Harry Reid: Ultra flip flopper

ginwilly

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Is everything a competition for you? luckily your side invented participation trophies so you don't have to actually be any good at it.

I think there are many conservative comedians. In this climate though they couldn't make a living on Obama jokes and would be labelled as racists. Bill Cosby got booed ffs. Bill Cosby!

edit: reply to canndo, i'm too slow
 

canndo

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Is everything a competition for you? luckily your side invented participation trophies so you don't have to actually be any good at it.

I think there are many conservative comedians. In this climate though they couldn't make a living on Obama jokes and would be labelled as racists. Bill Cosby got booed ffs. Bill Cosby!

Competition? I dont know. As an iconoclast in training I suppose many things could be viewed that way. but sitting here, enjoying a cool breeze, watching my tomatoes grow while sipping on morocan tea and smoking a bit Hoyo De Monterey limited reserve, I am ready for any competition you might have to offer.

conservatives are supposedly happier than liberals, and most comedy depends on a level of unhappiness so... conservatives aren't as funny as liberals.
 

canndo

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probably got stuck in the sausage machine, where do you think it went?

Considering that the U.S. doesn't have a whole lot of money "saved", it is likely that all the money went back into circulation.

I have a brother and a sister. Our parents died. My sister does quite well, I do a bit better and my brother doesn't do well at all.

the money my brother got went to buy things that he never was able to afford - big TV, 4 X 4, new clothes, a big hat, jet ski, a lot of nights out.

Some of the money my sister got went to a remodel of her home, the rest went into mutual funds

All of the money I got went to investments, in fact I have not spent a dime of it and it has been a number of years now.

In terms of the economy, which was the better "investment"?

The short of it is, letting the rich keep their money is a piss poor way of stimulating the economy.
 

Harrekin

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Considering that the U.S. doesn't have a whole lot of money "saved", it is likely that all the money went back into circulation.

I have a brother and a sister. Our parents died. My sister does quite well, I do a bit better and my brother doesn't do well at all.

the money my brother got went to buy things that he never was able to afford - big TV, 4 X 4, new clothes, a big hat, jet ski, a lot of nights out.

Some of the money my sister got went to a remodel of her home, the rest went into mutual funds

All of the money I got went to investments, in fact I have not spent a dime of it and it has been a number of years now.

In terms of the economy, which was the better "investment"?

The short of it is, letting the rich keep their money is a piss poor way of stimulating the economy.
So you're THE definition of a hypocrite, good work bro.
 

ginwilly

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Competition? I dont know. As an iconoclast in training I suppose many things could be viewed that way. but sitting here, enjoying a cool breeze, watching my tomatoes grow while sipping on morocan tea and smoking a bit Hoyo De Monterey limited reserve, I am ready for any competition you might have to offer.

conservatives are supposedly happier than liberals, and most comedy depends on a level of unhappiness so... conservatives aren't as funny as liberals.
truly wish I were sitting with you enjoying the same. It's triple digits here.

Interesting take on comedy depending on unhappiness, let me chew on that one, it could very well be, seems plausible, gallows humor is some of my favorite.

Your blanket conservative hate grows tiring though. It's just another form of bigotry to assign characteristics to someone simply because they oppose idiotic spending. I'm as socially liberal as they come. In fact, if you look up the original definition of liberal it's the closest label I would assign myself. That definition no longer applies to the label however, strange.

I can call myself a classic liberal but that's lost on most people.
 

canndo

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truly wish I were sitting with you enjoying the same. It's triple digits here.

Interesting take on comedy depending on unhappiness, let me chew on that one, it could very well be, seems plausible, gallows humor is some of my favorite.

Your blanket conservative hate grows tiring though. It's just another form of bigotry to assign characteristics to someone simply because they oppose idiotic spending. I'm as socially liberal as they come. In fact, if you look up the original definition of liberal it's the closest label I would assign myself. That definition no longer applies to the label however, strange.

I can call myself and classic liberal but that's lost on most people.
Hate conservatives? Gin? Where is your sense of humor?
 

lifegoesonbrah

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The revenue generating side is not fine. When you cut billions of dollars in spending unless the private sector can offset those cuts, you will lose growth and revenues will fall. The private sector is sitting on trillions in cash with no sign that they're going to spend it without demand. Investors aren't investing because lack of demand, they're literally paying the treasury to take their money.

In this environment something has to stimulate demand. So you think that if the government cut all spending to the same level as revenues the economy would actually improve? How?
Because when you cut wasteful spending you can either/or reduce expansionary monetary policy and cut taxes, the money returns to the people to be spent by us, not wasted by the government doing stupid shit like bombing cities overseas then funding reconstruction. How is that productive and beneficial to the economy?
 

canndo

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Because when you cut wasteful spending you can either/or reduce expansionary monetary policy and cut taxes, the money returns to the people to be spent by us, not wasted by the government doing stupid shit like bombing cities overseas then funding reconstruction. How is that productive and beneficial to the economy?

If government spending always tends to go into the economy, then one could argue that no government spending is "wasted".
 

ginwilly

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Considering that the U.S. doesn't have a whole lot of money "saved", it is likely that all the money went back into circulation.

I have a brother and a sister. Our parents died. My sister does quite well, I do a bit better and my brother doesn't do well at all.

the money my brother got went to buy things that he never was able to afford - big TV, 4 X 4, new clothes, a big hat, jet ski, a lot of nights out.

Some of the money my sister got went to a remodel of her home, the rest went into mutual funds

All of the money I got went to investments, in fact I have not spent a dime of it and it has been a number of years now.

In terms of the economy, which was the better "investment"?

The short of it is, letting the rich keep their money is a piss poor way of stimulating the economy.
strictly short term your brother's idiotic spending was liberal instant gratification that caused a temporary spike. Long term, your position is best for the economy. It's odd that you don't preach what you practice.
 

canndo

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strictly short term your brother's idiotic spending was liberal instant gratification that caused a temporary spike. Long term, your position is best for the economy. It's odd that you don't preach what you practice.

We are in the short term department now, not the long term, the long term will take care of itself. Money circulated and confidence grown through that circulation will equate to more jobs and more government revenue. Most people try to pay off their bills before they begin to save because in most instances interest paid is in excess of interest earned.

But the point I was trying to make is the same, it profits us very little to see to it that the rich keep "their fair share" while witholding "entitlements" from the poor. My brother's money passed through more hands than my sister and hers passed through more than mine. (not to say that nothing is done with the money I invest)
 

Harrekin

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What exactly makes me a hypocrit? That I didn't go out and spend money I didn't need to spend? I already have a big TV and a 4x4 and a big hat.
No, you claim someone having control over their money is wrong, it should be "redestributed"...yet you horde your money away and keep it out of the economy.

Cool story bro :) *thumbs up!*
 

UncleBuck

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I hope you don't include me in your blanket bigoted, mean spirited "you". I blame the Koch brothers for hi-jacking and general grass roots movement like I had never seen.

My post about them vetting better was littered with sarcasm, but that's hard to convey in writing sometimes.
if you casta primary ballot for any one of those extremist morons, you get included.
 

canndo

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And by the way, my brother's "idiotic" spending may be more reasonable if we consider that he believes he hasn't long left to live. Now, I think betting one will not live long is a sucker wager but being short one kidney, having gout, heart disease, circulatory problems, emphisyma, and diabeties might tend to have one think that way.

Liberal? perhaps except that he professes to be a conservative.
 

ginwilly

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And by the way, my brother's "idiotic" spending may be more reasonable if we consider that he believes he hasn't long left to live. Now, I think betting one will not live long is a sucker wager but being short one kidney, having gout, heart disease, circulatory problems, emphisyma, and diabeties might tend to have one think that way.

Liberal? perhaps except that he professes to be a conservative.
you again make an excellent point for how silly your arguments for idiotic spending are.

If the Mayans are right, spend away.
 

canndo

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No, you claim someone having control over their money is wrong, it should be "redestributed"...yet you horde your money away and keep it out of the economy.

Cool story bro :) *thumbs up!*
I never said someone having control over their money is wrong. I pay all taxes on the earnings from that money and those taxes are "redistributed" as are all taxes, no problem there.
 
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