Bud Blood Experiences

eDude

Well-Known Member
even though he's a proven liar i do admit that the question is real important cause if the nutes do drift at all even a week later than at some point you would need ph down or up. AN claims you never have to use a ph adjuster and they are 100% correct since it never drifts
Ahhh but.. If some drift is desirable and we know it is.. then.. you still don't "need" adjustment. I have see systems that need daily adjustments.
 

Huel Perkins

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Name me ONE product that is a gimmick
Let's see here... How many individual products does AN make? Take all those products, now subtract the products you actually need to grow healthy plants, the rest are gimmicks.

Most companies have them, but AN just happens to have the most.
 

patlpp

New Member
Let's see here... How many individual products does AN make? Take all those products, now subtract the products you actually need to grow healthy plants, the rest are gimmicks.

Most companies have them, but AN just happens to have the most.
Aren't you contradicting yourself stating to "subtract the products you actually need" . Aren't you guys the ones claiming you need these extras for a proper grow, that somehow the AN base nutes are inadequate? At least you admit ALL companies have them but please give me ONE. You didn't answer the question.
 

eDude

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Let's see here... How many individual products does AN make? Take all those products, now subtract the products you actually need to grow healthy plants, the rest are gimmicks.

Most companies have them, but AN just happens to have the most.
LOL really? wow.. almost hopeless.

Check out some critical thinking.. it'll make more sense of the world.

[video=youtube_share;6OLPL5p0fMg]http://youtu.be/6OLPL5p0fMg[/video]
 

eDude

Well-Known Member
Let's see here... How many individual products does AN make? Take all those products, now subtract the products you actually need to grow healthy plants, the rest are gimmicks.

Most companies have them, but AN just happens to have the most.

I have to explore this some more..

So, if I was a native American living in a lush valley and I only put fish guts at the bottom of the hole I plant my corn in doesn't that make all modern nutrients gimmicks? Just think about what you're saying and how silly it is. Reductio ad absurdum?
 

tree king

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Ahhh but.. If some drift is desirable and we know it is.. then.. you still don't "need" adjustment. I have see systems that need daily adjustments.
i just mean it jumps around a very little bit but it never get nearly outta range. with other nutes some people are gonna have to use ph down or up theres no way to get around it. just because dyna gro doesnt need to be ph adjusted by some people doesnt mean its the same for everyone. i had to use ph down with dyna all the time. no other nutrient company i know of can guarentee a balanced ph when there water starts at 4.5-8-5 ph
 

Huel Perkins

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Aren't you contradicting yourself stating to "subtract the products you actually need" . Aren't you guys the ones claiming you need these extras for a proper grow, that somehow the AN base nutes are inadequate? At least you admit ALL companies have them but please give me ONE. You didn't answer the question.
You guys? I'm one person, I have no idea what you're insinuating... I never made claims of needing extras for a proper grow. To answer your question without trying to make you actually think, bud blood.

I have to explore this some more..

So, if I was a native American living in a lush valley and I only put fish guts at the bottom of the hole I plant my corn in doesn't that make all modern nutrients gimmicks? Just think about what you're saying and how silly it is. Reductio ad absurdum?
Think about what you're asking. If you give a plant everything it needs, what else is there to give it?

BTW, That's a rhetorical question...
 

patlpp

New Member
That Bud Blood is the one AN product that I thought was really good, and it does what it says. It turns out that AN copied it from another company, and changed the name from Blossom Blood to Bud Blood. Anyway, just use it at 1 teaspoon/gallon of whatever nutrient you are using during the first week of 12/12 only. I found that it slowed Da Stretch, and caused flowering to start a few days earlier. Of course, total flowering time wasn't shortened, but it may improve yield some.

HTH :mrgreen:
He likes Bud Blood and has done hundreds of grows. Not a rookie here. NEXT
 

patlpp

New Member
I KNEW IT ,I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT, LO FUCKIN LLLLL

It's like the Bat Signal, mention Potroast and here comes UB !!

UB really, do I sound like a 100% AN guy? I have some impartiality. I just like arguing for the sake of arguing.
If the guy wasn't such a prick (huel) , my intention was to say "other then that, name one" and keep on going.

I endorse :Overdrive and Sensi Base as prescribed in my journal. Call me stupid.

I just up potted 3 Super Lemon haze from seed into promix with 350ppm of a little white shark, a little Botanicare original compost grow, 3ml/gal Dyna foliage and 1ml/gal Protekt. Thats where my heads at right now. NO AN and guess what I will top them utilizing the famous UB 2nd node method.

I don't want to argue with you UB, i'd be sticking my head in books and googling for hours so F off!! lol
 

homebrewer

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True, and I'm happy that you're happy. What was being argued by HB was that pH perfect did not have buffers. I simply posted the video to show that it is using buffers. Not for it or against it. Just pointing out the truth of the matter.
You can believe whatever you want and if you're taking a dog-and-pony-show sales pitch as gospel, well good luck to you. If you were really smart, you'd email/call AN and find out how and why 'pH perfect' works so you don't screw something up. I've only stated the truth as I have actually spoken with them rather than gotten my info from a clueless hydro store employee or a youtube advertisement.

Again, pH issues are almost never the cause of problems in hydro so as I stated before, the simpletons using this stuff thinking all their problems will go away have another thing coming.
 

tree king

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talkin to this guy is like talkin to a brick wall. no one is that dumb he gotta be doin this on purpose he probably works for dyna gro
 

homebrewer

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talkin to this guy is like talkin to a brick wall. no one is that dumb he gotta be doin this on purpose he probably works for dyna gro
Tree, in my second year in this hobby, I was probably 3 years ahead of where you're currently at. Keep insulting the guys that could help you, that's super smart :lol:.
 

eDude

Well-Known Member
Tree, in my second year in this hobby, I was probably 3 years ahead of where you're currently at. Keep insulting the guys that could help you, that's super smart :lol:.

:clap: and you still have all your work still ahead of you. Years from now you'll catch yourself telling someone what you should have learned here and think "O.. that's what they were talking about.. boy was I stupid.." Remember the word 'buffers'...

Two years.. LOL and you try to talk like you know everything.. Typical. :-P
 

eDude

Well-Known Member
You can believe whatever you want and if you're taking a dog-and-pony-show sales pitch as gospel, well good luck to you. If you were really smart, you'd email/call AN and find out how and why 'pH perfect' works so you don't screw something up. I've only stated the truth as I have actually spoken with them rather than gotten my info from a clueless hydro store employee or a youtube advertisement.

Again, pH issues are almost never the cause of problems in hydro so as I stated before, the simpletons using this stuff thinking all their problems will go away have another thing coming.
I really don't understand what's got your panties in a bunch.. You haven't proven a thing. pH perfect has buffers in it. Prove that wrong. You can huff and puff all you want, cry about how pH is wrong or whatever you want. Still doesn't change the fact that pH Perfect has buffers in it. It's in the video and on the label. Also, think it's cute that you'll try to dam the sales pitch but then tell us to call AN.. What for? Another sales pitch? You might want to read what you post before posting it. You're painting yourself into a logic corner and I don't think you can get out.

I love wasting your time... lol it's like trying to teach a brain damaged dog a new trick.. I know you won't get it but I'll keep trying.. You never know you might get a clue. LOL :D
 

tree king

Well-Known Member
Tree's got me to help him. a real grower. not a Dyna salesman. when your plants look like mine HB maybe people will start listening to you. for know you'll just have to stick to baiting the newbs into actually thinking your repeat bud pics of airy ass plants are greaat. lmfao. clown. you couldn't pull 1gpw if i gave you a 20% credit.
thanks scooby. homebrewer wishes his plants looked like yours. thats some good snake oil your using lol.

a couple weeks ago i was on the phone with discountadvancednutrients.com... the website is popular and they specialize in mostly AN products. i cant think of a better place to call in the u.s to get info on AN products. he said the ph perfect keeps your ph at like 5.7-6.0. the guy said when the ph is too low then it activates something in the nutes that starts popping and it makes it go up and corrects it and so on if its too high. i cant make it go outta range even if i tried ive topped off the res so many times since using it. he also said only 3-4 companies in the world have the right to use the technology and AN is one of them. i guess homebrewer just wants to make up his own definition of what it does
 

patlpp

New Member
Two years.. LOL and you try to talk like you know everything.. Typical. :-P
I think he meant when he was in his second year of growing,past tense. Not that he has to date 2 years of growing experience.
HB is very experienced. Personalities seem too easily to clash when debating this subject. It is all futile. Like talking a Dem or repub to vote for the other side. It just ain't gonna happen
 

Uncle Ben

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I really don't understand what's got your panties in a bunch.. You haven't proven a thing. pH perfect has buffers in it. Prove that wrong. You can huff and puff all you want, cry about how pH is wrong or whatever you want. Still doesn't change the fact that pH Perfect has buffers in it. It's in the video and on the label. Also, think it's cute that you'll try to dam the sales pitch but then tell us to call AN.. What for? Another sales pitch? You might want to read what you post before posting it. You're painting yourself into a logic corner and I don't think you can get out.

I love wasting your time... lol it's like trying to teach a brain damaged dog a new trick.. I know you won't get it but I'll keep trying.. You never know you might get a clue. LOL :D
Got some photos of a garden of yours?
 

eDude

Well-Known Member
I think he meant when he was in his second year of growing,past tense. Not that he has to date 2 years of growing experience.
HB is very experienced. Personalities seem too easily to clash when debating this subject. It is all futile. Like talking a Dem or repub to vote for the other side. It just ain't gonna happen

Ok. Kind of an odd thing to say about 2 years and 3 years.. anyhow..

For a min there I felt sorry for the guy. I figured he was just ignorant and that explained it..

Is it better that he's a seasoned vet yet can't see plain logic when it's shoved in his face? I mean it's like middle school chemistry.. pH and buffers.. no magic or mystery there.

PS there is something sooo satisfying when a guy wants to fight but can't find the words so he just blurts out random BS about photos. Beaten by proof and logic all he can do is troll and try to find a chink in the armor. LOL This is going to be fun :) Just look at you man.. trolling my threads.. :fire: Must be getting to you.

Prove me wrong Ace.
 
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