hexthat
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yeah what i have found to help is floral spraying with tap water.
BEST TOP NEWS STORY ~Mosaic Virus in Cannabis~
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hexthat
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do you have documentations of that to show the sheeple.Originally Posted by Nightmarecreature
TMV infected seeds can be used. Soak seeds in 10% Trisodium Phosphate ( Lowes carries it) for 20 min. The outside hull of the seed carries the virus. The inside of the seed does not. The Trisodium Phosphate will kill the virus. The only way to cure an infected plant is through tissue culturing. Using an extremely small but fast growing shoot will ensure a 90% TMV free plant. Blistering of the leaves on plants is a sure sign of TMV.
Extra Magnesium seems to keep it at bay. I foilar feed at 10% magnesium once a week. Don't go over 10% unless you want the leafs to dry out and get crispy. I have Chem D and according to I believe swerve, it tested positive for TMV at a University.
polyarcturus
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he is obviously spamming like you duh.
hexthat
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your the one spamming, needing proof of something that clearly exists. If you think other wise then what is causing this
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and quite frankly anything that you say from here on out im taking as false information
l8lDANKl8l
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talk about ignorance. great way to be close minded. A little more legitimate proof should be shown when asking for someone to pay for the tests other than hey theres a virusyour the one spamming, needing proof of something that clearly exists. If you think other wise then what is causing this
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and quite frankly anything that you say from here on out im taking as false information
considering theres about a billion factors that could cause trouble idk what could cause it. Do you? if you do back your information up thats all im saying. It doesnt matter what it is EVERYTHING requires proof nowadays so dont bitch about someone asking for it. Do you complain to your bank about needing proof? or an employer? either back your shit up or shut the fuck up. But dont get me wrong im not saying its not out there. I have done 0 research though so idk...................................
hexthat
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http://www.hempfood.com/iha/iha03111.htmltalk about ignorance. great way to be close minded. A little more legitimate proof should be shown when asking for someone to pay for the tests other than hey theres a virus
check out the pic of how big the virus is compair to other cannabis parts....
i actually dont want money from anyone nor do i need a test... I know. LMAO im just trying to educated all you mentally incompetent sheeple.
Nightmarecreature
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"TMV can easily overwinter on the seed coat, thus providing an inoculum source for the next planting cycle. Therefore, it is important to treat TMV-contaminated tobacco seed with a 10% solution of trisodium phosphate for 15 minutes. Alternatively, tomato seed contaminated with TMV can be incubated at 70°C/158°F for 2-4 days prior to planting. Both treatments will inactivate the virus that is on the seed coat, but should have little negative effect on seed germination."
It doesn't matter if the mother is infected or not, the virus will be on the hull of the seed. A mother who has HIV will not transmit it to the baby. The risks of the baby getting it during the birthing is when it happens. Milk is the best thing for inactiving the virus. Trisodium Phosphate penetrates the seed hull is the reason why it's used.
TMV is real! You don't get it from smoking tobacco, you get it from clones or insects, mainly aphids.
It doesn't matter if the mother is infected or not, the virus will be on the hull of the seed. A mother who has HIV will not transmit it to the baby. The risks of the baby getting it during the birthing is when it happens. Milk is the best thing for inactiving the virus. Trisodium Phosphate penetrates the seed hull is the reason why it's used.
TMV is real! You don't get it from smoking tobacco, you get it from clones or insects, mainly aphids.
hexthat
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maybe, never tested that
hexthat
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talk about ignorance. great way to be close minded. A little more legitimate proof should be shown when asking for someone to pay for the tests other than hey theres a virus
http://www.hempfood.com/iha/iha03111.html
polyarcturus
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NONONONONo BAD TROLL GO BACK TO YOUR BRIDGE AKA THE OTHER THREAD SO I CAN CONTINUE MY FUN WITH YOU.
polyarcturus
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BTW i not saying TMV doe not exist but cannabis mosaic virus does not.
hexthat
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what you are doing is spamming
HeartlandHank
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Wow. I don't feel like I have issues....?
I didn't say anything about evidence... I told you that all the test posts are of people saying it was negative. Then, you asked for "a link". So, I gave you several links of people saying they tested and it turned out negative. What were you expecting?
What I was saying is that I cannot find a single poster saying that they tested for TMV and it turned up positive. Also, the TMV symptoms are all symptoms that can come from other issues. So... I question how legitimate the Cannabis TMV threat is.
You don't speak/type to well. Maybe you don't read to well either...? I see you have the copy and paste thing down. I think you misunderstood and are getting your panties in a bunch over nothing more than conversation. I was at first thinking you knew a bit about TMV. After reading a little more I see I was wasting my time trying to talk with you.
"All of them links have no evidence"... If you are going to throw insults at someone, speak above a 4th grade level.
polyarcturus
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dont sink to his level hank i already have
he knows hes wrong he knows this scare tactic wont work and im gonna bust his balls forever if i have too.
HeartlandHank
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Damn, trolls get me every time. I should have read some of page 3.
Alright, Hexthat... come here... let me give you a treat. Good boy. Now go play.
Alright, Hexthat... come here... let me give you a treat. Good boy. Now go play.
monkeybones
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hexthat
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? those are new pics if you looked
MacGuyver4.2.0
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I have yet to see any bugs or virus that can survive steam cleaning (212 degrees) and or UV radiation cleaning. I will research this futher as well, thanks for the post.
MacGuyver4.2.0
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Ok I looked this up in my Ortho Problem Solver book and also online. There is a bit of mis-information being given in this thread and I just wanted to clarifu it for all. In particular you CANNOT spread TMV through the smoke of tobacco, period. More here:
Tobacco Mosaic Virus (YMV)
Gary W. Moorman, Professor of Plant Pathology
Tobacco mosaic virus (TMV) is named for one of the first plants in which it was found in the 1800s. However, it can infect well over 350 different species of plants. TMV is made up of a piece of nucleic acid (ribonucleic acid; RNA) and a surrounding protein coat. The complete virus is a submicroscopic, rigid, rod-shaped particle. Once inside the plant cell, the protein coat falls away and nucleic acid portion directs the plant cell to produce more virus nucleic acid and virus protein, disrupting the normal activity of the cell. TMV can multiply only inside a living cell but it can survive in a dormant state in dead tissue, retaining its ability to infect growing plants for years after the infected plant part died. Most other viruses die when the plant tissue dies.
The most important way that TMV can be spread from plant to plant is on workers' hands, clothing or on tools. This is called 'mechanical' transmission. When plants are handled, the tiny leaf hairs and some of the outer cells inevitably are damaged slightly and leak sap onto tools, hands, and clothing. If the sap contains TMV, it can be introduced into other plants when those come in contact with this sap. Sucking insects such as aphids do not spread TMV. Chewing insects such as grasshoppers and caterpillars occasionally spread the virus but are usually not important in spread. Vegetative propagation perpetuates TMV and other virus diseases. Cuttings taken from an infected plant usually are infected even if no symptoms are immediately exhibited by the cutting. The virus particles are found in all parts of the plant except the few cells at the tips of the growing points. Infected stock plants should be discarded immediately.
TMV can also survive outside the plant in sap that has dried on tools and other surfaces. If a TMV plant is handled and then you open a door with that hand, you have now put TMV on the door handle. The next person to open the door can pick up the TMV and spread it to any plant that they touch.
Tobacco products, particularly those containing air-cured tobacco, may carry TMV. Flue-cured tobacco, used in making cigarettes, is heated repeatedly during its processing, thereby inactivating most if not all TMV. When tobacco products are handled or kept in pockets, hands and clothing can become contaminated with TMV and be a source of virus. TMV is NOT spread in the smoke of burning tobacco.
Symptoms vary with the species of plant infected and the environmental conditions. In some cases environmental conditions bring out symptoms while other conditions mask or hide symptoms. Symptoms associated with TMV infections:
[h=3]Managing TMV[/h]No chemicals cure a virus-infected plant.
http://extension.psu.edu/plant-disease-factsheets/all-fact-sheets/tobacco-mosaic-virus-in-greenhouses
Tobacco Mosaic Virus (YMV)
Gary W. Moorman, Professor of Plant Pathology
Tobacco mosaic virus (TMV) is named for one of the first plants in which it was found in the 1800s. However, it can infect well over 350 different species of plants. TMV is made up of a piece of nucleic acid (ribonucleic acid; RNA) and a surrounding protein coat. The complete virus is a submicroscopic, rigid, rod-shaped particle. Once inside the plant cell, the protein coat falls away and nucleic acid portion directs the plant cell to produce more virus nucleic acid and virus protein, disrupting the normal activity of the cell. TMV can multiply only inside a living cell but it can survive in a dormant state in dead tissue, retaining its ability to infect growing plants for years after the infected plant part died. Most other viruses die when the plant tissue dies.
The most important way that TMV can be spread from plant to plant is on workers' hands, clothing or on tools. This is called 'mechanical' transmission. When plants are handled, the tiny leaf hairs and some of the outer cells inevitably are damaged slightly and leak sap onto tools, hands, and clothing. If the sap contains TMV, it can be introduced into other plants when those come in contact with this sap. Sucking insects such as aphids do not spread TMV. Chewing insects such as grasshoppers and caterpillars occasionally spread the virus but are usually not important in spread. Vegetative propagation perpetuates TMV and other virus diseases. Cuttings taken from an infected plant usually are infected even if no symptoms are immediately exhibited by the cutting. The virus particles are found in all parts of the plant except the few cells at the tips of the growing points. Infected stock plants should be discarded immediately.
TMV can also survive outside the plant in sap that has dried on tools and other surfaces. If a TMV plant is handled and then you open a door with that hand, you have now put TMV on the door handle. The next person to open the door can pick up the TMV and spread it to any plant that they touch.
Tobacco products, particularly those containing air-cured tobacco, may carry TMV. Flue-cured tobacco, used in making cigarettes, is heated repeatedly during its processing, thereby inactivating most if not all TMV. When tobacco products are handled or kept in pockets, hands and clothing can become contaminated with TMV and be a source of virus. TMV is NOT spread in the smoke of burning tobacco.
Symptoms vary with the species of plant infected and the environmental conditions. In some cases environmental conditions bring out symptoms while other conditions mask or hide symptoms. Symptoms associated with TMV infections:
- stunting
- mosaic pattern of light and dark green (or yellow and green) on the leaves
- malformation of leaves or growing points
- yellow streaking of leaves (especially monocots)
- yellow spotting on leaves
- distinct yellowing only of veins
[h=3]Managing TMV[/h]No chemicals cure a virus-infected plant.
- Purchase virus-free plants.
- Remove all weeds since these may harbor TMV.
- Remove all crop debris from benches and the greenhouse structure.
- Set aside plants with the above symptoms and obtain a diagnosis.
- Discard infected plants.
- Disinfest tools by placing them in disinfectant for at least 10 min. Rinse thoroughly with tap water. Disinfest door handles and other greenhouse structures that may have become contaminated by wiping thoroughly with one of these materials.
- Propagate plants via seed rather than vegetatively.
- Thoroughly wash hands after handling tobacco products or TMV-infected plants.
- Do not keep tobacco products in the pockets of clothing worn into the greenhouse. Launder greenhouse work clothes regularly.
http://extension.psu.edu/plant-disease-factsheets/all-fact-sheets/tobacco-mosaic-virus-in-greenhouses