How come no outrage over private prisons?

ChesusRice

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Anyone notice the exponential expansion of private prisons in this country over the last decade?
or County sherriffs trying to keep head counts up for $$$ in their facilities?
 

chrishydro

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Private Prisions save the Taxpayers Hundreds of Millions. It also keeps the Sherifs departments out of harms way, no reason to deal with Unions that have torn down the economy and ruined orgs all over the country.

It is simply an outsource move that works for the taxpayer. My brother in law did 4 years in one here and then they transfered him to a State Prision and he commented it was no dif. Lock up is Lock up he said, we eat the same, we sit in the cell, go to the yard and if we break a rule they lock us up alone and take our shit, that simple. Lock up is Lock up. It sucks but you gonna do the crime (trust me he was caught red handed) you do the time.
 

ChesusRice

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Private Prisions save the Taxpayers Hundreds of Millions. It also keeps the Sherifs departments out of harms way, no reason to deal with Unions that have torn down the economy and ruined orgs all over the country.

It is simply an outsource move that works for the taxpayer. .
Wow
Just Wow
You do realize that the private prison industry also lobbys for harsher sentences for everything including "drug" crimes
And have even gone so far as to give kick backs to judges for clientele
 

Moses Mobetta

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Wow
Just Wow
You do realize that the private prison industry also lobbys for harsher sentences for everything including "drug" crimes
And have even gone so far as to give kick backs to judges for clientele
Prisons are one of our nations new leading industries. A nonprofit I worked for went into the prisons and worked with inmates, many of them gang members of latin descent. We discovered the prison program to teach these inmates English couldn't teach me English. When the gang violence dropped to almost zero we were then accused of organizing the gangs and told we were not welcome back. The Prison Industry is very corrupt.
 

ChesusRice

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Prisons are one of our nations new leading industries. A nonprofit I worked for went into the prisons and worked with inmates, many of them gang members of latin descent. We discovered the prison program to teach these inmates English couldn't teach me English. When the gang violence dropped to almost zero we were then accused of organizing the gangs and told we were not welcome back. The Prison Industry is very corrupt.
But chrishydro says it's ok becuase somehow it hurts the unions
and that makes it worth it
 

deprave

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Private Prisions save the Taxpayers Hundreds of Millions. It also keeps the Sherifs departments out of harms way, no reason to deal with Unions that have torn down the economy and ruined orgs all over the country.

It is simply an outsource move that works for the taxpayer. My brother in law did 4 years in one here and then they transfered him to a State Prision and he commented it was no dif. Lock up is Lock up he said, we eat the same, we sit in the cell, go to the yard and if we break a rule they lock us up alone and take our shit, that simple. Lock up is Lock up. It sucks but you gonna do the crime (trust me he was caught red handed) you do the time.

We have the highest prison population in the world by percentage of the population, over 50% are incarcerated. I seriously doubt over half of americans belong in prison.

Ofcourse your own fucking family was a victim and you don't realize this. So not sure if I will get through to you.

The more prisoners they have the more money they make...They make so much money they lobby for tougher laws...To ENSLAVE PEOPLE WHO COMMITED VICTIMLESS CRIMES THAT HARMED NOT A SOUL AND IMPRISON THEM INTO A SYSTEM THAT ACCOMPLISHES NOTHING BUT INHUMANE TREATMENT OF HUMAN BEINGS AS IF THEY ARE ANIMALS AND NEVER LEADS TO RECOVERY

Big fucking problem...
 

pottscreek

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Do people stop and think what life might have been like if we never had unions??? jezzz
Outsourcing prisions is wrong.
If it was that good everyone would open one, we would be hearing that LA county shuting them down.
If I was driven by greed, of course I would open one. Sounds like easy money, I'm surprised Marriott dosen't have the market already.
 

ChesusRice

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Yesterday, the Justice Policy Institute (JPI) released a report chronicling the political strategies of private prison companies “working to make money through harsh policies and longer sentences.” The report’s authors note that while the total number of people in prison increased less than 16 percent, the number of people held in private federal and state facilities increased by 120 and 33 percent, correspondingly. Government spending on corrections has soared since 1997 by 72 percent, up to $74 billion in 2007. And the private prison industry has raked in tremendous profits. Last year the two largest private prison companies — Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) and GEO Group — made over $2.9 billion in revenue.JPI claims the private industry hasn’t merely responded to the nation’s incarceration woes, it has actively sought to create the market conditions (ie. more prisoners) necessary to expand its business.


According to JPI, the private prison industry uses three strategies to influence public policy: lobbying, direct campaign contributions, and networking. The three main companies have contributed $835,514 to federal candidates and over $6 million to state politicians. They have also spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on direct lobbying efforts. CCA has spent over $900,000 on federal lobbying and GEO spent anywhere from $120,000 to $199,992 in Florida alone during a short three-month span this year. Meanwhile, “the relationship between government officials and private prison companies has been part of the fabric of the industry from the start,” notes the report. The cofounder of CCA himself used to be the chairman of the Tennessee Republican Party.


The impact that the private prison industry has had is hard to deny. In Arizona, 30 of the 36 legislators who co-sponsored the state’s controversial immigration law that would undoubtedly put more immigrants behind bars received campaign contributions from private prison lobbyists or companies. Private prison businesses been involved in lobbying efforts related to a bill in Florida that would require privatizing all of the prisons in South Florida and have been heavily involved in appropriations bills on the federal level.
 

deprave

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Yesterday, the Justice Policy Institute (JPI) released a report chronicling the political strategies of private prison companies “working to make money through harsh policies and longer sentences.” The report’s authors note that while the total number of people in prison increased less than 16 percent, the number of people held in private federal and state facilities increased by 120 and 33 percent, correspondingly. Government spending on corrections has soared since 1997 by 72 percent, up to $74 billion in 2007. And the private prison industry has raked in tremendous profits. Last year the two largest private prison companies — Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) and GEO Group — made over $2.9 billion in revenue.JPI claims the private industry hasn’t merely responded to the nation’s incarceration woes, it has actively sought to create the market conditions (ie. more prisoners) necessary to expand its business.


According to JPI, the private prison industry uses three strategies to influence public policy: lobbying, direct campaign contributions, and networking. The three main companies have contributed $835,514 to federal candidates and over $6 million to state politicians. They have also spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on direct lobbying efforts. CCA has spent over $900,000 on federal lobbying and GEO spent anywhere from $120,000 to $199,992 in Florida alone during a short three-month span this year. Meanwhile, “the relationship between government officials and private prison companies has been part of the fabric of the industry from the start,” notes the report. The cofounder of CCA himself used to be the chairman of the Tennessee Republican Party.


The impact that the private prison industry has had is hard to deny. In Arizona, 30 of the 36 legislators who co-sponsored the state’s controversial immigration law that would undoubtedly put more immigrants behind bars received campaign contributions from private prison lobbyists or companies. Private prison businesses been involved in lobbying efforts related to a bill in Florida that would require privatizing all of the prisons in South Florida and have been heavily involved in appropriations bills on the federal level.
And take a look at OpenSecrets.org see whos getting this money......Sorry to say it cause you hate him so much but Ron Paul is one of the few that doesn't take money for shit like this, he is totally against private prisons and thats one of his main issues.

Which contrary to what you believe....thats "hes a racist"....he is one of the few in congress always standing up for the miniorities on this, by far the drug war is what allows racist police and prosecutors to incarcaerate improvished minitories by raiding projects and planting drugs on them, then they can't aford a lawyer and are tricked into plea bargaining felonies for lighter sentences. This is the source of much of the racism in this country, the drug war, and corrupt police.

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wait for it.......
 

pottscreek

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Anyone notice the exponential expansion of private prisons in this country over the last decade?
or County sherriffs trying to keep head counts up for $$$ in their facilities?
You know, i was in a wonderful mood, un-pissed, and haven't even smoked yet, thanks for making me smoke so early.
 

Moses Mobetta

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Once you see how legislators fit into this picture with the sherrifs - it really changed the way I see them. Slave labor camps and the works.
 

beenthere

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The only difference I see with private prisons is, now we have private sector lobbyists instead of union lobbyists.

Prison over crowding has been a US problem longer than most of us have been on this earth.
Like all of our injustices, it lies with our government, we don't elect private sector corporations to serve and protect the people or legislate laws. So don't blame the lobbyists, blame the government that allows them to lobby.
 

ChesusRice

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The only difference I see with private prisons is, now we have private sector lobbyists instead of union lobbyists.

Prison over crowding has been a US problem longer than most of us have been on this earth.
Like all of our injustices, it lies with our government, we don't elect private sector corporations to serve and protect the people or legislate laws. So don't blame the lobbyists, blame the government that allows them to lobby.
Prison overcrowding is the direct result of "get tough on crime" politicians who think making laws harsher somehow = them actually solving problems
 

Moses Mobetta

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Prison overcrowding is the direct result of "get tough on crime" politicians who think making laws harsher somehow = them actually solving problems
Say a person gets convicted of anything. Depending on the crime. Now it's harder to get a job with a record and more likely for them to engage in illegal activity in order to survive.
 

Moses Mobetta

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Which exemplifies the point that government is the root of the problem!
This is not a government that loves it's citizens and treats them with compassion. If it were it would act accordingly. It is an oppressive government. Sure it's worse in other places but that doesn't say much. This isn't supposed to be only the land for the rich.
 
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