Homeless and ideas for solutions?

[blazinkill504]

i feel if you give it to them they will keep wantin you to give. UNLESS we paid the homeless to build their own public housin then maybe they'd appreciate what workin hard does an that it pays off!. canna is right tho most of them are crazy an really dont need to be around the general public. so what should we do with them....make a island out of empty plastic bottles an put them on it an float em into the ocean?

 

[Wordz]

i feel if you give it to them they will keep wantin you to give. UNLESS we paid the homeless to build their own public housin then maybe they'd appreciate what workin hard does an that it pays off!. canna is right tho most of them are crazy an really dont need to be around the general public. so what should we do with them....make a island out of empty plastic bottles an put them on it an float em into the ocean?

they could get the bottles too

 

[blazinkill504]

exactly gotta earn what you receive.

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

Ok, looked. I noticed Greece doesn't spend on the military as much as all other countries combined like the USA. Maybe just a fraction of that should be used on its own people to combat the homeless epidemic? I personally would like to see our kids off the street rather than blowing up kids on the street in other countries. I take my kids to the park almost daily. Over half the homeless are criminally insane. They shouldn't be allowed to live amoung the general public, let alone around kids at the park.

But do tell me how we're making a difference literally raping, I mean policing, I mean spreading democracy to the citizens of other countries! When we can't even fix our own country. In case you didn't realize, we're in a bad recession/depression. But we have enough money to bomb the rest of world into the stone age!

Again, do tell how we compare to Greece.

Sooo, you want to do away with our military and give free housing to everyone? Social welfare for all? Then we would be just like Greece, completely bankrupt with 30% unemployment, begging other countries to give us handouts to handout to our people looking for handouts. I was a homeless teen and now have a comfy living through hard work and clean living. I love everyone, but I am not for busting my nuts to give the fruit of my labor to a bunch of people who want to do nothing for it. We do have social welfare programs for the mentally ill. I know a few and they are they are taken care of. If all you are advocating for is taking care of the mentally ill, then I am on board. They are like children, virtually defenseless. But all homeless, drug addicted, criminals, and those too lazy to do for themselves? Fuck no.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Hey Mr Bigsby,

I think your robe is on a bit too tight, it's cutting off the blood supply to your brain. Why does the US need to spend as much as all other countries combined. It means either our military isn't very efficient or we spend too much.

I look at it like this. If we can't even keep several million Mexicans out, we have no right having a military base in every country.

I'll leave you with what our tax dollars to "keep us safe" is keeping us safe from:

"9-year-old Ibtihal Jassem is rescued by her uncle Jaber Jouda,
in Basra, Iraq, in this photo dated Saturday March 22, 2003,
after the bombing of the Mshan neighbourhood by coalition
warplanes. Born deaf and mute, Jassem not only lost her right
leg in the U.S. bombing of Basra two days after the war in
Iraq began, but also all seven members of her family. After
she was rescued by Jaber Jouda, who found her with her right
leg almost severed, Jassem has lived with her grandparents."

That just makes me so fucking proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free(fuck everyone else, I'm free!)

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

CANNA,


LOL! I have been known to have my robe too tight from time to time, just ask my wife. I won't argue FOR the military industrial complex. I also agree with you about the travesties of our efforts to "protect" the peoples of other countries. It's a farce, for sure. I believe at least a third of our military spending is going to slush funds and kickbacks. It sickens me too. This country has been taken over by thugs, greedy, scrofulous thugs.

America!...fuck yeah!

 

[newatit2010]

There was a local news reporter here that found a friend he went to school with homeless no job. So he gets him clothes a place to stay and a job, 2 days latter he found him back at the park where he lives. Some people don't want it.

 

[tip top toker]

I've always had quite an issue when it comes to homeless people and beggars. My genuine consensus has generally been fuck them.

While there are certaily some people who are homeless because there is no other option, part of the greater truth is that they are homeless because they chose to be. We (i) and others do our best to offer as many jobs as we can to local homeless folk to get them back on their feet, but they generally say fuck it, they simply cannot be buggered with a 20-40 hour work week. In the UK a huge number of folk say fuck work and that lot, easier just to claim benefits and take the money and get fucked up on hard drugs, they have no desire to maintain a job and make something of their life. As i say, there are people who are homeless through no choice of their own, but here, a huge number of the homeless are homeless because they have absolute no desire to change it for the "better". Most days i can look outside of my windows and see 2 homeless people who live in tents in the woods, sat in the churchyard, pissed out of their minds on bargain booze and smoking joints and such, and they have no issue with it, they actively turn down offers of work and such. While i do what i can for them, be it having a long chat with them or buying them some groceries, i have a very hard time feeling sympathy for their situation for the sole fact that they actively chose that situation. At times i can't say i blame them, to have a roof over ones head means to be a slave to your governemtn, that holds no appeal to me, i often wish to just fuck off with a tent and say fuck you governemtn with your council taxes and this and that, i'll just sleep in a tent and get fucked up on some cider and some weed and just live my life a free man, not a slave.

 

[Milovan]

i say turn all golf courses into homeless havens

 

[Grandpapy]

First have Big Oil, Coal, PetroChemical, and Pharma give Hemp a seat in Congress.
With one swipe of the pen, Congress could provide jobs for hundreds of thousands of citizens.

 

[dirtsurfr]

Ok, looked. I noticed Greece doesn't spend on the military as much as all other countries combined like the USA. Maybe just a fraction of that should be used on its own people to combat the homeless epidemic? I personally would like to see our kids off the street rather than blowing up kids on the street in other countries. I take my kids to the park almost daily. Over half the homeless are criminally insane. They shouldn't be allowed to live amoung the general public, let alone around kids at the park.

But do tell me how we're making a difference literally raping, I mean policing, I mean spreading democracy to the citizens of other countries! When we can't even fix our own country. In case you didn't realize, we're in a bad recession/depression. But we have enough money to bomb the rest of world into the stone age!

Again, do tell how we compare to Greece.

Don't worrie those bombs was made back in 2003 bought and paid for...

 

[tip top toker]

Don't worrie those bombs was made back in 2003 bought and paid for...

Wages, maintenance, storage, fuel. These things are ongoing costs. And when they use the bombs they replace them with new ones..

 

[dirtsurfr]

Yea just think if we didn't intervene how safe would you feel in your cities then? How would you feel out side traveling in your own homeland and have to worry about getting blowed up. There's all kinds of bad that comes from war and if you haven't participated in one then you have no clue, feel lucky you live were it's safe to bitch about your government unlike were that picture was taken... When the government quit taking care of the mentally challenged we got stuck with them living on the streets. When society says it's wrong to spank your child and that it's also wrong to hold them accountable, you get what you raise and thats what we have. Put them all in the service and give them guns and let them fix the problem.......

 

[tip top toker]

Yea just think if we didn't intervene how safe would you feel in your cities then? How would you feel out side traveling in your own homeland and have to worry about getting blowed up. There's all kinds of bad that comes from war and if you haven't participated in one then you have no clue, feel lucky you live were it's safe to bitch about your government unlike were that picture was taken... When the government quit taking care of the mentally challenged we got stuck with them living on the streets. When society says it's wrong to spank your child and that it's also wrong to hold them accountable, you get what you raise and thats what we have. Put them all in the service and give them guns and let them fix the problem.......

I don't worry one bit about being "blowed up". I understand the nature of fear mongering for corporate profit. You know why folk have a desire to kill westerners, because we bomb their families in their sleep. I guess you're just gagging for a no-fly zone in syria eh? Hooyah!

I'll take a total stab in the dark and say you're an American?

 

[cannabineer]

Dirtsurfr, a couple of questions.

1) Was there an increased danger of Americans abroad getting "blowed up" after 9/11? What I've seen is a one-time event that was used by our leaders to manufacture a threat.

2) Our wars in the Middle east since then ... do you think that they've improved or harmed the security of Americans abroad?
cn

 

[dirtsurfr]

Yep we were clowned by the Government and any one that travels out side the US should know the risks.
And ....haters are gonna hate.

 

[Fungus Gnat]

Sooo, you want to do away with our military and give free housing to everyone? Social welfare for all? Then we would be just like Greece, completely bankrupt with 30% unemployment, begging other countries to give us handouts to handout to our people looking for handouts. I was a homeless teen and now have a comfy living through hard work and clean living. I love everyone, but I am not for busting my nuts to give the fruit of my labor to a bunch of people who want to do nothing for it. We do have social welfare programs for the mentally ill. I know a few and they are they are taken care of. If all you are advocating for is taking care of the mentally ill, then I am on board. They are like children, virtually defenseless. But all homeless, drug addicted, criminals, and those too lazy to do for themselves? Fuck no.

Greece's problems aren't comparable, their debts might as well be in german marks. We have our own currency so we can devalue or inflate it as needed.

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

Oh for fuck's sake people! The comparison I was making is that they went so GD far to the socialism side they actually consider pedophiles, pyromaniacs, fetishists, transexuals, etc. disabled and they give them benefits. It is ridiculous. Everyone over there wants a GD hand out and that is what our country has become and is getting worse. I think the US now has a 50% drop out rate and these kids expect a job making six figures and benefits. It's become out of control with the gimme gimmes. THAT is all I am saying. OUT!


and debts are debt! We have major debt to the Chinese and many other countries. The ponzi scheme is heading for a collision course with reality.

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

To answer the homeless solutions problem the OP posed I have always wanted to obtain a building through a charity, and have others donate hair cuts, clothes, food, etc. to help the homeless. There would be a central mail room so they could have an actual address for applications, ID's, etc. There would be a mandatory breathalyzer at the door for entry. Of course some type of drug detection would be great. With all of the abandoned building right now this is doable. Much more, but I'm not posting them now.

 

[Geronimo420]

One of the main ways in which the homeless remain dehumanized is by misunderstanding the homeless and making assumptions as to the causes and implications of homelessness. Approximately ten percent of all the people in the United States are under the poverty line. And a full ten percent of those will spend some time in the next year on the street. This means that approximately one percent of the population of the U.S.—about 3 million people—will be homeless in any given year. This is not insignificant. This is a huge mass of population, an economic failure, and an indication that the U.S. is more concerned with solving the world’s problems than its own. http://www.nowheretolayhishead.org/mythsandfactsabouthomelessness.html