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beenthere

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canndo said:
Then, Fox is sucessful because they are not stupid? Agreed, no one ever said they were. That a message is popular has no bearing on the accuracy of that message.
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Where's your proof that Fox News is less accurate that any other television news source?
Got something to back your accusations, or is just another leftie talking point you are regurgitating?
 
canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
Where's your proof that Fox News is less accurate that any other television news source?
Got something to back your accusations, or is just another leftie talking point you are regurgitating?
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Where did I say that Fox was any less accurate? I cannot prove that, what I can prove is that Fox viewers are less informed, that has a good bit of significance.
 
canndo

canndo

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Red1966 said:
So then you CAN'T provide any evidence Bush stole the election you claimed you have. Liar. I didn't say 1500 ballots, I said 1500 observers. The number of ballots would be much higher. Liar. "prove that the number exceeds the number of legitimate voters denied" is a false arguement. Liar " you contend that it is reasonable to keep 1000 voters from voting in order to prevent 1 case of voter fraud." Where did you get those numbers? Just made them up. Liar. "are you unwilling to apply any corrective measures to the global warming issue until and unless difinitive proof is presented?" Never asked me that. What has this to do with the subject? Misdirection again? You are definitely emulating UncleShitBritches. So there is no point in talking to you. I thought you were a reasonable person, but you aren't. Good luck with your Obamacare. Don't come to Florida when you get sick, no Obamacare here.
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One of the formost ways the right baracades themselves in their own echo chambers is with the prodigious use of the accusation of liar. Everyone they disagree with, in fact everyone that has an ideology that is not one hundred percent in lock step with their predetermined beliefs are liars. This is a very easy way to avoid cognitive dissonence, it is a way to avoid grey areas, it is a way to avoid doubt - and doubt is a conservative's worst enemy. So I am liar, it is very important to you that I am a liar.

I can provide evidence - NOT PROOF that Bush "stole" the election and if you are truely interested in such things I will make the effort, but I doubt you will do anything but claim all of my evidence are lies as well.

Yes, I made that number up as should be obvious to all readers.

Indeed, that argument that you claim is false is the Only argument.

So i will ask it in a more direct way.


Red? How many legitimate voters votes are you willing to sacrafice in order to prevent a single case of voter fraud? Any number will do here.
 
canndo

canndo

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Red1966 said:
No, you purposely misquoted me. Don't play innocent. Liar.
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We talked about that liar thing, or rather I did, I doubt you will agree with my assessment of your penchant for calling others whom you don't know, liars. It is a foolish thing to do, to purposefuly misquote a post that could be verified with several clicks of a mouse - I do my level best not to practice that sort of foolishness. so maybe we should examine what you said?
 
Red1966

Red1966

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canndo said:
One of the formost ways the right baracades themselves in their own echo chambers is with the prodigious use of the accusation of liar. Everyone they disagree with, in fact everyone that has an ideology that is not one hundred percent in lock step with their predetermined beliefs are liars. This is a very easy way to avoid cognitive dissonence, it is a way to avoid grey areas, it is a way to avoid doubt - and doubt is a conservative's worst enemy. So I am liar, it is very important to you that I am a liar. I can provide evidence - NOT PROOF that Bush "stole" the election and if you are truely interested in such things I will make the effort, but I doubt you will do anything but claim all of my evidence are lies as well. Yes, I made that number up as should be obvious to all readers. Indeed, that argument that you claim is false is the Only argument. So i will ask it in a more direct way. Red? How many legitimate voters votes are you willing to sacrafice in order to prevent a single case of voter fraud? Any number will do here.
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You did lie, now you pretend you didn't. Your only argument is false. Show me these voter you claim.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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canndo said:
We talked about that liar thing, or rather I did, I doubt you will agree with my assessment of your penchant for calling others whom you don't know, liars. It is a foolish thing to do, to purposefuly misquote a post that could be verified with several clicks of a mouse - I do my level best not to practice that sort of foolishness. so maybe we should examine what you said?
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If that's your best, then you've failed. You did lie, stop denying it.
 
canndo

canndo

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"I fear that, as the government cuts costs while siphoning off a percentage of healthcare funds, there will less and less left for the providers. Older doctors will retire rather than do an increased workload for less money. Fewer students will opt for the lengthy and expensive training required to be a doctor. In order to meet demand, less qualified nurses will preform duties normally reserved for doctors. This is already begun to occur. The number of nurses will also decline for the same reasons.The quality of healthcare will decline over time. When the youth of today (Democrats largely) reach their 40's and 50's, the quality and availability of health care will have seriously declined. Government advisory boards (the so called "death committees") will restrict healthcare procedures for the older population. The average lifespan will decline. The seriously ill, youth included, will be abandoned as being "inefficient use of funds". The system will eventually be abandoned because only the very wealthy will be able to purchase adequate healthcare on the black market. But until then, thousands will die needless deaths. This will fall largely on the young, ignorant youth of today and their children. You sow what you reap. "

Ok, so it looks as though I did misread it and you aren't claiming that at all, you are saying that the current level of professionals works and that the numbers will go down as there is less incentive for them to continue workinig or for others to join that particular work force. Fine, OK? The rest of your doomsday scenario is pure projection there are no "death committees" much as the right loves to portray otherwise, there is no provision under the law for such things. Now, how many die "needless" deaths now as a result of not having insurance? I am sure you will say none in the face of evidence otherwise.

But I appologize for misrepresenting your post.​
 
canndo

canndo

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Red1966 said:
What are you talking about? Trying to pretend I said something I didn't? Another liar. Good Lord, you guys are pathetic.
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Liar Liar Liar Liar - it does get old Red, I have found that very few people are inclined to lie to strangers.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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canndo said:
"I fear that, as the government cuts costs while siphoning off a percentage of healthcare funds, there will less and less left for the providers. Older doctors will retire rather than do an increased workload for less money. Fewer students will opt for the lengthy and expensive training required to be a doctor. In order to meet demand, less qualified nurses will preform duties normally reserved for doctors. This is already begun to occur. The number of nurses will also decline for the same reasons.The quality of healthcare will decline over time. When the youth of today (Democrats largely) reach their 40's and 50's, the quality and availability of health care will have seriously declined. Government advisory boards (the so called "death committees") will restrict healthcare procedures for the older population. The average lifespan will decline. The seriously ill, youth included, will be abandoned as being "inefficient use of funds". The system will eventually be abandoned because only the very wealthy will be able to purchase adequate healthcare on the black market. But until then, thousands will die needless deaths. This will fall largely on the young, ignorant youth of today and their children. You sow what you reap. " Ok, so it looks as though I did misread it and you aren't claiming that at all, you are saying that the current level of professionals works and that the numbers will go down as there is less incentive for them to continue workinig or for others to join that particular work force. Fine, OK? The rest of your doomsday scenario is pure projection there are no "death committees" much as the right loves to portray otherwise, there is no provision under the law for such things. Now, how many die "needless" deaths now as a result of not having insurance? I am sure you will say none in the face of evidence otherwise. But I appologize for misrepresenting your post.​
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Read the part about "advisory board" in the bill. They set standards on what care is allowed to be given.
 
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ChesusRice

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Red1966 said:
Read the part about "advisory board" in the bill. They set standards on what care is allowed to be given.
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And that is different than the medical advisory boards medicare uses now for evaluating the efficacy of care now?
What about the studies the AMA does about efficacy of care that they use for advising doctors?

I guess that is better than looking at the ledger and seeing which people can be thrown off insurance becuase it effects the bottom line that insurance companys use now
Right?
 
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