trayvan martin

[UncleBuck]

Where did you get the wild idea that Martin was running away from Zimmerman?

zimmerman said so on recorded audio. witnesses also described a chase.

 

[NoDrama]

the laws in American prevent people from harassing each other with firearms without provocation not the other way around, you two cowboys got it twisted

you dont get to play cops and robbers as a private citizen then go opps guess it went to far, when your an adult you take responsibility for your actions

Please tell me which law says you can't follow someone if you are armed, tell me which law it is that says you cannot ask people questions if you are armed, and which law is it that says you can't follow someone if you are armed? You claim these are laws on the books, yet I doubt you could find even a sliver of evidence to support your claims.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

so many holes in a story that should be rock solid as a self defense killing

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

learn what the words context and intent mean and we can have a big boy discussion

nieborhoog watch is a job, it just doesnt pay its volunteer, and there are rules to follow so you dont endanger the community with shit like this

he was asked and informed not to carry and he agreed. thats all there is to say about it, ill be back with text book harrasment with intent and weapons clauses

Harassment. (1) A person commits the offense of harassment if, with intent to harass, annoy, or alarm any other person, that person: (a) Strikes, shoves, kicks, or otherwise touches another person in an offensive manner or subjects the other person to offensive physical contact;
(b) Insults, taunts, or challenges another person in a manner likely to provoke an immediate violent response or that would cause the other person to reasonably believe that the actor intends to cause bodily injury to the recipient or another or damage to the property of the recipient or another;

(c) Repeatedly makes telephone calls, facsimile transmissions, or any form of electronic communication as defined in section 711-1111(2), including electronic mail transmissions, without purpose of legitimate communication;
(d) Repeatedly makes a communication anonymously or at an extremely inconvenient hour;

(e) Repeatedly makes communications, after being advised by the person to whom the communication is directed that further communication is unwelcome; or
(f) Makes a communication using offensively coarse language that would cause the recipient to reasonably believe that the actor intends to cause bodily injury to the recipient or another or damage to the property of the recipient or another.



id say this fits quite well into this case, as even Z admits Martin was runnig away from him(indicating recognition of a threat or fearfullof Z stalking him), and ZS admits Martin made first contact wondering why he was being followed(que sterotypical homie comments)

Z is just another stupid john wayne mother fucker and he fucked up, just happens to be that when he fucks up someone else gets hurt

 

[londonfog]

a left handed holster on his right waist band drawn with his right hand?

LOL!

had no idea zimm was a contortionist! must be double jointed!

i bet martin just got real tired of landing haymakers and just sat back and watched as zimm unholstered the gun, flipped it right side up, aimed and shot.

cannabis made him lazy. count this death as attributable to cannabis, not guns. in the hands of violent dumbasses.

Yeah it's always the little things. Damn Zimm forgot about the little things. Can't wait for trial.

 

[UncleBuck]

Okay, then prove Zim is lying.

how about when zimm said in the written statement that he shot martin in the chest, and then the next day says on recorded video that he didn't think he shot martin?

truthy enough for ya?

 

[cannabineer]

had no idea running away from someone counted as confronting them.

It's the little-appreciated variant known as "conbackation". It's a way to stand your ground, minus "stand" and "ground" of course, so perhaps it's simply a way to your. cn

 

[UncleBuck]

Yeah it's always the little things. Damn Zimm forgot about the little things. Can't wait for trial.

that's a pretty damn big thing, i'd say.

 

[NoDrama]

no one has even tried to answer my question, which is the main question that has to be answered for this case to make any sense.

how many more people are going to make the assumption that martin was attacking rather than defending himself despite all the evidence showing zimm to be the aggressor on offense while martin ran away and talked on his phone?

where does this unfounded assumption come from? are pot smokers generally known as violent people?

seriously, someone needs to explain this assumption to me. what enraged martin so much that after running away, he went on the attack? what was his motive?

You still seem to forget that it is not possible for zimm to catch a person who is much faster and has a 30 second head start. Either Zimm is REALLY fucking fast, has a teleportation device or Martin stopped running away and came back to kick the shit out of some guy who was going the same direction as him. Zimm cannot catch martin if he was truly running away.

 

[UncleBuck]

You still seem to forget that it is not possible for zimm to catch a person who is much faster and has a 30 second head start. Either Zimm is REALLY fucking fast, has a teleportation device or Martin stopped running away and came back to kick the shit out of some guy who was going the same direction as him. Zimm cannot catch martin if he was truly running away.

in addition to dodging my question, you're dumber than shit if you don't think it's possible for someone to run away, feel safe, stop, and continue on with their phone call while zimm goes on searching.

 

[NoDrama]

learn what the words context and intent mean and we can have a big boy discussion

nieborhoog watch is a job, it just doesnt pay its volunteer, and there are rules to follow so you dont endanger the community with shit like this

he was asked and informed not to carry and he agreed. thats all there is to say about it, ill be back with text book harrasment with intent and weapons clauses

I will be waiting while you look those up. Also please show the Crime Watch rules and show me where they are written in stone and also show me in those rules where it says carrying a weapon is prohibited. Time to put up or shut up sammy.

 

[UncleBuck]

Give me a link to that information.

you got google and fingers, son. it's a matter of public record.

you might want to familiarize yourself with the case before making an ass out of yourself.

don't worry, you'll be banned soon enough and you can come back with a clean slate of douchery.

 

[NoDrama]

in addition to dodging my question, you're dumber than shit if you don't think it's possible for someone to run away, feel safe, stop, and continue on with their phone call while zimm goes on searching.

More speculation, where does it say Martin stopped and continued on with the phone call? Which witness says that happened? I dunno , if it were me I wouldn't stop running til I got to where I was going, after all he couldn't be more than 60 seconds away from his front door when he started fleeing the scene. Yet 60 seconds later he is trying to kill Zimm.

 

[londonfog]

Can someone please answer how Zim was able to pull his gun correctly to shoot ??? Seems to be another thing that just does not add up.

 

[NoDrama]

in addition to dodging my question

The scenario your question sets up is not possible given the facts, so it cannot be answered.

 

[NoDrama]

Can someone please answer how Zim was able to pull his gun correctly to shoot ??? Seems to be another thing that just does not add up.

You are right, the bullet MUST have come from SOMEONE ELSES GUN!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!

 

[UncleBuck]

The scenario your question sets up is not possible given the facts, so it cannot be answered.

of course it can be answered.

what enraged martin so badly that he so savagely attacked zimm, as you guys assert.

you have given no explanation for what could have enraged this kid who minutes earlier ran away.

 

[UncleBuck]

Then back it up, Dad. Dumb people have plenty of excuses.

i don't take assignments from sock puppets, especially ones with life sized inflatable jesus dolls that they fellate.

 

[NoDrama]

wow, you're dumber than shit.

60 seconds after he ran, zimm was still on the line with dispatch. martin got a call from his girlfriend right after he ran which lasted 4 minutes.

zimm didn't want to give out his address with martin possibly in earshot, and he was the aggressor, so going home was not a good idea for martin and he was not required to go home by any means.

zimm does have a history of following people to their homes, neighbors even complained about it and said it made them feel uncomfortable.

quit speaking out of your ass.

So in other words, a 17 year old football player in the prime of his life was not able to run fast enough in 4 minutes to cover 500 yards, he must have been crawling eh? Look UB, if Martin was really just trying to get home he could have been there before Zimm even got to the housing part from his truck, ITS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS by the 911 call that Zimmerman NEVER RAN AFTER HIM!!! Therefore Martin stopped and confronted Zimmerman in some way, either that or your other theory that Zimmerman has a teleportation device must be true, but my money is on Martin stopping, turning around and attacking Zimm, just like all the witnesses say happened.

 

[NoDrama]

of course it can be answered.

what enraged martin so badly that he so savagely attacked zimm, as you guys assert.

you have given no explanation for what could have enraged this kid who minutes earlier ran away.

You have to be enraged to attack someone? Enraged people don't think clearly and then get their ass blown away. BTW what ever happened to it all just being about race hate? Did you all just give up on that after your favorite information sources were caught red handed tampering with the facts in order to make it a race issue?