John Birch Society

[Canna Sylvan]

beware agenda 21! it will affect your food supply, your property rights, and illegal immigration!

i love the scare tactics. it's the modern day equivalent of commies trying to poison our water supply with fluoride.

beware the globalists and agenda 21!

Agenda 21 is some really scary shit. More reason to dislike Obama, he made an executive order supporting it.

 

[UncleBuck]

Agenda 21 is some really scary shit. More reason to dislike Obama, he made an executive order supporting it.

beware that non-binding and voluntary action plan to combat poverty and whatnot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

 

[Moses Mobetta]

Yes it says voluntary and non binding, until legislators vote on it and then it becomes the law. I'm looking for a complete copy of it to read.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yes it says voluntary and non binding, until legislators vote on it and then it becomes the law. I'm looking for a complete copy of it to read.

you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. aren't you the same guy who was pretty sure that obama signed something giving states' rights priority over federal?

why yes you are!

LOL!

you are out of your element.

 

[Moses Mobetta]

you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. aren't you the same guy who was pretty sure that obama signed something giving states' rights priority over federal?

why yes you are!

LOL!

you are out of your element.

No shit . I havent read it . Have you, you seem to know so much. And No on the Obama thing. You are confused. Nice troll attempt.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

beware that non-binding and voluntary action plan to combat poverty and whatnot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

"Maurice Strong, Club of Rome member, devout Bahai, founder and first Secretary General of UNEP, has been the driving force behind the birth and imposition of Agenda 21. While he chaired the Earth Summit, outside his wife Hanne and 300 followers called the Wisdom-Keepers, continuously beat drums, chanted prayers to Gaia, and trended scared flames in order to “establish and hold the energy field” for the duration of the summit. You can view actual footage of these ceremonies on YouTube. During the opening speech Maurice Strong made the following statements:

"The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. It is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation states, however powerful. The global community must be assured of environmental security.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrmQU24068I&feature=youtube_gdata_player "

Nothing scary about that! Agenda 21 is a bunch of enviro loons with magic crystals trying to convince us a florescent light bulb will send us to the 5th dimension of awareness.

 

[Moses Mobetta]

Crazy video Canna, thanks for posting and showing the real looney proponents of this in action. No meat huh, I wonder if that includes chicken? Not to mention they want to make my home community property.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Crazy video Canna, thanks for posting and showing the real looney proponents of this in action. No meat huh, I wonder if that includes chicken? Not to mention they want to make my home community property.

Chicken is meat, not vegetarian. Or as Bucky would call it, "ornamental non-egg laying chinese delicacy formally known as pet."

 

[ChesusRice]

beware agenda 21! it will affect your food supply, your property rights, and illegal immigration!

i love the scare tactics. it's the modern day equivalent of commies trying to poison our water supply with fluoride.

beware the globalists and agenda 21!

Well I guess the JBS focus groups said
Communist's werent scary anymore
So they replaced the word communist with U.N. in their propaganda

 

[cannabineer]

beware that non-binding and voluntary action plan to combat poverty and whatnot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

That sounds like a lost cause. I think at least two gospels record Jesus saying that you will always have the whatnot with you. cn

 

[ChesusRice]

welch wrote in a widely circulated statement, the politician, "could eisenhower really be simply a smart politician, entirely without principles and hungry for glory, who is only the tool of the communists? The answer is yes." he went on. "with regard to ... Eisenhower, it is difficult to avoid raising the question of deliberate treason."[sup][45][/sup]
the controversial paragraph was removed before final publication of the politician.[sup][46][/sup]
the sensationalism of welch's charges against eisenhower prompted several conservatives and republicans, most prominently goldwater and the intellectuals of william f. Buckley's circle, to renounce outright or quietly shun the group. Buckley, an early friend and admirer of welch, regarded his accusations against eisenhower as "paranoid and idiotic libels" and attempted unsuccessfully to purge welch from the birch society.[sup][47][/sup] from then on buckley, who was editor of national review, became the leading intellectual spokesman and organizer of the anti-bircher conservatives.[sup][48][/sup] in fact, buckley's biographer john b. Judis wrote that "buckley was beginning to worry that with the john birch society growing so rapidly, the right-wing upsurge in the country would take an ugly, even fascist turn rather than leading toward the kind of conservatism national review had promoted."[sup][48][/sup]

now let's do the conversion

welch wrote in a widely circulated statement, the politician, "could eisenhower really be simply a smart politician, entirely without principles and hungry for glory, who is only the tool of the u.n.s? The answer is yes." he went on. "with regard to ... Eisenhower, it is difficult to avoid raising the question of deliberate treason."[45]
the controversial paragraph was removed before final publication of the politician.[46]
the sensationalism of welch's charges against eisenhower prompted several conservatives and republicans, most prominently goldwater and the intellectuals of william f. Buckley's circle, to renounce outright or quietly shun the group. Buckley, an early friend and admirer of welch, regarded his accusations against eisenhower as "paranoid and idiotic libels" and attempted unsuccessfully to purge welch from the birch society.[47] from then on buckley, who was editor of national review, became the leading intellectual spokesman and organizer of the anti-bircher conservatives.[48] in fact, buckley's biographer john b. Judis wrote that "buckley was beginning to worry that with the john birch society growing so rapidly, the right-wing upsurge in the country would take an ugly, even fascist turn rather than leading toward the kind of conservatism national review had promoted."[48]

 

[ChesusRice]

original quote

how about this ad placed by the john birch society in the august 29th, 1960 edition of "the birmingham news"? It`s titled, "what`s wrong with civil rights?"

it says, quote, "the average american negro`s security of person and assurance of honorable treatment by his fellow citizens in all of the utilitarian relationships of living have been exactly on par on par with those of his white neighbors."

so, what is all the complaining about? The complaining or the civil rights movement, as we`ve come to know it, according to the john birch society was actually a secret communist plot to create, and i quote, "a negro soviet republic in the united states." the exact boundaries of which were undetermined but which would definitely include cities like richmond, virginia, and new orleans and memphis.

converted for the "modern" john birch society

how about this ad placed by the john birch society in the august 29th, 1960 edition of "the birmingham news"? It`s titled, "what`s wrong with civil rights?"

it says, quote, "the average american negro`s security of person and assurance of honorable treatment by his fellow citizens in all of the utilitarian relationships of living have been exactly on par on par with those of his white neighbors."

so, what is all the complaining about? The complaining or the civil rights movement, as we`ve come to know it, according to the john birch society was actually a secret u.n. Plot to create, and i quote, "a negro u.n. Republic in the united states." the exact boundaries of which were undetermined but which would definitely include cities like richmond, virginia, and new orleans and memphis.

 

[Moses Mobetta]

Robert Welch died in 1985 -27 years ago. These JBS people asked me to support them a couple of months ago. I never responded and I still don't know who they are today. That Agenda 21 they oppose sounds a little like emminent domain on steroids in parts of it.

 

[ChesusRice]

Robert Welch died in 1985 -27 years ago. These JBS people asked me to support them a couple of months ago. I never responded and I still don't know who they are today. That Agenda 21 they oppose sounds a little like emminent domain on steroids in parts of it.

It sounds like a bunch of Frightwing Bullshit
And it is
By the way There are two other Founders of JBS
One guy founded the National alliance
The other guy is Fred Koch.
You might never of heard of him
But you do know who his sons are
Right?

 

[Moses Mobetta]

It sounds like a bunch of Frightwing Bullshit
And it is
By the way There are two other Founders of JBS
One guy founded the National alliance
The other guy is Fred Koch.
You might never of heard of him
But you do know who his sons are
Right?

No I do not know Koch, and I would not have learned of this Agenda 21 except for your post. But heres a small ammount of it-
10.5. The broad objective is to facilitate allocation of land to the uses that provide the greatest sustainable benefits and to promote the transition to a sustainable and integrated management of land resources. In doing so, environmental, social and economic issues should be taken into consideration. Protected areas, private property rights, the rights of indigenous people and their communities and other local communities and the economic role of women in agriculture and rural development, among other issues, should be taken into account. In more specific terms, the objectives are as follows:

(a) To review and develop policies to support the best possible use of land and the sustainable management of land resources, by not later than 1996;
(b) To improve and strengthen planning, management and evaluation systems for land and land resources, by not later than 2000;
(c) To strengthen institutions and coordinating mechanisms for land and land resources, by not later than 1998;

I'm not sure what it means exactly but I don't think I care for it either. Doubtful I can do anything about it either way, I'm not running down to give my life savings to JBS. But objectively what do you think of this Agenda 21 above?

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[ChesusRice]

I'm not sure what it means exactly but I don't think I care for it either. Doubtful I can do anything about it either way, I'm not running down to give my life savings to JBS. But objectively what do you think of this Agenda 21 above?

More bullshit you dont have to worry about

 

[Moses Mobetta]

More bullshit you dont have to worry about

Why not ? ......

 

[ChesusRice]

Why not ? Fred Koch sounds like a weeney though.

If you want to believe the crap
you might want to get one of these

 

[Moses Mobetta]

No tin foil hat. Just a serious question. This thread is mostly spam without real conversation. What a waste of time.

 

[deprave]

Chesus is incapable of having an actual discussion