TGA Strains Stable?

sniffer

sniffer

Well-Known Member
T Ray said:
You still never answered me! How many TGA beans have you grown out personally HB? And yes, I am asking the same question to anyone who comes in a thread about something that they have no experience with.

The reason I ask is because how on earth could you possibly know something about a seed company if you have never even cracked a bean?

If you haven't noticed on this thread the pattern seems to be that majority of people who hate on TGA or have shitty things to say about Subcool have never grown out one of their/his beans and that is my problem.

If you noticed the people who have experience with TGA that are contributing in a negative fashion I have not had one problem with (other than asking Captain Sticky how many beans he grew cuz I read his posts and know he mostly gets single seeds). It's people like you who spout shit off just because they "just know" or they heard it from Billy's uncle's brothers cousin.

I don't have a personal problem with you or anyone else, but it amazes me the amount of people who come into a thread about TGA being stable and chime in when they haven't even grown one plant from them.

T-Ray
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20 jtr beans , no keepers and a few hermi . grew out 20 vortex beans , no keepers .
poped 10 plushberry , no keepers

all crap im my eyes
 
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15yearsofbreeding

Actually 15 years of Age
The Mantis said:
What is the difference breeder or a pollen chucker anyhow?

it sure seems that almost every seed bank on attitude, sannies, world of seeds, carries 90-100% f1's.

It's really hard to find anyone line breeding any more. i just went through my seed stash and realized i have 37 strains in all, but only 4 of them are f2's or higher. Only 1 ibl in herijuana, 1 f7 in sannies jack (talk about uniform seed starts), a f3, and a f2.

If you find a quality male and are lucky/cool enough to get real 'elite' clone only clone(s) to cross it with and make seeds, more power to you. It takes a while to find just that. Put in more time to make f2's and line breed is what the "real breeders" should be doing imo.
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mr nice seeds is the only seeds company left that puts in the work.
 
CharlieBud

CharlieBud

Active Member
15yearsofbreeding said:
who's work did jim ortega use when he created kush #4, who's work did nevil use when he created maple leaf, who's work did shanti use when he created white widow, who's work did dj short use when he created blueberry, who's work had breeder steve steal when he created sweet tooth?
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The difference is many of them created and works new strains off of the acquired stock. They did not just reverse and sell F1s. They actually worked a line to produce a stable strain. Even if you can not discern it, there is a HUGE difference between the two practices.

The F1s are an easy moneymaker and produce some cool stuff. They just are not a valuable part of the overall husbandry of the plants genetics, they are a side show.
 
CharlieBud

CharlieBud

Active Member
15yearsofbreeding said:
mr nice seeds is the only seeds company left that puts in the work.
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Not true at all. There are many local breeders, some with international exposure still actually working lines. They just don't get all the flash when the #1 (volume) seedbank is pushing elite F1s that breeders want fast cash for.
 
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15yearsofbreeding

Actually 15 years of Age
Jar Man said:
You folks bashing TGA do realize you represent a significant minority, don't you? So a majority are clueless dumbasses who'll just smoke and grow anything and you few know better?
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id rather be apart of that small minority than being apart of a larger majority of unstable hermi growers.
 
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The Mantis

Well-Known Member
CharlieBud said:
Not true at all. There are many local breeders, some with international exposure still actually working lines. They just don't get all the flash when the #1 (volume) seedbank is pushing elite F1s that breeders want fast cash for.
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it's great that people are doing this. but, who has access to these beans?
 
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15yearsofbreeding

Actually 15 years of Age
CharlieBud said:
The difference is many of them created and works new strains off of the acquired stock. They did not just reverse and sell F1s. They actually worked a line to produce a stable strain. Even if you can not discern it, there is a HUGE difference between the two practices.

The F1s are an easy moneymaker and produce some cool stuff. They just are not a valuable part of the overall husbandry of the plants genetics, they are a side show.
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wat are u smoking on?
 
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Jar Man

Active Member
15yearsofbreeding said:
id rather be apart of that small minority than being apart of a larger majority of unstable hermi growers.
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Can you think? It means the odds are heavily on the side that you're full of it or clueless. Where's the basis to suggest there would be all this majority of unstable hermie growers? Oh that's right. In your mind alone.
 
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15yearsofbreeding

Actually 15 years of Age
Jar Man said:
More like anyone who doesn't agree with you just HAS TO BE ignorant or never bred anything.
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making a cross doesnt make one a breeder when others use ur strains to created something else and call it there's make u a breeder. not even the so called king of cannabis uses tga trash and he's the number one theif of cannabis.
 
wyteberrywidow

wyteberrywidow

Global
Jar Man said:
Can you think? It means the odds are heavily on the side that you're full of it or clueless. Where's the basis to suggest there would be all this majority of unstable hermie growers? Oh that's right. In your mind alone.
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So you are tellin me that because I'm saying Tga is a bunch of crap with a 100 different phenos in one strain that I will smoke anything?
If you look on this site alone you will find plenty of Tga hermie gear.. Mainly with the new plushberry and aos, but then Ao,jtr,jc2.
 
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Jar Man

Active Member
sniffer said:
20 jtr beans , no keepers and a few hermi . grew out 20 vortex beans , no keepers .
poped 10 plushberry , no keepers

all crap im my eyes
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Because you and a small handfull say so overides mountains of others who say different? Hmmmm? Better go back to school and learn how to lie to yourself better.
 
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15yearsofbreeding

Actually 15 years of Age
Jar Man said:
Can you think? It means the odds are heavily on the side that you're full of it or clueless. Where's the basis to suggest there would be all this majority of unstable hermie growers? Oh that's right. In your mind alone.
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if ur a person who uses tga seeds...start at page one and read up to this page.
 
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The Mantis

Well-Known Member
It is pretty much the wild west out there right now as far as who can sell seeds etc. Just get you product to holland or uk, post them online, and rake in the dough. Just like dietary supplements, etc.

Bottom line is that as consumers, we have the power to choose who we give our business to. If you run gear, show pics and explain why something sucks or is great. Then you can buy more or not. I ran fem gear before, found out it's not for me, and now it's in a shoe box. I like other more than some. I like subs vortex enough to grow it outside and inside another run or two and bought more of his beans. I'll def report if it herms, but so far so good. All gear can herm if you fuck it up. I just had a first time herm of my tahoe og the other day (but i let a little light in the closet). i've beat up on this tahoe og kush from cc a few times but it finally broke down. this strain has been very easy and good to me even though i only got 2/5 crack open.

 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
wyteberrywidow said:
So you are tellin me that because I'm saying Tga is a bunch of crap with a 100 different phenos in one strain that I will smoke anything?
If you look on this site alone you will find plenty of Tga hermie gear.. Mainly with the new plushberry and aos, but then Ao,jtr,jc2.
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Wytes right confirmed agaent orange hermie here
 
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