Quick opinion, under or over watering?

[IcculusX]

I just moved some rooted clones into a 4x4 tent they looked pretty nice yesterday coming from the cloning area...



One day later they are all droopy and sad looking, is this under or over watering? It is a flood and drain setup set to every 3 hours during lights on...



pls disregard the fact they are wet, since i just gave them a misting since its my opinion they seemed dry...

 

[MrGhettoGrower]

Overwatered with possible overnuted.....

 

[IcculusX]

i only keep it at 200ppm until they get settled usually.. so i doubt its overnuted. but yea, it seemed like overwatered with droopy leaves, but they were dry and papery too, which always confuses me... ill pull back the flood to 4 or 6 hrs?

 

[IcculusX]

this hasnt helped at all, the clones are growing slowly and putting on new node tiers, but they still have droopy leaves. i even let them dry out for an entire 12 hours with no change.
the leaf color is good, and the root systems are growing well, and they are firm and bright white.

what else could cause droopy leaves?

 

[IcculusX]

oh yea and i added a large air pump with 2 long airstones to the rez just in case... i am used to dwc, and with that air pump these plants could sit in the water 24/7 and do fine.

 

[calicat]

I just moved some rooted clones into a 4x4 tent they looked pretty nice yesterday coming from the cloning area...

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One day later they are all droopy and sad looking, is this under or over watering? It is a flood and drain setup set to every 3 hours during lights on...

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pls disregard the fact they are wet, since i just gave them a misting since its my opinion they seemed dry...

Slightly overwatered coupled with the environmental change. No evidence of nutrient burn for your tips looks clean.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

do you roots reach the the water when flooding? try top feeding every 3-4 hours until roots establish. Net pots aint very deep, they might be drying out, what temps you running? Pretty hard / impossible to over water with that setup. They are clones, up your EC to 1. (ppm 700) although that won't be the cause of droop.

 

[IcculusX]

the roots are growing well and all of them are down to the fence post "floor", the water floods halfway up to the bottom 1/2 inch of the cup.

i just found out my pH pen calibration was messed up... pH was @ 7.1 and is now adjusted down to 5.8.. that wouldnt cause droopy leaves?

this is Barney's Blue Cheese and the leaves are usually HUGE, here is a pic of the moms.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

I am pretty new to hydro and am running a flood and drain table. I am using regular pots, not net pots and they are probably 3 times taller than your pots. When I flood, approx 1/3 the pot is submerged. I flood for 30mins every hour and a half, growth is rapid and not seeing any probs. I went straight to flower from 4 inch clones and they are probably 12 inches tall in 8-9 days. Based on that I would say your hydroton is drying out and not holding moisture between feeds. Also only 1/2 inch of your pot sitting in water may not be producing much of a capillary action. Also light penetration may hinder you as those netpots you have aint very deep.

I would say to adjust the overflow, another inch higher and increase your feed frequency.

 

[IcculusX]

yes i would agree, my opinion was underwatering... but the indication of droopy leaves doesnt point to that.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

adjust the flood height on 1 of your tubes and flood straight away, if that is the issue you should see results within an hour. We can but try my friend. On a different tube, make some covers for your pots to see if it helps with retention

 

[IcculusX]

i top fed them all and increased the flood to every 2 hrs. raising the level would get the rapid rooters soaked every time, and im not sure if i wanna do that, there are plenty of roots hanging down.

will check back in a few days to see if that did anything.

happy 420th post btw

 

[MrMeanGreen]

i top fed them all and increased the flood to every 2 hrs. raising the level would get the rapid rooters soaked every time, and im not sure if i wanna do that, there are plenty of roots hanging down.

will check back in a few days to see if that did anything.

happy 420th post btw

Your longer roots submerged in the water won't be affected at all, DWC has roots permenantley in water without probs. Doing all the things I suggested will not harm your girls at all. You will only drown the plant if all the roots are submerged, the roots at the base of your plant can absorb all the O2 it needs.
Covering the top of your pots will increase humidity in the hydroton and stop them drying out if that is the problem.

Feel a bit thick now..... what's the relevance of 420 ?

 

[MrMeanGreen]

how's it going IcculusX, did you save em?