Ztelthys 100W HPS TV Cabinet Conversion (Pimped Out !!!)

Ztelthy

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Next I need to make a Mogule fixture to hold the lamp in place and get it wired in :) wish me luck :) - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

Southtexasman87

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Get socket get some plumbers tape it's a metal strip thats in a rool will cost u like 2 bucks home dpot or blows and put the ends in the clamp that holds the tu lube up that's what I did
 

Ztelthy

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Get socket get some plumbers tape it's a metal strip thats in a rool will cost u like 2 bucks home dpot or blows and put the ends in the clamp that holds the tu lube up that's what I did
Cheers Southtaexasman87 I'll prob do that...or summink real similar :) - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

Ztelthy

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the filter needs to be up top
Not the way I'am setting this up :) The Odor Soc filter is only there to stop back-draft/s and stops fluff/dirt/grit n bugs etc from entering the Grow-sector ..The lighting is on a separate rig, and I have a carbon filter up top,,sucking the air back out.. I've done this before on my other larger cab I made and it works perfectly :) - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

Matchbox

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A lot of ventilation for such a small amount of light :), my 4 incher is about that big! they're bloody huge. That setup could cool a 250w EASY and a 400w at the top end :) is the reason your not going any bigger energy worries or just fancy a low wattage challenge? And if that cab is going to be airtighed (or as near as) you could get away with a passive intake instead of those fans.

OR is the big 4" fan for the carbon filter on the out-take? (in which case my bad and ignore the 1st part of the 1st paragraph) I was thinking you'll have the massive 4" one and the bathroom one on the cool tube lol overkill XD

And to be useful, I think the Venture bulbs put out quite a few more lumens but the philips put out a better spectrum and run a bit cooler... don't hold me to that, but i think it's about right :)
 

Ztelthy

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A lot of ventilation for such a small amount of light :), my 4 incher is about that big! they're bloody huge. That setup could cool a 250w EASY and a 400w at the top end :) is the reason your not going any bigger energy worries or just fancy a low wattage challenge? And if that cab is going to be airtighed (or as near as) you could get away with a passive intake instead of those fans.

OR is the big 4" fan for the carbon filter on the out-take? (in which case my bad and ignore the 1st part of the 1st paragraph) I was thinking you'll have the massive 4" one and the bathroom one on the cool tube lol overkill XD

And to be useful, I think the Venture bulbs put out quite a few more lumens but the philips put out a better spectrum and run a bit cooler... don't hold me to that, but i think it's about right :)

Yeah man! ..these hot days we've been having has been a bitch to deal with - in the 'Grow-room' so this prompted me to do this project, Your right :) it could easily be adapted to run a 250/400W lamp but I have a different cab that does that... I'll post a pic of that l8r just to show ya'll lol :) ...I kinda like the idea of using a low Watt HPS.... I wonder what that baby can do :) :) ..yeah the reason for the low watt is my other cab needs AC to run during Summer months.. and I wanted to do a Project that would work well without AC and still deliver CFL topping HID 'Buds'...

I'am not bothered about power consumption or anything :) ..I just want a hassle free Cab for warm weather buds :) I figured a 70W would defo be under doing a cab this size, and a 150W at the time seemed a bit much...so I figured..I'd work up...I'd start with the 100W and then possibly add the 70W lamp as well to the same tube - delivering 170W Dual Spec MH/HPS and only then if temps allow it I'll upstage to a 150W, then again add the 70W HPS to make 220W HPS/MH ...then upstage to a 250W HPS..then add the 70W MH = 320W MH/HPS until I get to a DUAL-ARC 400W HPS :) :) :) .... lmao... but for now I am just gonna try out the 100 Watter .. to test it :)

It'll defo be air tight when in operation... so's to speak.. I just figure the more air-movement the better the control of temps...I'am also gonna get a Thermostat in there :) .. I bought a UVB lamp/holder/fixture but may have to scrap that idea or find a smaller replacement given the elevated space (headroom in cab) the 18W tube wont fit... I do have a couple of ideas up my sleeve, so I wont give in just yet :)

"Yeah man :) the big 4" fan is for the Carbon Filter lol... I was thinking of getting a 2nd small white 4" in-line fan - 1 at either end of the cool-tube, this seems like a good idea to me...I can have the furthest fan on the Thermostat..and it can kick in and speed up if the Grow-Room temps excel 26oc ..I may also add a small 12" Bar heater just in-case the temps do/did take a dive :)

I'll check on those lamps, but cheers for the heads-up! :)

Stay tuned more mods coming soon !! :) :) :) - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

Matchbox

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Ok cool, all makes sense now! Though temps aren't too bad, it's been about 26-30 but my cab with the lights on stays around 27-35 max (with the LED and 45w Fluoro tube) and the plants seem ok so far... When I put the 250w on with the cool tube and turn off the LED and fluoro the temps go down to a comfy 23-30 max, and if I put the fan on with the LED and fluoro temps are a good 20-26 max. But I can't have the fan on during the veg cycle because it's so loud for so long, and energy use is an issue for me... whole grow ideally needs to work out at a max of 500w (just 'cause these electric meters cost a fortune).

And are any other UK'ers sick of these poxy bloody Olympics? Nothing else on TV...

Anyway that's enough crap from me, I look forward to the Monday madness update XD
 

Ztelthy

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Ok cool, all makes sense now! Though temps aren't too bad, it's been about 26-30 but my cab with the lights on stays around 27-35 max (with the LED and 45w Fluoro tube) and the plants seem ok so far... When I put the 250w on with the cool tube and turn off the LED and fluoro the temps go down to a comfy 23-30 max, and if I put the fan on with the LED and fluoro temps are a good 20-26 max. But I can't have the fan on during the veg cycle because it's so loud for so long, and energy use is an issue for me... whole grow ideally needs to work out at a max of 500w (just 'cause these electric meters cost a fortune).

And are any other UK'ers sick of these poxy bloody Olympics? Nothing else on TV...

Anyway that's enough crap from me, I look forward to the Monday madness update XD
Cool man! ...I'am just chillin' listening to that 'Now that's what I call Reggae cd' :) Woke up with a few beers and a wake-n-bake doob n having been chillin' out in the garden with a BBQ n my familly :) nice times... just caned a king of 'Herer' Mmmm.Mmm :) !! and now another beer n some BBQ food...plus got yellow lense shades on feel well mellow/happy mate :) Summer's a bitch - eh!? lmao :) .. MONDAY UPDATE coming soon :) - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

Ztelthy

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Ok cool, all makes sense now! Though temps aren't too bad, it's been about 26-30 but my cab with the lights on stays around 27-35 max (with the LED and 45w Fluoro tube) and the plants seem ok so far... When I put the 250w on with the cool tube and turn off the LED and fluoro the temps go down to a comfy 23-30 max, and if I put the fan on with the LED and fluoro temps are a good 20-26 max. But I can't have the fan on during the veg cycle because it's so loud for so long, and energy use is an issue for me... whole grow ideally needs to work out at a max of 500w (just 'cause these electric meters cost a fortune).

And are any other UK'ers sick of these poxy bloody Olympics? Nothing else on TV...

Anyway that's enough crap from me, I look forward to the Monday madness update XD
PS/ Yeah the Olympics sucks man... its well boring I'd rather be chillin with loved ones than watch that crap lol :) - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

Ztelthy

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My 100W MH just arrived :) ...still need to sort out a lamp holder, and the Ceramic Cup Mogule I have is to wide and wont allow good air-flow so... I need to track down a thinner/low profile bulb holder then I can get started :) That'll be my mission for today :) ....along with another 4" bathroom extractor fan. - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

Ztelthy

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*** MONDAY UPDATE #1 ***



I decided to use these 'L' Brackets....well one of them actually and figured a simple bend should work perfectly for a lamp holder...




My next task was to get a replacement E-40 fitting since my Mogule (left) was/is far to wide for getting good air-flow in the 4" diameter cool-tube, so I managed to salvage this (on the right) from an old Flora-Nova Reflector at my local store..




The home-made clip held/holds the lamp & fitting perfectly, its centred and sturdy :) :) :)




I had this old HID Lamp-Case laying around and decided to try n make a reflector for the front of my cool-tube...




I marked off where I wanted, and trimmed the metal-sheet










I then folded the edge of the DIY reflector down to help me avoid making direct eye-contact with the light when the Cab-Doors are opened..




Not looking too shabby !? :) :)




Next I wired the 100W Ballast..




I kept my fingers crossed as the 100W Ballast attempted to fire-up the 100W HPS Lamp...




...and was very happy with the result :)




Then I attempted to fire up a 100W MH using the same Ballast...





The MH fired up.....But kept flickering really annoyingly, Then I switched the Ballast off and on again....and this time - nothing :( :( :( I dunno why the MH had problems starting ? :( But at least it still works with the HPS!




Next I decided - its time to add CPU Fans to the grow-shelf for elevated ariation to the under-side of the plants leaves etc..





Both of the large fans went in with minimal effort :)




Just took another snap to look back on...s'lookin good :) !!




I then decided to cover my 5L Res with Silver Tape...





I've purposly left the front face un-covered so I can see the roots etc...But this section will be covered with a square of vinyl to keep the light out during lights-on




Lastly I picked up a 2nd in-line bathroom fan for the 4" Cool-Tube..the fitting is not quite right so I will have to modify it or change it over... Still that's a job for this week... Hope you enjoyed the UPDATE, I am off to do some more work on my TV Cab now, Peace - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

jumpman233345

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Hi , 1st time poster on this forum, I am trying to gain as much info as possible as i intend to start a first build ASAP

at first i was considering a PC grow but then i am now back in favour ov a chest/box setup so there is not only more space but so i can add carbon filter and use a nice 100-150w HPS for veg and flower. Will there be ANY odor escaping what so ever on your build???

I have just found this on ikeas web site, do you think this has the right dimensions to construct something very similar to this setup? http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/50163754/ I will be trying to grow with soil and not hydo like you are.

This must be the best setup i have seen thus far i must say, and the light fitting is a work of art ,.i hope to learn a lot from your build..... please keep up the good work and inspire others like myself
 

Ztelthy

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Hi , 1st time poster on this forum, I am trying to gain as much info as possible as i intend to start a first build ASAP

at first i was considering a PC grow but then i am now back in favour ov a chest/box setup so there is not only more space but so i can add carbon filter and use a nice 100-150w HPS for veg and flower. Will there be ANY odor escaping what so ever on your build???

I have just found this on ikeas web site, do you think this has the right dimensions to construct something very similar to this setup? http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/50163754/ I will be trying to grow with soil and not hydo like you are.

This must be the best setup i have seen thus far i must say, and the light fitting is a work of art ,.i hope to learn a lot from your build..... please keep up the good work and inspire others like myself

I too was gunna do a PC Grow..but in the end gave up and concentrated on getting a half-decent yield from a slightly bigger setup. You have my word : There'll be zero smell/odor excaping from this build once I am finished :) :)

The LINK you posted is do-able but it'd be easier converting a cabinet the same size but with 'doors' instead of 'drawers' Thanks for the comments man! :) Stay tuned...only 7 days until my 2nd "MONDAY UPDATE" - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

jumpman233345

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I too was gunna do a PC Grow..but in the end gave up and concentrated on getting a half-decent yield from a slightly bigger setup. You have my word : There'll be zero smell/odor excaping from this build once I am finished :) :)

The LINK you posted is do-able but it'd be easier converting a cabinet the same size but with 'doors' instead of 'drawers' Thanks for the comments man! :) Stay tuned...only 7 days until my 2nd "MONDAY UPDATE" - ZTELTHY :leaf:
Thanks for your reply matey.....if i went ahead with this i would only use the front panels of the draws , mount them all flush with wood behind (in an N shape) and turn it in to a door style opening instead of draws, perhaps even a very thin layer of velcro all around to make it as air tight as possible

I will indeed be watching your progress like a hawk! ,please forgive me for the bombardment of questions i may throw your way lol

TC
 

Ztelthy

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Thanks for your reply matey.....if i went ahead with this i would only use the front panels of the draws , mount them all flush with wood behind (in an N shape) and turn it in to a door style opening instead of draws, perhaps even a very thin layer of velcro all around to make it as air tight as possible

I will indeed be watching your progress like a hawk! ,please forgive me for the bombardment of questions i may throw your way lol

TC
Your welcome :) - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 

Matchbox

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Great job! looking forward to see it running with plants and the like XD

Thanks for your reply matey.....if i went ahead with this i would only use the front panels of the draws , mount them all flush with wood behind (in an N shape) and turn it in to a door style opening instead of draws, perhaps even a very thin layer of velcro all around to make it as air tight as possible

I will indeed be watching your progress like a hawk! ,please forgive me for the bombardment of questions i may throw your way lol

TC
Ztelthy's right, it is easier to convert something with doors already on it!

BUT saying that I built this a few grows back, did the job until I moved them but it would be perfect with 2 x 4-5 litre airpots (just cut my 10l ones down)
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/410571-grow-2-parabolic-mini-scrog.html

Might give you some ideas... I used it with CFL's, all you need to add to my design is a decent 4" inline fan with carbon filter (like Ztelthy's one) only thing being, those fans are quite loud :) but they move a lot of air and well worth it!
 

jumpman233345

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Great job! looking forward to see it running with plants and the like XD

Ztelthy's right, it is easier to convert something with doors already on it!

BUT saying that I built this a few grows back, did the job until I moved them but it would be perfect with 2 x 4-5 litre airpots (just cut my 10l ones down)
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/410571-grow-2-parabolic-mini-scrog.html

Might give you some ideas... I used it with CFL's, all you need to add to my design is a decent 4" inline fan with carbon filter (like Ztelthy's one) only thing being, those fans are quite loud :) but they move a lot of air and well worth it!
I had a look at your thread and love your CAB, thanks for that ,yet another inspirational design.

Will only a 4" inline fan be able to use the carbon filter properly? is a PC fan not strong enough to use a CF?

thanks
 

Ztelthy

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I had a look at your thread and love your CAB, thanks for that ,yet another inspirational design.

Will only a 4" inline fan be able to use the carbon filter properly? is a PC fan not strong enough to use a CF?

thanks

Cheers jumpman233345 :) ..Yeah PC CPU Fans don't really have enough strength to exit the exhaust carbon filter... I could have used another 'in-line bathroom fan' or a TT but I thought to myself 'hey..it'll defo do the job and at a later date I could switch fans and up the wattage of the ballast & lamp.. maybe a 400W lamp @ max.. still...' and that's why I am using the bigger 4" Systemair fan, it doesn't take up 'that much' room since its at the back of the cab/unit and these Systemair RVK fans are pretty quiet once attached to a carbon filter..

I may also make a 'silencer box' and have it discreetly sat next to the cab...this should make the sound movement more or less moot. I'll prob do that actually! :) :) ....So there's summink else to look forward to in this thread :)

I am glad you find my idea's inspirational....I have hundreds of grow-cab idea's but sadly not enough time, space or money to design/build all my best ones :( lmao - anyhow trust me this cab will be awesome when I am done with it :) :) :) - ZTELTHY :leaf:
 
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