~The Scroggrotto~

[DrFrankenstien]

only really starting doc, still looking for mothers, and these are my hopefuls..


theres two batchs here you can see the taller ones, as i hempy`d them there only takeing off in the last couple of days, so another week should see me ok to flip them to 12/12, there still on 18/6

Looking good, how tall before your screen?

 

[DrFrankenstien]

Pic update day 24..12/12

 

[ae86 grower]

looking really good doc, i think i can truly say batch one has hit the res at bottom of the tubs...

gained at least an inch in growth and a good bush out aswell, another week until topping but going to start the fim tomorrow, any tips doc!!! could use them.........

 

[DrFrankenstien]

looking really good doc, i think i can truly say batch one has hit the res at bottom of the tubs...

gained at least an inch in growth and a good bush out aswell, another week until topping but going to start the fim tomorrow, any tips doc!!! could use them.........

all i normally do is fim once... and since she is a haze and branchy i placed the screen about 19 inches.. above.. so i waited and and the screen acted like a lst.. i vegged her out till she filled about 60-75% of the screen..
depending on how bushy you might get diff results.. the haze is branchy with good node space so she filled in the middle very nicely..
for indicas the say to have the screen lower..
mainly just keep tucking and streching her until about day 12 after the flip.. i posted in my journal everyday since flip, check it, had some experienced people comment and help

 

[ae86 grower]

that the one in your sig? def check it out.....

do you not top? just to drive on the lower branch aswell.. haven`t tried it in scrog yet, and if you do, how do you find they react....

why 19inch from screen, can you not have it at 12 say, seems plenty, but thats just an ignorant guess dude, have no practical yet, also screen strenght, important to have a strong one or is this really not that important?

 

[DrFrankenstien]

that the one in your sig? def check it out.....

do you not top? just to drive on the lower branch aswell.. haven`t tried it in scrog yet, and if you do, how do you find they react....

why 19inch from screen, can you not have it at 12 say, seems plenty, but thats just an ignorant guess dude, have no practical yet, also screen strenght, important to have a strong one or is this really not that important?

i don't top because i get lots of branching off the haze and as i stretch my 4 main branches horizontally across the screen plenty of new sites appear waiting to fill up the middle.

19 inches is what i've found in a lot of my research i guess with tall branchy plants that gives it the space it needs to fill in underneath.. where an indica would be 12 inches because they don't grow taller i guess and arent as branchy..

Screen strength.. i hear a lot of people debating on what they think is best.. i'm using plastic netting with 2 inch squares.. its pretty rigid and the U shape that i'm using is keeping the net in place picture an archway supporting the weight using the arch with the keystone..(but upside down)
i'm picturing the force driving up from the plant is dispurst to the top of the U which is supported by the base, so the system is rigid..

i figure streching the 4 branches across to the corners of the screen is like a lst... she filled in about 2 weeks.. i flipped the lights and 12 days after i stopped tucking and streching..

 

[ae86 grower]

i have yet to decide what to use as a screen i`m hopeing to come across some wire 2 by 2 inch fence material...

been debateing lights aswell doc, my flower room is 6ft across by 2ft deep and as high as i will need, so for decent yeild would you say 2 400whps or 4 250whps...

the u shape i will also incorperate, a small vert grow if you will hahahaha.

 

[ae86 grower]

+rep for that aswell, in spirit, can`t rep anymore...

 

[DrFrankenstien]

i have yet to decide what to use as a screen i`m hopeing to come across some wire 2 by 2 inch fence material...

been debateing lights aswell doc, my flower room is 6ft across by 2ft deep and as high as i will need, so for decent yeild would you say 2 400whps or 4 250whps...

the u shape i will also incorperate, a small vert grow if you will hahahaha.

well i have my waterfarm in a space similar to what you're describing.. about 8 feet deep and 30 inches across.. but it gets HOT i have an aircooled 600 hps.. just make sure to keep things well ventilated.. i have a light mover which i may use however my scrog is completely under the light by itself .. so i don't really see the need to use it..

i originally started with a 400 watt mh/hps... not air cooled and hated it so next time around i upgraded..

600watts are the most efficient in terms of lumen, lux whatever the good one is per watt..

 

[curly604]

your plant looks great dr frank , got a question for the group ... bought a "screen" from my hydro shop the other day and its actually a net made of bungee cord that hooks to the side of the tent its pretty cool but im worried if the bungee is gonna be enough to hold up 3-5pounds of fresh hooch??? any input is greatly appreaciated cheers all.

 

[DrFrankenstien]

your plant looks great dr frank , got a question for the group ... bought a "screen" from my hydro shop the other day and its actually a net made of bungee cord that hooks to the side of the tent its pretty cool but im worried if the bungee is gonna be enough to hold up 3-5pounds of fresh hooch??? any input is greatly appreaciated cheers all.

i think it should hold, i did get a good tip from flowamaster with just adding a second screen/net above for support..
i believe the plastic screen that i'm using was purchased as part of a 25 foot roll

 

[curly604]

thanks dr , ya im thinking either two of the ones i got or maybe a cut of fencing for the bottom and use the bungee more open screen for the top one.

 

[DrFrankenstien]

yeah that sounds good, the only reason i wonder is,... is the cording to it "bungee like", because it sounds like it may be able to support it.. since a bungee streched tight has some strenght to it.. maybe bungee on the bottom and up top string?.. so you can close and adjust your squares to hold the buds upright...

 

[curly604]

not a bad idea man i will give a think about that, thanks doc!

 

[DrFrankenstien]

No prob, yeah that's why I scrogged .. I didn't want to worry about supporting massive buds in different locations on different plants ... I have 1 screen and one direction of growth...Up, and fat

 

[dhmessiah]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do you change/clean your res' w/ that screen on top. I'm thinking about scrog for my next grow and this is one thing i can't find info on. Thx in advance guys.

Dhmessiah

 

[DrFrankenstien]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do you change/clean your res' w/ that screen on top. I'm thinking about scrog for my next grow and this is one thing i can't find info on. Thx in advance guys.

Dhmessiah

check out my grow in sig .... in the shots from under you'll see a blue tube.. that tube tilts to the left or right to allow you to drain it... i use a kitty litter bin it holds about 5 gallons.. so enough to drain the rez, and flush the rez.. 2gals each.. Also keep in mind to have your container raised to allow the water to drain ... my bucket is on a custom cart/scrog

 

[dhmessiah]

Ah, I see. That would work w/ a dwc setup using 5 gal. buckets, but how would you change/ clean airstones?. Or does the waterfarm not use airstones? I'm not familiar w' those setups. I have another questiob for ya, but ill post it in your grow. Thx for the quick reply Doc.

 

[DrFrankenstien]

Ah, I see. That would work w/ a dwc setup using 5 gal. buckets, but how would you change/ clean airstones?. Or does the waterfarm not use airstones? I'm not familiar w' those setups. I have another questiob for ya, but ill post it in your grow. Thx for the quick reply Doc.

lots of good questions.. Well the waterfarm does not use an airstone underneath.. however i ran an extra tube down the main shaft and added an airstone underneath..
I don't clean out the airstone.. physically.. i'm beginning to use flora klean prior to my rez change once a week. with the waterfarm system apparently you end up with a brick of roots the size of the container.. from what i've researched.. so rather than risk trying to clean out the bucket and damage roots.. its not worth it and my baby looks healthy as can be..

 

[dhmessiah]

I agree, she does look damn healthy. I always have problems w/ my airstones clogging w/ nutes. I have to cclean them every week when i change nutes. I hate the stupid things. I"m thinking about runnin a rdwc system scrog style. Do you see any problems w/ that?