60% so I figured I better do something and took out a dehumidifier I happened to have. Never needed to mess with the setting but this time I set it t 50% and so far it only kicks on when it gets over that. I love it! I even have a small humidifier in there as well because in my second week I needed it occasionally....so now my grow room is becoming more and more complete. Not just are my girls growing but so is the room I framed out. Gawd is this addicting...lol.:weed:

Not sure how long I'm gonna let em' veg but I want em to get way taller being only four sprouted. Next I spose I need to learn how to trim the girls and stake the branches back so the light hits them all. Not bad for a noob :)
 
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kermit2692

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just a heads up i recently had an issue with using a dehumidifier....i ALWAYS keep my flouros closer than other ppl..around 3 inches away...and the combo of close lights and the dehumidifier caused some leaf rolling and edge burning....in veg you want humidity from 60-70 in flower down to 50ish and then the last couple weeks of flower some ppl like to drop it as far as they can they claim it helps resin production but since i will not harvest all at once i do not do that...looking good tho!!
 
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kermit2692 said:
just a heads up i recently had an issue with using a dehumidifier....i ALWAYS keep my flouros closer than other ppl..around 3 inches away...and the combo of close lights and the dehumidifier caused some leaf rolling and edge burning....in veg you want humidity from 60-70 in flower down to 50ish and then the last couple weeks of flower some ppl like to drop it as far as they can they claim it helps resin production but since i will not harvest all at once i do not do that...looking good tho!!
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whoaaa...thanks my brother. How'd I miss that? Musta skipped that page but I reckon thats what friends'r for huh :) Damn...thanks fer the heads up. I just shut the dehumidifier off...not that it was running but just in case it does go on again. It's up from 47% to 52% already. I'll give'r a few more hours and see where it goes...then on goes my lil' humidifier if it doesn't get any higher. Nice to be able to regulate things so well. sorta like what I do with my own body...lol. thats one reason I've been vegan and macrobiotic for so many years...lets me know when things need adjusting better'n it did before I paid so much attention..HA!

OK..I Googled again and you're right..not that I doubted you'r nuthin' http://bigbudsmag.com/grow/how/article/achieve-optimal-humidity-levels-your-medical-marijuana-garden-august-2011 I saw it first in Wiki before I found this site and I have to say...I'm surprised at how good Wiki is with info on this subject...prolly a buncha heads working there...lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_cultivation

I have two books I'd been working out of besides this forum...One is http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Horticulture-Outdoor-Medical-Growers/dp/187882323X/ref=cm_lmf_tit_3 and the other's http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Growers-Handbook-Complete-Cultivation/dp/0932551467/ref=pd_sim_b_1 They're both good but the forums are better..much better..and actually growing is the best...duh...

I had my lights...like you, way close to the plants. Maybe a foot off the top of them with no problems and no need to even turn on the inline fan but when they got bigger I found I needed to raise them 18-24" above the tops. I really'd rather not keep the inline fan going if I don't have to.

Do you think by raising the light up like I have now (24") that makes the plants stretch higher at this point? In other words..if I keep the light lower will the plants just get bushier and not as tall? I think I'd like them to grow taller and wondered if the LST method https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/6834-how-lst-low-stress-training.html might be good to try or in your opinion should I just let them go as they have been going?

EDIT: Humidity level is up to 59% already..woohoo
 
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kermit2692

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i would lst them for sure you slowly bring that main branch down at a joint where you can go around some branches too for stability and so the string or w/e doesnt start just sliding up the plant...and when you get the main stalk to a certain point it will have a few branches that are the same height as it is and they will all take off like mini main colas....and if your light is 2 ft off id say you should see a little more stretch but my goal when i lst is to not allow any stretch on those top branches so that by the time i do have a nice sized plant all the mid and bottom branches are strung or staked to the same height, so it takes longer to achieve the height you want but it will increase your yield...still though 2 ft you should be fine but i would have mine closer all preference
 
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Oh shit...lol...just remembered..my 4.6 gallon airpots are coming the beginning of this week so I'll just read up on LSTing until I do my final transplant in the bigger air-pots...whewwww..glad I didn't just go at it. I think I gotta take me a cpl a chill pills...lol

One thing'll be nice doing the air-pots AND the LST will be a photo journal...shit..where's them chill pills...lol
 
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sandiegojack2 said:
Saw your post and got excited!!LSD Plant's do you have current pic's?? I'm just in the start of the finish on my little LSD plant's!!would LOVE TO SEE YOUR"S!! please jack.Had cal-mg deficiency as you can see but getting huge!! Secound time around yield lower these clones!..View attachment 2226369View attachment 2226373View attachment 2226376
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Whoaaa dude...now you have ME more excited than I was!
My photos are in prior posts in this thread. I think post #52 +- has photos I took today. I'm just about at 30 days from seedlings...Only 2 of the five sprouted which pissed me off but the two look AWESOME!. I was saying to Kermit a few posts up that I'm thinking of trying to use the LST method as soon as my new 4.6 gallon air-pots arrive in a few days and I transplant them. Kinda new to indoor growing but things are working out prettty good in spite of just the two sprouting. I also have two of five that sprouted of the Barney's Kush violator doing just as well as the LSD's...

So what you just posted are clones? they look AMAZING! So if they're clones I assume you already had a harvested batch? How was the smoke and what kinda yield did you get...and what do you expect off the plants you just posted here?
How many LSD plants are in those photos??
 
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Jack....here ya go...just took these. The LSD's are in the forefront..the Violator Kush are in the rear and you can see I have my humidifier going to bring up the humidity level to above 60% thanks to Kermit for giving me a heads up about that..
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