5KW indoor medi grow

[full of purple]

So how many lights are you running and what wattage?
Also how do you have them all positioned?

Also you said half turn on for 30 minutes at a time then the other half? sounds like a good
way to get even light spread

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

your plants are nitrogen deficient. that's the yellowing you see occuring on the leaves and most likely why your buds are small. some guys like their plants to go N deficient late in flower but day 35 is even too early for that method. i've learned over the years that you should run your plant healthy all the way through harvest. proper drying and curing will eliminate any odor or taste issues guys are trying to eliminate by starving their plants of N.

just thought you should know; even though i'm sure you'll argue that as well.

 

[SativaMe@420]

If "YOU" are proud of your grow and it makes "YOU" happy then that's all that really matters, of course maximizing the efficiency of things will produce better results but you have the right to do whatever you want with "YOUR" grow. That said please understand that most seasoned growers perceptions are based on their own experiences, so when they see things done inefficiently they remember all the headaches they went through honing their craft and just want to give advice to help you avoid the same headaches. If they come off rude or egotistical so what, don't take it personal, some people are just OCD about things but that's their problem not yours, unless they are flat out calling you an idiot they most likely just want to help but if you don't want or need their suggestions just say thanks anyway but I'm happy with how things are. You have some decent plants going and I'm sure things will just get better as long as you learn from your mistakes and keep a positive attitude. I wish you the best of luck and please remember to share the bud porn as the most rewarding time of the grow is right around the corner for you.

 

[growingforfun]

Thanks sativame, you pretty much summed up what's happening here.

Some of the plants are short on N, but not by so much as would tend to worry me, I'd say my most N lacking plant has only 25% yellowing leafs. The guy at the hydro store didn't recomend adding N because he said he feels it stunts bud growth.

I agree I'd love to see each plant a nice dark green for another week and the guy I inherited my most yellow plant advised a larger pot, but it was already in 15 gal and I couldn't rationalize more indoors. I bet it would have done better in a higher worm casting content soil, however its overshadowed by some of the other plants that show traits I would prefer to grow again so I'm not gonna worry bout the strain (queen is its name btw)

Honestly I think my plant that is nute-burned has the smallest buds, the yellow plants buds I'm VERY happy with. I cut one of its 6 in colas off to take a closer look at what I thought was a male flower but it was infact just a burned sugar leaf.
I can upload some pics later but I'm only on my cell at the time.

Last thing, scooby, read sativame's post it's a good one, I really don't want a negative tone on something I'm so clearly happy with, I'm just gonna respond like a jerk to you and miss any point you may have. So please Take it elsewhere if you decline it's a large forum

Peace.

 

[growingforfun]

So how many lights are you running and what wattage?
Also how do you have them all positioned?

Also you said half turn on for 30 minutes at a time then the other half? sounds like a good
way to get even light spread

Thanks, your close to my plan, but not exactly, what I have currently is 4000 watts burning 12 hours a day. I have 1 hood over a 5x5 area and 3 hoods over a 5x10 scrog. I've been playing with the lights a bit to see what I feel best with, and I'm just toning it down to be safe.
What I had done in the past (up till a night or 2 ago) was have 5kw on over everything and then have a additional 2200 watts come on about 3/4 of the time for added light penetration and room wide coverage due to being bare bulbs.

I feel this is still plenty of light but The plants may have a easier time in what I think is a important time

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

you should have started a grow journal. that way no one would be allowed to post unless invitrd and you could rant on all you want about your totally inefficient setup and ass backwards logic.

 

[growingforfun]

you should have started a grow journal. that way no one would be allowed to post unless invitrd and you could rant on all you want about your totally inefficient setup and ass backwards logic.

=( still? Im happy to know the main problems are my efficency and logic, and not some actual problem like mold or whatever... im not shooting for a gold medal from the green movement here get off my dick the plants are fine. at least im not suffering from trying to get away with too few watts?


the plants are a bit more lacking of N then i thought before, the most lacking plant is indeed very short on N but i still dont think i want to hit them with a dose of nitrogen and that they will be fine, i may try to find something though to use such as magic green who knows.

i know there is a lot i will do differently next time, mostly to do with how i prune the lower parts of the plant that dont reach the screen so i have less popcorn, but for a first run in a screen i feel great about it.

 

[patrickkawi37]

Lol scoobs dont waste your time I been holding back. This guy doesn't want our advise, he would rather get his advise from the guy at the hydro store. He works at a hydro store, he has to know what he's talking about. Growing is ALL about efficiency. For what this grow is costing you, you said you want 3ps.. You could go buy 3 ps for what your wasting in electric and nutes. I got 3 pounds per thousand watt. Me and scooby and raider can do circles around you and you are LUCKY we gave you advise on how to get more bang for your buck. I don't know why anyone would purposely do something inefficiently, so you sound like a broke ass that can't afford the things we were talking about . Sounds like your riding on this crop to pay some bills, good luck with your 3 pounds and making money growing inefficiently.

 

[SativaMe@420]

OK, when you tell someone "Here's a better more efficient way of doing things" and they respond by basically saying "I'm aware of that but I'm not interested in changing things just yet", at this point you've said your piece, gave your advice, now its up to "HIM" to incorporate (or not) it into "HIS" grow. He apparently believes he has things under control and that's "HIS" right, no need to get offensive or rude about things, come on guys, its his cake, let him slice it and eat it how he wants to, lol. I'm sure after he harvests this round he will setup things better for the next round, one thing I will recommend again for your next round is to put the glass in those hoods and hook up some ducting and an inline fan, I know you said you heard something about the lenses blocking like 10% of the light, that may be true but with the lenses and ducting your able to remove around 70% of the heat the bulbs produce enabling you to get the hoods a LOT closer to the the plants which in tern penetrates much better into the canopy, not to mention gets more of the light & radiation onto the plants. OK, Ive gave my advice and now your welcome to do what you will with it, good luck and post some pics.
Oh, by the way you know that when a plant flowers it starts using the sugars in the leaves for bud production so yellowing of the leaves is quite normal, you see it all the time in flowering pics, so you might not have a N deficiency, or you could and I don't know shit, lol.

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

normally i would let him say his peace but the retard asked for feedback in his first post and then tried to argue with everyone who tried to give him feedback. you see idiots like this on the forum all the time. they ask a question and then argue with anyone who answers. why ask for feedback then. everyone who has come here has told him that his grow looks like shit and he's probably spending twice as much money as he needs to get those tiny buds. don't even get me started on how dirty it looks in there. kiddy pools? really? ever heard of $1 plastic saucers? this assclown became hostile and a know it all from the beginning. that's why he's been getting ragged on.

p.s. he's in day 35 or so of flower. that's N deficiency in his plants. i know my shit.

 

[growingforfun]

+rep @ sativa, the only one in the thread right now who is getting the point. i could very well put ducting back on my lights next time around, i assure you im not hating on that way of doing it nor am i a fanboy of doing it this way, i agree its the hands down best way to remove heat. its all down to trying differant ways out

scooby, your just so intent on being a jerk arnt you? i used kiddie pools because when using 15 gallon pots there is only about 1/2 of room or less around my pots to catch water, and spills we frequent since ecven a extra pint was too much using the biggest ones sold at hydro stores, home improovment garden stores had larger sizes for around 50$ per.

also feedback is more then talking shit, but you have 2k posts in 3 months, your well practiced in the art of spamming shit so i guess old dogs and new tricks or whatever... while you keep claiming its so expensive and worthless i have to wonder about how many times you have done this, because its not costing me near as much as you troll about. patrick your also welcome to hold back, i know you think im so blessed to hear your words of wisdom but save it for some other poor soul who needs your help and drag your friend scoobs with ya.


heres some green light pics from just now..

 

[growingforfun]

shots from over the last few days of my "tiny" buds...

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

+rep @ sativa, the only one in the thread right now who is getting the point. i could very well put ducting back on my lights next time around, i assure you im not hating on that way of doing it nor am i a fanboy of doing it this way, i agree its the hands down best way to remove heat. its all down to trying differant ways out

scooby, your just so intent on being a jerk arnt you? i used kiddie pools because when using 15 gallon pots there is only about 1/2 of room or less around my pots to catch water, and spills we frequent since ecven a extra pint was too much using the biggest ones sold at hydro stores, home improovment garden stores had larger sizes for around 50$ per.

also feedback is more then talking shit, but you have 2k posts in 3 months, your well practiced in the art of spamming shit so i guess old dogs and new tricks or whatever... while you keep claiming its so expensive and worthless i have to wonder about how many times you have done this, because its not costing me near as much as you troll about. patrick your also welcome to hold back, i know you think im so blessed to hear your words of wisdom but save it for some other poor soul who needs your help and drag your friend scoobs with ya.


heres some green light pics from just now..

really? $50 for a saucer? are they made of kevlar? you can get a 10 pack of clear 20" saucers for like $25 on amazon or at any hydro store. ur a fucking idiot. we all know it. you just haven't caught on yet. 15 gallon pots and your plants are that small? i'm literally dying of laughter over here. i gave you feedback and so did a few other people. you just wanted to argue cause you think you know it all. i've seen chics on their first grows pull better looking palnts than those. don't even try to talk shit to me about knowing how inefficient your room is. with all that light those colas should be the size of footballs. do you even know how to calculate how much you are spending on electricity? i build efficient homes for a living. you find ways to grow shitty buds for 3 times the money as a hobby. who's the ass clown here?

 

[patrickkawi37]

really? $50 for a saucer? are they made of kevlar? you can get a 10 pack of clear 20" saucers for like $25 on amazon or at any hydro store. ur a fucking idiot. we all know it. you just haven't caught on yet. 15 gallon pots and your plants are that small? i'm literally dying of laughter over here. i gave you feedback and so did a few other people. you just wanted to argue cause you think you know it all. i've seen chics on their first grows pull better looking palnts than those. don't even try to talk shit to me about knowing how inefficient your room is. with all that light those colas should be the size of footballs. do you even know how to calculate how much you are spending on electricity? i build efficient homes for a living. you find ways to grow shitty buds for 3 times the money as a hobby. who's the ass clown here?

I almost pissed my pants. 15 gallon pots? I get 6 ounce plants with 4 gallon pots son. Anyone growing for a hobby would definitely maximize efficiency. So I believe your growing for money, which is hilarious cause your going to come out negative. Don't worry, we all been there, I only got 3 pounds with 4k watts my first run too, not scared to admitt it. But the sooner you realize that you don't know anything about what your doing, the sooner your going to take people's advise and be successful. So funny cause the guy that "taught" me how to grow, lost his house 6 months ago with his whomping 2.9 pounds from 4k watts. The reason he failed so miserably is because he thought he knew everything and didn't know his asshole from his elbow, just like you. I'd have to say I wouldn't be as successful with my grows if it wasn't for scooby and the rest of the good information I've got from roll it up. Now I'm here trying to pass down information so you can tripple your yield like I did.. And you spit in everyone's face cause you already are killing it with your .3gpw. You must live in southern California.

 

[growingforfun]

wow you guys have a lot of hate lol!

<3 haters, means its working?

keep in mind i havent gotten those yields yet, im still waiting for a few weeks masta for dem budsta gro a bit mo' who knows if ill een git .1 gpw let lone .3! yee haw!

 

[growingforfun]

this isent my job, my house isent on the line, nothing is at risk. i dont know how you play the game of life but we are not the same you and i. electric is .04$ per kwh here, i know exactly how to figure out my bill, its just so low i dont care.

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

this isent my job, my house isent on the line, nothing is at risk. i dont know how you play the game of life but we are not the same you and i. electric is .04$ per kwh here, i know exactly how to figure out my bill, its just so low i dont care.

i guess we are different. guys like me would rather do something efficiently and correctly. electricity is electricity and producing costs money and polutes the environment. i'd rather use as little of it as necessary to do what i need to. lemme guess...you're one of those posers who drives a mack truck around getting 5mpg even though you've never put anything in the bed of the truck. by all means sir...please continue to waste your own money and the planets resources. i'd like to learn the best way to do something i get this involved in. since other people smoke what i grow i would like to be able to give them a quality product. this isn't my job; my house is not at risk; i'm just not one of those guys who reads a few things on the internet and thinks he's an expert. go right ahead...just keep adding lights till you get the yield you want.

hey, if you wanna half ass it then go for it. we tried to help and you decided to just argue with everyone that offered an opinion. i don't belong to any other social media sites and i don't watch much tv. plus; fishing season is over and work is slow. pays to be the boss. so spending a few minutes here and there on RIU clowning idiots like you and helping those who actually have a head on there shoulders isn't that big a deal. it's the majority of english i speak during the day. lol. please, don't let me stop you. go right ahead and keep wasting electricity, equipment, money, nutes, etc...it's your money. i prefer to waste my money on other things.

 

[skunkd0c]

Naw just every grower knows everything. This guy is probably 40 something like my buddy's uncle who grows. Can't yield enough to even break even but when you give your opinion it's wrong. Because he is intelligent and obviously knows more than us stoners. OP have fun, I'll see your gear on Craigslist in a few months you know it all clown.

LOL this turned rather bitter
not sure i support your comments about the over 40s, i do not have long to go

i think most of your advise was pretty sensible .. but did he ask for it ?
if he does not want to accept it or didn't even ask for it perhaps it is time to move on
fighting with him is not the best plan
his plants look ok a bit scrappy imo, nothing special to see here

peace

 

[growingforfun]

used a medical cannabis sucker recipe to try an make some candies, it worked well. not bad for a first try. used about 5 grams of hash... they taste pretty good also. i used warm honey to dissolve the hash and vanilla and strawberry to flavor. gotta love the meds...

 

[kamie]

shots from over the last few days of my "tiny" buds...

those colas dont look good... wats wrong with them?