NARCS CAME TO MY HOUSE. They took everything. The DA rejected my case. and set me fre
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email468
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hi from the rest of the country!
while i am trying to sympathize with your situation - you do realize complaining about getting your grow stuff back when in the rest of the country people would be hoping to get a minimum sentence or probation ... you may want to cool down and consider yourself at least a little bit fortunate that you live in a progressive enough state to drop cultivation charges! Which would be a no-brainer felony in most other states.
That is most definitely progress from where i'm sitting. Enough? No but some.
Hate on me if you want - but just a little perspective.
while i am trying to sympathize with your situation - you do realize complaining about getting your grow stuff back when in the rest of the country people would be hoping to get a minimum sentence or probation ... you may want to cool down and consider yourself at least a little bit fortunate that you live in a progressive enough state to drop cultivation charges! Which would be a no-brainer felony in most other states.
That is most definitely progress from where i'm sitting. Enough? No but some.
Hate on me if you want - but just a little perspective.
it's safe. that's the point i'm trying to make. why won't people listen? ALL my neighbors grow. i'm in a "lowest priority" county. it would have to be the feds and only the feds. and believe me when it comes to california i'm a joke of a grower. i'm nothing. i know what i'm doing but i'm not doing anything spectacular here.You might be a humble person. But, when it comes to your growing your cocky as fuck. Like advertising to your whole neighborhood that you grow weed by growing trees in your backyard! All it takes is one pissed off neighbor to call the feds...You do you. But, I don't like how you try to make it sound like it's safe. People are impressionable and I would hate to see people get fucked up the ass in prison b/c Fdd says its cool. That's all. I hope I didn't piss you off. I still think your the baddest grower here.
hom36rown
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I love california
email468
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i hope the sanity spreads!I love california
i'm not backing off and hiding. fuck that. for the rest of you...............STAND UP AND DEMAND YOUR RIGHT TO HAVE WHAT WE HAVE. i've always said i feel bad that i can do this yet others can't simply for the fact that they live somewhere else. it's stupid. stop hiding. write letters. throw weed in the streets. get everyone you know to grow. i do.
i had 16 last year. i'm allowed 30.
email468
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i contribute to NORML and Jack Herer, and I do write my congresscreatures for this and other issues, and you know I grow and encourage iti'm not backing off and hiding. fuck that. for the rest of you...............STAND UP AND DEMAND YOUR RIGHT TO HAVE WHAT WE HAVE. i've always said i feel bad that i can do this yet others can't simply for the fact that they live somewhere else. it's stupid. stop hiding. write letters. throw weed in the streets. get everyone you know to grow. i do.
If you are aware of more worthy organizations - i am all ears!
but in the meanwhile, it still remains illegal and produces huge profits for PDs and that is an uphill fight.
My point was just putting the whole thing in perspective and sometimes it is good to focus on the positive - rather than the negative.
that's all.
iblazethatkush
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Having thought about this I probably crossed the line bringing this up. Everybody here knows the risks. Who gives a fuck what I think?it's safe. that's the point i'm trying to make. why won't people listen? ALL my neighbors grow. i'm in a "lowest priority" county. it would have to be the feds and only the feds. and believe me when it comes to california i'm a joke of a grower. i'm nothing. i know what i'm doing but i'm not doing anything spectacular here.
Having said that- I will never be convinced it's safe. I would rather grow illegaly and keep my name off any list the gov't could get. And you won't be convinced of the opposite, I'm sure. So, on this one, I'll agree to disagree with you and not bring it up- I hope your right and not me, tho
hom36rown
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usually its owners of co-ops and pretty large scale productions, like a couple hundred plants, that get the federal indictments...the only one that stands out is this one:
Mt Shasta, Nov 2006 - Siskiyou sheriffs raid home of Ron Hennig, find 44-plant indoor garden for four patients. Henning indicted by state grand jury, while feds file for forfeiture of his 40-acre property that he has owned for 30 years.
I dont know what the outcome of that was, but I would bet he got off and kept his house...so I'd say fdd is pretty safe
Mt Shasta, Nov 2006 - Siskiyou sheriffs raid home of Ron Hennig, find 44-plant indoor garden for four patients. Henning indicted by state grand jury, while feds file for forfeiture of his 40-acre property that he has owned for 30 years.
I dont know what the outcome of that was, but I would bet he got off and kept his house...so I'd say fdd is pretty safe
iblazethatkush
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This is what I'm talking about. If he was growing illegaly and kept his mouth shut and played it smart he would have never been busted... The feds have over a 95% conviction rate. If you get indicted by the feds you will lose. Call me crazy but I would rather grow illegaly.
iblazethatkush
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different counties have differnet limits.
my county allows me to.
Local Prop 215 Cultivation & Possession Guidelines for Medical Marijuana under California State Law SB 420
Explanation of SB420 Guidelines
*** Localities NOT listed below adhere to CA state default guidelines of 6 mature / 12 immature plants & 8 oz. of dried processed marijuana
Berkeley
- Ordinance allows 10 plants and 2.5 lbs per patient, or up to 50 plants, 12.5 lbs for collectives.
Butte Co.
- County guidelines : 6 mature or 12 immature plants, 1 pound processed material. Official Butte County policy regarding caregivers, collectives, and coops.
Calaveras Co.
- Board of Supervisors approved: 6 plants and 2 pounds.
Del Norte Co.
- County adopted Sonoma cultivation guidelines with maximum 100 square feet cultivation area and 99 plants or fewer; one pound possession limit (approved by Board of Supervisors 4/22/02)
El Dorado Co.
- Sheriff & DA policy: Indoors - 10 flowering plants + 10 vegging + 1 mother; Outdoors: 20 starters or 10 mature plants, 1 - 2 lb processed marijuana depending on season of year. Details of El Dorado guidelines
Humboldt Co.
- County guidelines allow patients 100 square feet and 3 lbs w/ no plant number limit. City of Eureka PD and CHP enforce SB 420 limits (6 mature/12 immature plants, 1/2 lb).
Patient ID cards available for county residents from Dept. of Public Health (707)268-2185.
Mendocino Co.
- 25 plants & 2 lbs. processed marijuana per patient.
Patients may obtain zip-ties for medical marijuana plants from the Sheriff's Dept (707) 463-4411.
Nevada Co.
- New policy Jun 2007: Cultivation: 6 mature female plants or 75 square feet of plant canopy (previously 10 plants not to yield more than 2 lbs). Possession: 2 lbs processed marijuana - consistent with patient's recommendation.
Oakland
- Indoors - 72 plants in maximum 32 sq. ft growing area. Outdoors - 20 plants, no area limit. Weight limit 3 lbs dried marijuana per patient. Collective gardens limited to 3 patients. Dispensaries serving four or more patients are allowed max. 6 mature and 12 immature plants and 1/2 pound per patient.
San Diego (also Chula Vista)
- City Council guidelines allow up to 1 lb of marijuana, 24 plants in 64 square feet indoors; no outdoors growing allowed except in enclosed greenhouses. Text of San Diego Guidelines
San Francisco
- Patients allowed up to 24 plants or 25 square feet of canopy; dispensary gardens capped at 99 plants in 100 square feet. Possession limit 8 oz. dried cannabis per patient.
Santa Cruz
- County guidelines allow cultivation of up to 100 sq feet of canopy and 3 lbs of marijuana.
Sonoma Co.
- Guidelines permit 3 lbs for possession; maximum 100 square feet cultivation area with 30 plants or fewer (approved Sept 2006)
Trinity Co.
- Guidelines permit 3 lbs for possession; 12 mature and/or 24 immature plants (up to 36 total).
State Guidelines Under SB 420 (Health & Safety Code 11362.7)
[SIZE=-1]H&SC 11362.77(a). A qualified patient or primary caregiver may possess no more than eight ounces of dried marijuana per qualified patient. In addition, a qualified patient or primary caregiver may also maintain no more than sisx mature or 12 immature marijuana plants per qualified patient.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]H &SC 11362.77 (b) If a qualified patient or primary caregiver has a doctor's recommendation that this quantity does not meed the qualified patient's medical needs, the qualified patient or primary caregiver may possess an amount of marijuana consistent with the patient's needs.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]H&SC 11362.77 (c) Counties and cities may retian or enact medical marijuana guidelines allowing qualifieid patients or primary caregivers to exceed the state liits set forth in subdivision (a).[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]H&SC 11362.77 (d) Only the dried mature processed flowers of female cannabis plant or the plant conversion shall be considered when determining allowable quantities of marijuana under this section. [/SIZE]
SB 420 Enforcement Guidelines
- State law, SB 420 (Health & Safety Code 11362.7), which took effect on Jan. 1, 2004, protects Prop. 215 patients from arrest provided they cultivate no more than 6 mature or 12 immature plants and possess no more than 8 ounces of dried marijuana (H&SC 11362.77(a)).
- Counties and cities are authorized to establish higher (but not lower) limits if they wish (H&SC 11362.77(c)). Listed above are those localities that have adopted limits above the state limit.
- Patients who need more marijuana can be exempted from these limits if they obtain a physician's statement specifying that they need more (H&SC 11362.77(b)). While police are often reluctant to recognize such exemptions, they are helpful in court.
- The legality of the SB 420 limits is disputed. California NORML attorneys maintain that SB 420 cannot constitutionally limit the amount of marijuana patients can legally have insofar as Prop. 215 allows them to possess and cultivate whatever is necessary for their personal medical needs. However, this issue has not been settled by the courts. Patients who exceed the limits risk being arrested and having to defend themselves in court. Any patient who needs more than the limits is strongly advised to obtain a physician's exemption.
- Despite supposed protections of SB 420 and Prop 215, patients may still be arrested if law enforcement suspects they are outside the law, for example, by being involved in illegal sales or distribution, or growing plants with excessive yields.
- In general, the state Attorney General has given local authorities discretion in how they enforce Prop. 215, as explained in a letter to local law enforcement officials.