Plant problem progressing rapidly

[RetiredMatthebrute]

yeah the salt will kill the cell through the proces sof osmosis, providing it dosent evaporate too fast......spray a drop of wate ron a leaf in your grow room, walk away for 5 min and come back....it dosent stay on there that long. so foilar feeding is best done when lights are out so the leaves have time to take in the goodies your trying to give them. though i have never been a fan of foilar feeding but i hear foliar feeding the compost tea was pretty good and plants love it...thats what i heard.....never tried it

 

[psilocybindude]

Here are some updated pics, and yeah it seems as though its moving pretty rapidly i first noticed signs of the same problem on the white Russian on the 7th here is a pic from the 7th,

and here are some pics of it and the blue cheese from a few minutes ago.

 

[imchucky666]

I've been wanting to get some black strap molasses for my soil for a while now but no stores around here carry it i guess ill have to make a trip to town.

I'll be posting updated pictures shortly.

IDK if it's right or not, but I'm using generic grocery store molasses-I read that as long as label says 'unsulphured' it's ok.
They did have blackstrap right next to it on the shelf, but this appeared the same on the label.

 

[psilocybindude]

Yeah I'm definitely gonna pick some up i didn't know you could use regular sulfured molasses or i would have gotten some long ago it would be nice to have the microbes on my side, i had no idea that blood meal had to be broken down by microbes i figured the nitrogen was readily available since it was processed but i don't really know much about organics, i should probably read up on organic gardening.

 

[imchucky666]

Right on dude. stay motivated.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

Yeah I'm definitely gonna pick some up i didn't know you could use regular sulfured molasses or i would have gotten some long ago it would be nice to have the microbes on my side, i had no idea that blood meal had to be broken down by microbes i figured the nitrogen was readily available since it was processed but i don't really know much about organics, i should probably read up on organic gardening.

im sure it does have some available N but probabaly not alot, should say on the bag what it has for avaialble nutrients,

 

[psilocybindude]

Well its been 3 days since i watered the plants with 2 tsp of Epsom salts and things seem to be getting a bit better, the growth had bogged down for quite a while but now it seems to be picking back up, the rapid spread of the yellowing also seems to have slowed down if not stopped completely, i picked off most of the severely effected leaves so i could see if it was continuing and while i do see it in some places i am not sure if it is new or if they had been like that. The leaves also seem to be canoeing a bit less than they were before and the tips don't seem to be curling up ward as they were before, i have noticed some yellowing on the upper growth but i believe that to be caused by my failed first attempt at foliar feeding, well anyways I'm off to get some molasses so i can water today.

 

[psilocybindude]

Well its been about a day since i watered and i hope i am not just seeing what i want to see but it seems like the plants are really tuning around, before this problem started when ever i watered i would always get a pretty decent growth spurt at least an inch or so, but for the past 2 or so weeks that this has been going on it seemed that there was very little vertical growth even after watering, after watering last night with 1 tsp of Epsom salts and 1 tbsp of molasses the blue cheese seems to have shot up 1 inch or 2 so i am hoping that this is a sign that things are getting better, if things continue at this rate and the yellowing stops it should be time to flip the switch soon.

 

[imchucky666]

glad to hear it

 

[psilocybindude]

Well its been a few days since i posted pics so here is the update, the stem of the white Russian is almost entirely back to green except for a few side branches, the leaf tips have also stopped burning and curling up and growth rate seems to have resumed back to normal, the blue cheese has no more canoeing leaves, the stem is still purplish but seems to be getting lighter and the leaf tips have stopped burning and curling upwards, the growth rate also seems to have returned back to normal on this one as well. However i am not positive but it seems to me that the yellowing is still continuing although at a much much slower rate, i really hope it goes away completely because i want every thing to be perfect before i flip the switch to start flowering and if the growth rate keeps going at this pace it will be soon.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

glad things turned around for you

 

[psilocybindude]

Thanks man me to lol, i just hope things keep moving in the right direction.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

they will man, the key is to make sure everything is where it should be at the start so that its a smooth ride from the begining

 

[psilocybindude]

they will man, the key is to make sure everything is where it should be at the start so that its a smooth ride from the begining

Yeah i have put a lot of time, money, and effort into making sure i had every thing i needed for the grow before i even considered germinating the seeds, i thought i had every thing in order but i guess i left a few things out, what can i say except that i am a stoner lol...

 

[psilocybindude]

Video update...

[video=youtube_share;IPn0hXCEL5k]http://youtu.be/IPn0hXCEL5k[/video]

 

[scroglodyte]

over-fed............lock-out because of it. blood meal is some hot stuff as organics go, and too much lime is no good either. i think Chucky is on point.

 

[scroglodyte]

IDK if it's right or not, but I'm using generic grocery store molasses-I read that as long as label says 'unsulphured' it's ok.
They did have blackstrap right next to it on the shelf, but this appeared the same on the label.

blackstrap is better...........less sugar, more minerals. i do believe

 

[psilocybindude]

over-fed............lock-out because of it. blood meal is some hot stuff as organics go, and too much lime is no good either. i think Chucky is on point.

What kind of lock out would you say it is magnesium or potassium, and how can i correct the excess nitrogen, phosphorus, and lime issue? Should i dilute the soil by adding more pro-mix? or would flushing help? I am really unsure of how all of this soil stuff works in general since this is a premixed soil.

blackstrap is better...........less sugar, more minerals. i do believe

I have read that as well but there is no place around here to get black strap so i am using regular unsulphured.

Thanks for your input i will keep it in mind, i am going to let it ride out a little bit longer but would like to know what to do in case things get bad again.

Things have been looking a lot better and growing a lot better in the past week or so sadly though i think i either have another deficiency on the way or the old deficiency is spreading to the younger leaves of the plant, i found these leaves on the younger growth of my white Russian today. i found this video and some of the symptoms seem similar like, interveinal chlorosis of the younger leaves, small leaves, and white or yellowing lead tips, but i'm not so sure only time will tell i guess.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

molasses is molasses....

blackstrap is just un processed, it may be a little better than regular cooking molasses but they both work just fine, the idea for the molases is to feed micro organisms, which eat both......