First time growing. How's it look? Any advice?

[monkeybones]

i thought that's what lollypoping is..

lollypopping is when you prune off low-down bud sites which will not receive any light through the dense canopy of the plants.

the fan leaves are left alone because they are a storage place for water, sugars, and nutrients. the plant cannibalizes these leaves when it is starved for any of those things

 

[beefcakez]

yea buddy I'm a fuckin troll. I was more upset by how people were lying to you about how great they look. I appolagise for comming on your thread with my balls hanging out. there is not much you can do for those plants now side lighting will help I guess but I would sugest starting over. when you do start new seeds get light on them right away when they sprout even if it is just a 26w cfl. keep the light real close like an inch or 2 away. then get a fan blowing on it right away. the fan blowing will strengthen the stems up so you will have a nice sturdy plant and the plant will strech toward the light so keep it close to avoid excessive streching, tube fluro's are not your best bet in this situation unless used properly. the tube spreads the light intensity out over the length of that tube where a cfl is more concentrated. you can get those clip on type fixture that you can hang all around the plant you can also get y spliters so you can put 2 cfls into one socket safely. cfls are great for vegging but something more powerful is needed for flower I personally would use a 400w hps but you can get higher powered cfls but I don't have much expiereance with those.

Im gunna finish the flower process so I can get some experience with the whole end stage part.

About lighting, I think my problem was keeping them 6-8 inches away from the top.. (Would this cause it to stretch and lean?) I was afraid of burning the plant, or making it too hot.

Is there such a thing as too much light? Can I just put like 10-15 cfls around my bathroom with mylon everywhere?

 

[beefcakez]

lollypopping is when you prune off low-down bud sites which will not receive any light through the dense canopy of the plants.

the fan leaves are left alone because they are a storage place for water, sugars, and nutrients. the plant cannibalizes these leaves when it is starved for any of those things

Would you suggest I trim all the low, barely growing stems near the bottom? They hardly get any light.

 

[HotShot7414]

lollypopping is when you prune off low-down bud sites which will not receive any light through the dense canopy of the plants.

the fan leaves are left alone because they are a storage place for water, sugars, and nutrients. the plant cannibalizes these leaves when it is starved for any of those things

NOT TRUE when lollipopping you remove any thing growing on bottom 1/3 of the plant,if not it would waste energy on fan leaves it don't need

 

[MajorCoco]

Get more light. With CFL it is impossible to over do it. And get em close. Like TusselTussel said - he wasn't wrong with the advice really, though he shoulda put it more nicely!

I can see the value in you trying to grow them out. If you get new lights especially then you might notice that it helps quite a lot..getting more light should be your #1 priority right now.

 

[luckybleu]

I shut the door to my bathroom and turn all lights off at 8. The only light it could get at night is whatever moonlight from outside gets through the shades. Then turn it all back on at 8am.

Is it too late to increase the light to increase the yield?

i don't think its too late,you wont get monsters for sure but better yeild/quality.start at week 1 flower after increasing light

 

[tusseltussel]

Im gunna finish the flower process so I can get some experience with the whole end stage part.

About lighting, I think my problem was keeping them 6-8 inches away from the top.. I was afraid of burning the plant, or making it too hot.

Is there such a thing as too much light? Can I just put like 10-15 cfls around my bathroom with mylon everywhere?

there is such a thing as too much light but you won't have a problem with that at this stage the floros will not burn, ive had em touching a leaf before with not much trouble, and yes that was the problem why they streached so much and are so spindly. mylar everywhere and 10-15 cfls sounds good for this grow it sounds like you got another month to go on those plants meanwhile it gives you time to plan for the next gro and get supplies. do you know what kind of lights I mean when I say thos clip on fixtures, they are the ones tha have an aluminum reflector attached and you can clip em on to something ore just hang em.... I would sugest getting the y spliters and hangung them bitches all around the plants with the reflector removed

 

[MadmanStitch]

i would get a mh/hps light bro mh for veg and hps for flower and look around for something other than miracle grow i use happy tree frog its pretty good i have no complaints with it and just look around to see what your growing needs are it takes practice to grow good green and those plants are a lil strechty but they look nice youll remember it and only get better bro keep up the good work.

 

[MajorCoco]

For what its worth, I don't lollipop, and I never trim off a leaf that isn't already dead. Plants know what they're doing...it's us humans that don't...try to leave them alone as much as possible, and they will thank and reward you is my general grow philosophy...

 

[tusseltussel]

oh and again I apolagize for being a dick

 

[MadmanStitch]

i had a 150 watt that didnt take up to much room and its an upgrade from cfls

 

[tusseltussel]

For what its worth, I don't lollipop, and I never trim off a leaf that isn't already dead. Plants know what they're doing...it's us humans that don't...try to leave them alone as much as possible, and they will thank and reward you is my general grow philosophy...

plants do know what they are doing in nature but in a closet nahhh. with overhead lighting an even canopy is easier to manage with poor circulation from craming 9 plants in a 2x2 space triming up the bottom is a huge help which would be my next advice for beef cakes next grow. you do not need a big hps or mh for veg, sure it helps but cfl veg nicely. I would suggest growing 4 nodes than toping it off leaving 3 than after a week top the branches that are coming from the second node and what ever is sticking up usually re top the 2 that grow out of the original 3rd node once they grow 2 new nodes each than wait a week and trim up any leaves up to where the plants were topped if that makes sence than a week after that flower that whore and you end up with like 10 tops all evan or close to it. put a 400 w hps over it and finish with 2 ft plants filled with thick colas. but that may be a little advanced for right now but in a 2x2x6 or 8 room nothin but love commin outta thair

 

[MajorCoco]

oh and again I apolagize for being a dick

One of those days eh!!
To be fair, I think you were right about it being a hermie, and I think it fair to say that a new start is exactly what I would be doing if this were my plant. But I'm guessing the OP is very green at this, so maybe a dry run won't hurt.

 

[MajorCoco]

plants do know what they are doing in nature but in a closet nahhh. with overhead lighting an even canopy is easier to manage with poor circulation from craming 9 plants in a 2x2 space triming up the bottom is a huge help which would be my next advice for beef cakes next grow. you do not need a big hps or mh for veg, sure it helps but cfl veg nicely. I would suggest growing 4 nodes than toping it off leaving 3 than after a week top the branches that are coming from the second node and what ever is sticking up usually re top the 2 that grow out of the original 3rd node once they grow 2 new nodes each than wait a week and trim up any leaves up to where the plants were topped if that makes sence than a week after that flower that whore and you end up with like 10 tops all evan or close to it. put a 400 w hps over it and finish with 2 ft plants filled with thick colas. but that may be a little advanced for right now but in a 2x2x6 or 8 room nothin but love commin outta thair

Ok, ok!! That's all true of course, but here I was again trying to keep things fairly simple for the OP's sake...I don't think lollipopping or topping would help the plant in the photos at the start of this thread!!

 

[HotShot7414]

By being a first grow im sure any grower would be reluctant to cut anything at all but,i think you can get a decent yield from cfls i have before and for 5 months of growing i would expect something i wont smoke in a day.My first grow i spent around 30$ for my light setup 10 23w cfls =10$ 10 socket adaptors =$12.50 2 power strips = $6 plus a extra lamp i already had with a 26w cfl over head.Yielded a lil over 2oz and i had to chop early.

 

[monkeybones]

yea buddy I'm a fuckin troll. I was more upset by how people were lying to you about how great they look. I appolagise for comming on your thread with my balls hanging out. there is not much you can do for those plants now side lighting will help I guess but I would sugest starting over. when you do start new seeds get light on them right away when they sprout even if it is just a 26w cfl. keep the light real close like an inch or 2 away. then get a fan blowing on it right away. the fan blowing will strengthen the stems up so you will have a nice sturdy plant and the plant will strech toward the light so keep it close to avoid excessive streching, tube fluro's are not your best bet in this situation unless used properly. the tube spreads the light intensity out over the length of that tube where a cfl is more concentrated. you can get those clip on type fixture that you can hang all around the plant you can also get y spliters so you can put 2 cfls into one socket safely. cfls are great for vegging but something more powerful is needed for flower I personally would use a 400w hps but you can get higher powered cfls but I don't have much expiereance with those.

you gotta admit, you're being a bit of an anal prick

 

[tusseltussel]

you gotta admit, you're being a bit of an anal prick

little late bro and yea I admited I was being a dick and I apologized more than once so move alongnothing more to see here

 

[tusseltussel]

There is too much Bs going around that scares noobs into thinking theese plants are soooo delicate and soooo hard to grow than another noob passes that on and on and on untile you have a forum full of people that think you are commiting acts of tourture if you cut a leaf off a plant. noobs don't need that they need to realize that all their fears of growing a plant are really false. it is not rocket science it's growing herb. I saw a post earlier where a noob was freaking out because he ripped off a leaf tip accidentally hell ive taken a couple of 3 foot mothers and cut em down to a foot put em back in the room and a week later took some cuttings. theese plants can take some leaf cutting here and there they can be transplanted without worry of shock they can be topped fimed snaped in half droped off a balcony and live on to bud another day

 

[thehole]

Lower light, get more light if possible. There is a little spacing in between internodes that could be tighter in my opinion.

Looks healthy.

I agree with one reply here about cutting off lower growth. There is absolutely no reason to keep your lower 1/3 in that setup, in most setups, being they won't get much light to grow good sized bud. Also this pruning technique will send more energy to the top buds. It's a pruning technique I always use. I cut from about week 5-7 of veg and into week 1 of flower, gradually get rid of the bottom 1/3.

 

[thehole]

lollipopping is pinching or cutting of smaller budsites on the lower part of all the branches. This is a more advanced technique then gradually cutting off the bottom 1/3. I'd wait until you get more grows under your belt before you attempt to lolli. Too much can kill a yield.