Anvanced nutrients ph perfect question?

patlpp

New Member
same thing with overdrive too? isnt this a huge plus that you can cut some additives, if i knew this i would of already switched
Overdrive I saw a signif improvement when I applied it to a LowRyder last 2 wks of flower. Why Beets me but B-52 is still up in the air with me.

PS: I guess why AN didn't boast that they really incorporated Big Bud into PH-Perfect is because BiG Bud is a HUGE seller on it's own. That's my point anout the AN HH PERFECT, Great base now. . It's 5 in one for sure.
 

tree king

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Overdrive I saw a signif improvement when I applied it to a LowRyder last 2 wks of flower. Why Beets me but B-52 is still up in the air with me.

PS: I guess why AN didn't boast that they really incorporated Big Bud into PH-Perfect is because BiG Bud is a HUGE seller on it's own. That's my point anout the AN HH PERFECT, Great base now. . It's 5 in one for sure.
what do you mean 5 in 1 im just seeing cutting out big bud and nirvana cause thats the humic and fulvic?
 

tree king

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patlpp

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thanks for all the info patipp. im getting the ph perfect next and cutting out the big bud. i just dont understand how you would use overdrive cause then your using it with big bud combined?..........
Remeber I said it "just changes the P/K proportions". Meaning just the aminos, not the P &K
 

homebrewer

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I tell you what HB, get away from rockwool and into coco, its the best of both worlds, 1g/watt easy !! . WIth that said, i am no way switching to dyna-gro until I find some way to save face .

I saw how U converted that eye guy with 33 posts, but it's gonna take a little more with me LOL
Rockwool, IMO, is far superior to coco but it's a little bit of apples-to-oranges. I'm also not trying to sell anyone on any particular brand. Once one has a decent understanding of the salts and the games some of these companies play, they can make their own educated choice as to what will work best for them.
 

Sensibowl

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Remeber I said it "just changes the P/K proportions". Meaning just the aminos, not the P &K
Well said, patlpp, thanks for passing on the information.

You make it much easier to understand that other folks do. No wonder why people are confusing about AN.

Me? Loving the Bigger Yields Expert Grower bundle.
 

Izoc666

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happy gardening and peace
 

jpill

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Your def. a beginner if your purchasing one of the AN bundle packages (even if it says Expert pack) but its cool, I remember my first beer. Simply speaking you get what you pay for. AN taxes the shit out of you but there product is one of the best. Probably THE best for Yield.

Sure you can pay less for cheaper nutrients - Dyno-grow to be exact, but put Dyna-grow up against AN and I bet AN kicks Dyna-grow's ass. Just learn which ones you need, which ones you don't and which you could possibly combine . My nutrients consist of a few diff. companies not just strictly one.

The only things that really actually hurts AN is how hard they market. I'm disgusted by how hard they try to sugar coat their nutrient especially on their webpage. A brief discription will suffice.
 

homebrewer

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Sure you can pay less for cheaper nutrients - Dyno-grow to be exact, but put Dyna-grow up against AN and I bet AN kicks Dyna-grow's ass. Just learn which ones you need, which ones you don't and which you could possibly combine . My nutrients consist of a few diff. companies not just strictly one.
I actually tested AN's Connoisseur in my hydro trays and it performed substantially worse than DynaGro in just about every category. Actually, the GH 3-part and H&G's Aqua Flakes all performed better than Connoisseur as well and all plants were being fed at the same EC with each of the different plant food brands.

In the grand scheme of things, environment and grower skill play a much bigger role than the brand of plant food. At the end of the day, it's your choice as to how much you want to pay for mineral salts dissolved in water but with AN, you're paying for hype and a marketing, not just salts.
 

patlpp

New Member
@HB is you root structure totally engulfed in the 6 " Rockwool or are there additional roots extruding out into the tray? I do see some algae on top of your cubes but I don't think it's that serious. Don't you have any root issues because I noticed these ebb/flow systems at the hydro stores have covers to protect the cubes and roots from the light?
 

jpill

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I actually tested AN's Connoisseur in my hydro trays and it performed substantially worse than DynaGro in just about every category. Actually, the GH 3-part and H&G's Aqua Flakes all performed better than Connoisseur as well and all plants were being fed at the same EC with each of the different plant food brands.

In the grand scheme of things, environment and grower skill play a much bigger role than the brand of plant food. At the end of the day, it's your choice as to how much you want to pay for mineral salts dissolved in water but with AN, you're paying for hype and a marketing, not just salts.

Did you add anything else besides AN's Connoisseur when you tested against GH's 3 part plus aqua flakes?
 

homebrewer

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@HB is you root structure totally engulfed in the 6 " Rockwool or are there additional roots extruding out into the tray? I do see some algae on top of your cubes but I don't think it's that serious. Don't you have any root issues because I noticed these ebb/flow systems at the hydro stores have covers to protect the cubes and roots from the light?
The roots don't travel outside of the 6" footprint of the block and I don't have root issues. I do notice that there is quite a bit of rootmass growing out of the bottom of the blocks when I'm harvesting.

Did you add anything else besides AN's Connoisseur when you tested against GH's 3 part plus aqua flakes?
I used a silica additive and two different PK booters with Connoisseur. Only one PK booster was used at a time but if you read through the journal in my signature, you'll notice that I made several changes during the grow because of how poorly Conni was performing in my hydro trays. I guess my point is that GH, DG and H&G were all consistent performers with zero surprises whereas Connoisseur under the same parameters performed terribly.
 

O'Shit

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i tried coni with the grand master schedule had problems the whole way yield sucked but best teasting by far. i now use superstoners botanicare recipie modified with hygrozime dry cool bloom bud ignighter and bush master. yeilds r around 1.5 a watt
 

patlpp

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i tried coni with the grand master schedule had problems the whole way yield sucked but best teasting by far. i now use superstoners botanicare recipie modified with hygrozime dry cool bloom bud ignighter and bush master. yeilds r around 1.5 a watt
O'shit !!! O'shit, how you getting 1.5g/watt? Explain ur setup and methods please . I am totally all ears. Is it over 4 wk veg ? I'm sure HB is watching too.
 

O'Shit

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my res is a 18 gal tote i fill it to the line or a little higher with ro water that is roughly 13g. i have the ss excel spread sheet for the first 2 weeks i add 20g worth of ferts from spread sheet then add 80mls bud ignighter and hygrozime. i also short the liquid carma roughly 20mls and add 30mls of nervana. i wont change the water for two weeks only add to it. i use a modified stink bud system that is 8 units thats 4 in each 5x5 post each post is 4' long and the second trelis net is 5'5" long. i run the water 24/7. the wholes r off centerd a little bit to the out side because its easer to grow towerds the middle. i use a 1000/ghr pump. if ur confused read part of havest a pound every three weeks and this will start to make sense. i will add to this latter
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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i tried coni with the grand master schedule had problems the whole way yield sucked but best teasting by far. i now use superstoners botanicare recipie modified with hygrozime dry cool bloom bud ignighter and bush master. yeilds r around 1.5 a watt
1.5gpw on a horizontal light setup. that sounds amazing. those would be the best numbers i've ever heard of. got any pics of your setup?
 
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