gun law reform... please!

[canndo]

There is no "Right" to carry a gun in a national park, there is the privilege. Presidents don't have the power to create rights.

If the government didn't fear firearms, then why do they use them?

FYI you still cannot arm yourself in 20 of those national parks.

FYI it wasn't Obama that got us to be able to carry in parks, that job was done by Senator Tom Coburn. And then only because of the Supreme Court decision. Just because the president signs it into law doesn't mean that he alone was responsible for the law in the first place.

I don't think I am equiped to argue your point there Nodrama - I am forced to agree with you

and no, Obama isn't solely responsible for the law, but he did sign it.


If the government didn't fear firearms why do THEY use them? I mean to say the government doesn't fear firearms in the hands of citizens.

 

[NoDrama]

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LMAO James Holmes had $20,000 worth of Arms? LMAO NO HE DID NOT!!!!!! Stop believing all the stupid SHIT the Media tells you. An AR-15 costs $750, a 100 round mag costs $100. A Sig P226 costs $900. The padded protective gear ran about $200 and all the ammo costs less than $200. Does that even come anywhere close to $20,000????

No, more like $2,500.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

LMAO James Holmes had $20,000 worth of Arms? LMAO NO HE DID NOT!!!!!! Stop believing all the stupid SHIT the Media tells you. An AR-15 costs $750, a 100 round mag costs $100. A Sig P226 costs $900. The padded protective gear ran about $200 and all the ammo costs less than $200. Does that even come anywhere close to $20,000????

No, more like $2,500.

Must be using the same evaluation they use for determining weight on MJ busts.

 

[NoDrama]

Must be using the same evaluation they use for determining weight on MJ busts.

lol yep. The MSM is a bunch of fairy tale tellers. First Holmes had full bullet proof body armor ( He had NONE of that), now he has $20,000 worth of assault weapons on him. This shit gets deeper everyday.

You want sensationalism? Say Holmes had a nuclear sling shot and killed 42,000 people with it in a single shot.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

lol yep. The MSM is a bunch of fairy tale tellers. First Holmes had full bullet proof body armor ( He had NONE of that), now he has $20,000 worth of assault weapons on him. This shit gets deeper everyday.

You want sensationalism? Say Holmes had a nuclear sling shot and killed 42,000 people with it in a single shot.

We need to ban nuclear slingshots! They kill people!

 

[beenthere]

Gays want to get married and the right does not what them to do so. Simple as that.What rights conservatives want taken from women? The right to do as they please with their own body and the right to have their health concerns be between themselves and their Doctor.

The rest is changing the subject Beenthere, this was not about taxes or your conjecture about liberal behavior "if it were left up to liberals".

Your new "right" to carry firearms in national parks happens to be a right that this president "gave" you.

Show me some proof Beenthere, that this government "does" fear our firearms.

Just as I said, it's not only the right do not believe in gay marriage, like you want people to believe my friend, there are many moderates who feel the same. If you fail to grasp that, explain why gay marriage propositions consistently get voted down in so many states????

Other than the few fringe radicals, the right could care less about women having abortions or using contraceptions, why can't you be honest and admit they just don't want to be taxed more to pay for it, being disingenuous only discredits your opinion.

I thought I might change the subject as you did, after all, this thread was about gun reform if I'm not mistaken, not conservatives vs. gay and women's rights, wouldn't you agree?

And I'll show you proof the government fears our guns, right after you prove the do not!

 

[Dr Kynes]

We need to ban nuclear slingshots! They kill people!

in a shocking turn, california has repealed it's ban on ray guns, death rays, phasors, lasers, masers, particle accelerator guns and energy beam weapons!!!

they were banned for a decade but now the laws have been repealed! woe unto us all!! now the alien invaders are free to come from mars without fear of violating california penal code when they enslave us to work in their subterranean vespene gas mines!

 

[canndo]

in a shocking turn, california has repealed it's ban on ray guns, death rays, phasors, lasers, masers, particle accelerator guns and energy beam weapons!!!

they were banned for a decade but now the laws have been repealed! woe unto us all!! now the alien invaders are free to come from mars without fear of violating california penal code when they enslave us to work in their subterranean vespene gas mines!

I TOLD you he was an alien - DAMN that Obama.

 

[Dr Kynes]

I TOLD you he was an alien - DAMN that Obama.

Barack "Luuhr Emperor of Omicron Perseie Eight" Obama may in fact be an alien from mars (Ack AckAck AckAck Ack!!) but this was all the doing of the california legislature and Jerry "MoonBeam" (maybe Ray-Beam now amirite?)Brown most likely because there was a blanket prohibition on all energy weapons save conducted energy weapons, and the bureau of prisons wants to experiment with an active denial system for riots which would have been impossible under the previous laws.

 

[NoDrama]

(ack ackack ackack ack!!)

lololololololol

 

[cannabineer]

We need to ban nuclear slingshots! They kill people!

The backfires are the most heart-wrenching. cn

 

[beardo]

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[budlover13]

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That's a job for MythBusters!

(Actually, i just wanna see more of Kari)

 

[FootballFirst]

any fight between the government and citizens would ultimately be guerilla warfare just like the war for our independence.

 

[canndo]

any fight between the government and citizens would ultimately be guerilla warfare just like the war for our independence.

and the government has been honing its skills for guerilla warfare and for control of riots and for urban warfare for as long as 40 years.

 

[NoDrama]

and the government has been honing its skills for guerilla warfare and for control of riots and for urban warfare for as long as 40 years.

Except you have to remember it is government. The same government that said they could never envision terrorists flying airplanes into a building, yet that happened, and the FAA, the US Military and every single person in government wasn't able to do one little fucking thing to affect that outcome was there? Total failure of every single defense system the government has.

I tell ya, if you can just hijack an airplane and fly it around for an hour and then fly it into a building and NO ONE tries to stop you? LOL, I wouldn't put too much faith in government being competent enough to round up more than 2 or 3 dissidents.

Look around, do you see any politicians NOT acting like Morons? All the smart people aren't in government.

 

[Dirty Harry]

No such thing as kitchen table gun dealers anymore
You must of been in it like 20 years ago

I am not sure if your talking to me, but that is right for when I held my FFL. That was before they changed the rules requiring a brick and mortar shop. Back then, you could operate out of a dedicated room in your residence. And the FFL was CHEAP then, $30 for three years.

 

[NoDrama]

I am not sure if your talking to me, but that is right for when I held my FFL. That was before they changed the rules requiring a brick and mortar shop. Back then, you could operate out of a dedicated room in your residence. And the FFL was CHEAP then, $30 for three years.

You can still run a room out of your home for the purposes of selling guns with a FFL License. What makes you think you can't? Get firearms instructor certification or certification as a gunsmith and there is no problem. Being a certified gunsmith isn't very difficult.

 

[Dirty Harry]

You can still run a room out of your home for the purposes of selling guns with a FFL License. What makes you think you can't? Get firearms instructor certification or certification as a gunsmith and there is no problem. Being a certified gunsmith isn't very difficult.

You may be right. I got out when the rules where changing. At that time, they wanted a dedicated location...but since I was out of the business, I stopped keeping up with the FFL laws.

A few pages back you mentioned not being able to ban dirt and wood for the making of explosives.

If one is a farmer, you have access to the more restricted fertilizers. Farmers put nitrates on their fields. It it not difficult to extract potassium nitrate out of farm soil. Time consuming, but not difficult at all. Potassium nitrate is also the main ingredient in powder stump remover. Sulfur? It is a soil additive that can be purchased by the bag full from garden centers, and sulfur is benign by itself.

Hell, you mix the right (or wrong) pool chemicals, you can make them explode and release toxic gas.

Some fireworks I make require nitrocellulose. Nitro in the name makes it sound dangerous...most brands of PING PONG BALLS are made 100% of it and dissolve very quickly in acetone. Take a ping pong ball and set it on fire. If it burns fast, bright, and leaves little to no ash, it is nitrocellulose. I used to make napalm by dissolving Styrofoam in gasoline to make a thick sticky and very flammable goo.

If they are able to get my firearms, I have the knowledge and ability to make things more dangerous than a semi automatic rifle or handgun.

With firearms, snipers say one shot one kill. With one explosive, one blast can be dozens or hundreds.
Removing firearms may actually make those who want to kill have to improvise more deadly and effective means to get the job done.

 

[NoDrama]

You can get all the ingrediants to make RDX from dirt.