LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

Fonzarelli

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I have a 400w horti blue with mag ballast. Unfortunately I only have a 1000w electronic ballast right now so I won't be getting a 1000w blue mh anytime soon. I do like my 400w'r. I don't understand why the hortilux's are so finicky in a digi. Most of the aquarium MH do great in e. balllasts. Never had one not fire to this day. With the horti blue it wouldn't fire up 1/2 the time. Hope to be budding under LEDs soon anyway as long as my spectrum choice works well. I'm fairly confident it will.
 

hyroot

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I ran hortilux in my 1000 never had a problem. Its a Quantum ballast. . Thats the only one I would ever use for hid.
 

Fonzarelli

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Would a Coralife Colormax be a good choice for flowering? My local pet store has them on sale for $10.
Yeah, $10 is a steal. Buy as many as you can. Then mix them 50/50 to some UVL 660nm and you got yourself a great budding spectrum. I haven't flowered with it yet, but it works in veg. It's a really nice color. Should work really great for budding. Give it a try! Post some photos.
 

Fonzarelli

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I ran hortilux in my 1000 never had a problem. Its a Quantum ballast. . Thats the only one I would ever use for hid.
Aww, fuck, I purchased a 1000w Galaxy a long time ago. I definitely would rather have a Quantum. Might have to give a 400w Quantum a go and use it with my 400w Hortilux Blue. Not sure if they even make a 400w.
 

Fonzarelli

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I got some hexarc ocean blue samples for free. They are practically identical to aquablue specials from ATI. So if they are cheaper, it's an alternative. Not sure how much they will be when they are released.
 

hyroot

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Aww, fuck, I purchased a 1000w Galaxy a long time ago. I definitely would rather have a Quantum. Might have to give a 400w Quantum a go and use it with my 400w Hortilux Blue. Not sure if they even make a 400w.
Quantum does a 400. Get it from discount hydro. They own quantum and everything else. R&M supply, c.a.p.,, max lume, ushio, digilux, and a some others I cant think of.

The sales manager even matched ebay prices on the badboys. I said to them. You own it so you should be able to.beat anyones price. That worked. Surprisingly.....
 

hyroot

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I got some hexarc ocean blue samples for free. They are practically identical to aquablue specials from ATI. So if they are cheaper, it's an alternative. Not sure how much they will be when they are released.
Same price. Marine depot has both for $18.99
 

PetFlora

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LV I think most of the early subbesr have learned what they needed and moved on. Several of us have our own journal/threads to follow
 

jsamuel24

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LV I think most of the early subbesr have learned what they needed and moved on. Several of us have our own journal/threads to follow
Yeah it seems like most of us that posted alot in here got tired of the bickering from the trolls that would come in and say what we are or were doing wasnt worth it, at least thats why i stoped posting in here so much.

Snoogins
 

novice11

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Veg is my area of expertise when it comes to T5's. {{ For my blue loving Sativas}} I'm using 2 of the 660nm UVL, 1 TrueLumen 460nm, 1 UVL 75/25 for the deep blue(I question if the deep blue is even beneficial anymore.) I've also had really nice growth with a Flora Sun in place of the 75/25.

For my Indicas I'm using a 8-lamp 2 foot fixture that has 4 florasun, 2 redsun, 2 super actinic.(I also use ati blue plus in place of the super actinic for a "bluer" effect.)

May be different for you depending on strain you have. Try either one and go with the one they like best. All the plants really like the 660nm UVL's, just mix at a ratio that still gives you enough blue and red. Start with 1:1 blue/red and move your way red until the plants respond the best. Most of the lamps we use already have most of the key peaks in the Tri-band phosphors so there is little to worry about.
Thanks!! My tardy response aside, a big LIKE to you.
 

novice11

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I AM THOMAS POLE!!!!!

J/K. Actually I just purchased a new spectrometer today. It is accurate to + or - 1nm. We will see just how right I am in a few days. I'm sure you will still have your doubts though. You seem to doubt a lot actually.

I think those reef geeks tend to know a little(A LOT) more than us when it comes to aquarium lamps. After all, they've been in the industry longer than any of us have even been growing I'm sure. Those Aquaristik folk tend to know dar sheeznit.
Wondering if you have tried to "SPEC" out a FIJI yet.....wondering what spectrum it actually has.
 

scotchtape51

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For someone flowering with a 4ft 8bulb fixture with all 8 bulbs being the red/flowering color would there be a notable increase in quality or quantity switching to 6red/2blue? A 2ft 4 bulb fixture is available as side lighting, but It has only blue/veg bulbs. Would it be worth the cost of electricity to use the little fixture as a sidelight(24 watts X 4 bulbs = 96 watts )? Is that too much blue?
 

jsamuel24

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For someone flowering with a 4ft 8bulb fixture with all 8 bulbs being the red/flowering color would there be a notable increase in quality or quantity switching to 6red/2blue? A 2ft 4 bulb fixture is available as side lighting, but It has only blue/veg bulbs. Would it be worth the cost of electricity to use the little fixture as a sidelight(24 watts X 4 bulbs = 96 watts )? Is that too much blue?
Me personaly I would add the extra lighting, but change one of the blues in it out for a flora sun. Just my opinion though.

Snoogins
 
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