The compassionate left.

[ChesusRice]

You really think the yeoman government is in proper control of its country? Wishfully thinking doesnt work you know

The Yemen goverment gave us the intel to go and get al alwhackjob
As a 'us Citizen" all he had to do if he wanted due process was go to the nearest US embassy

 

[ginwilly]

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you are completely missing the point. Do they ALL get investigated, no. Do they ALL get labeled as potential terrorists? Yes.

Can you imagine if we used that brush to paint Middle Easterners?

 

[ginwilly]

Good for you. Citizens of yeman need no longer worry about warlords because ginwilly "thinks" their government has it sorted

On this particular situation they absolutely did have it sorted. You need to read up on this before arguing about it. These guys were sitting in a restaurant eating when we were notified of their position. The Yemen police were on route but drones are faster. The approaching drone is what tipped these guys off and that's why they fled the eatery.

 

[ChesusRice]

On this particular situation they absolutely did have it sorted. You need to read up on this before arguing about it. These guys were sitting in a restaurant eating when we were notified of their position. The Yemen police were on route but drones are faster. The approaching drone is what tipped these guys off and that's why they fled the eatery.

So cops in cars are more stealthy than a drone at 25000 feet miles away
Is this becuase the stealth technology built into the drones are detectable by the portable radar units the jihadis carry around on their Iphone?

 

[ginwilly]

So cops in cars are more stealthy than a drone at 25000 feet miles away
Is this becuase the stealth technology built into the drones are detectable by the portable radar units the jihadis carry around on their Iphone?

Dude, stop digging. The drone wasn't flying 25000 feet miles away as you claim. Witnesses in the diner also saw the drone approaching.

 

[ChesusRice]

Dude, stop digging. The drone wasn't flying 25000 feet miles away as you claim. Witnesses in the diner also saw the drone approaching.

must of been a diner in the middle of no where with clear visibility of at least 5 miles
I wonder how fast a drone flys and at what altitude
For people in a diner to be able to see it coming
and still have time to flee

You are making a lot of sense

 

[ginjawarrior]

you are completely missing the point. Do they ALL get investigated, no. Do they ALL get labeled as potential terrorists? Yes.

Can you imagine if we used that brush to paint Middle Easterners?

You mean like the situation at the moment where we accept that all "Islamic terrorists are Muslim but not all Muslims are Islamic terrorists?"

The bit that gets me is the bit where we are targeting the terrorists rather than just "Muslims"

 

[ginjawarrior]

They are on the no fly list

All army vets are on the no fly list really?

, there is even 4 year olds on the no fly list. These are the people homeland security investigates and spys on in their watch centers. I am sure I am on the 'no fly' list as well. I fit in several profiles, I wouldn't know cause I don't fly since the TSA I protest it and just drive.

Lets see, I grow weed, I have arabic blood, I have veterans in my family, I own guns, I am a libertarian, I specialize in cyber security, I voted for Ron Paul...Yep I am probably a dead wringer to be spyed on. I have probably been investigated repetitively because I am always working on hacked systems and checking things out, often hacked by anon and international criminals.

Until you have evidence that your on the no fly list I say the rest of your post is little more than self important paranoia

 

[ginjawarrior]

On this particular situation they absolutely did have it sorted. You need to read up on this before arguing about it. These guys were sitting in a restaurant eating when we were notified of their position. The Yemen police were on route but drones are faster. The approaching drone is what tipped these guys off and that's why they fled the eatery.

I like the part about the non terrorist innocent American citizen sitting in a cafe fleeing from drone attacks.

 

[ginwilly]

must of been a diner in the middle of no where with clear visibility of at least 5 miles
I wonder how fast a drone flys and at what altitude
For people in a diner to be able to see it coming
and still have time to flee

You are making a lot of sense

I'm going by eyewitness reports, you are operating on "I've got to defend Obama no matter what".

You must not have read anything about this, just did a fistpump or something.

 

[ginwilly]

I like the part about the non terrorist innocent American citizen sitting in a cafe fleeing from drone attacks.

I'm fairly certain he wasn't a non-terrorist and have never said anything close to such. I said he wasn't afforded due process that our country holds so dear. Don't put words in my mouth to try to win an argument, it's little girlish.

Read the reports on this before you argue any further please.

 

[ChesusRice]

I'm going by eyewitness reports, you are operating on "I've got to defend Obama no matter what".

You must not have read anything about this, just did a fistpump or something.

Oh please cite a reference for this

 

[ginwilly]

ftr Chesus, FoxNews agrees with you.

 

[ChesusRice]

ftr Chesus, FoxNews agrees with you.

I could care less
You stop becoming a US citizen when you advocate, implement and recruit for attacks on my country
If you are here in teh USA you will be arrested
If you choose to hide overseas
We are still going to get you

 

[ginwilly]

My guess is the drone revealed itself to get them to leave the diner. We certainly couldn't just blow the diner up, that would be bad juju.

I doubt we'll never know the reason people in the diner were allowed to see the drone but I believe their reports that they did.

 

[ginwilly]

I could care less
You stop becoming a US citizen when you advocate, implement and recruit for attacks on my country
If you are here in teh USA you will be arrested
If you choose to hide overseas
We are still going to get you

You mean like the Weather Underground?

 

[ChesusRice]

You mean like the Weather Underground?

Absolutly without prejudice

 

[ginjawarrior]

I'm fairly certain he wasn't a non-terrorist and have never said anything close to such. I said he wasn't afforded due process that our country holds so dear. Don't put words in my mouth to try to win an argument, it's little girlish.

Read the reports on this before you argue any further please.

the lack of due process afforded by the defunct government Is why they were in Yemen

I've read enough to not shed any tears over this incident

 

[ginwilly]

the lack of due process afforded by the defunct government Is why they were in Yemen

I've read enough to not shed any tears over this incident

The Yemen government wanted to capture him to stand trials for crimes committed in Yemen. We disregarded the wishes of a sovereign nation while dropping bombs in their country. It's not the pieces of shit that died I'm shedding tears over, it's our due process disregard, morals and power grab by the executive branch that has me misty eyed.

 

[ChesusRice]

the lack of due process afforded by the defunct government Is why they were in Yemen

I've read enough to not shed any tears over this incident

"He directed the failed attempt to blow up an airplane on Christmas Day in
2009. He directed the failed attempt to blow up U.S. cargo planes in 2010," Mr.
Obama said. "And he repeatedly called on individuals in the United States and
around the globe to kill innocent men, women and children to advance a murderous
agenda."


Yemeni intelligence pinpointed al-Awlaki's hideout in the town of Al Khasaf,
a Yemeni official said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss matters of
intelligence. "He was closely monitored ever since," by Yemeni intelligence on
the ground, backed by U.S. satellite and drones from the sky, the official said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-20113732.html