Tight nodes...Cfl grow...Day 22

Martybutch

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Hey guys just a quick question... :)

I am now at day 22 of my grow (from germination) and my nodes of my plant are very tight with 5 possibly 6 nodes to a 10" plant..

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IS this fine? Are there any benefits and disadvantages to this?

Thanks alot in advance.. Really appreciate the help i get on RIU :leaf:
 

Martybutch

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Great :) thanks for the response, just a shame it's1 to every 62 views for a comment ha.

I dont think i will veg to the point of alternating nodes. I will be flowering next sunday at 4 weeks of veg.

Thanks for the reply zubey :leaf:
 

PetFlora

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My preference is for more stretch between nodes. You might have too much red spectrum. Add ~ 25% more daylight and see
 

AllDayToker

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I'd say you are doing great with the plant. With CFLs you want tight nodes to make tight, solid, buds. Unlike a HPS setup, CFLs cannot pentrate the plant as well due to the low amount of lumens. You want to keep those CFLs within 3in of the plant at least, and tight nodes shows that you have adequit lighting. I might be worried about height though unless you have CFLs to cover the rest of the plant down to the bottom. Need coverage for taller plants using CFLs
 

Martybutch

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Probably because everyone already saw this picture in your other thread you just posted in this same section and they have nothing new to add....lol, just sayin'.
Yeah id agree my bad, still new to all this forum postign biz just widening my advertising (il stick with that :p )

All day toker & petflora - i am currently using a single 250watt dual spectrum. i am considering adding a couple more bulbs for the base of the plant.. What would you suggest for this.

Cheers all gonna lay off the forum now until serious issues arise. its just an exciting first indoor grow. perhaps getting carried away.
 

AllDayToker

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Yeah id agree my bad, still new to all this forum postign biz just widening my advertising (il stick with that :p )

All day toker & petflora - i am currently using a single 250watt dual spectrum. i am considering adding a couple more bulbs for the base of the plant.. What would you suggest for this.

Cheers all gonna lay off the forum now until serious issues arise. its just an exciting first indoor grow. perhaps getting carried away.

I suggest getting 3-4 42w CFLs for coverage around the plant. This should give you nice tight buds and a better yield.
 

dank smoker420

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pretty big for being 22 days old. maybe i just suck at growing seedling... mine are almost 22 days old and they would/ could never look like that
they will also stretch in flower so you want them to stay short during veg
 
Hello to every one.
This is my 1st post and strange that I would run across this question because this is what I was thinking about trying along these lines, any in put from you pro farmers would be greatly appreciated on this subject.


I'm new to "indoor growing" I have grown a few out doors back 20 plus years ago.


So out doors I never had a plant get any more than 6 or so hours of full direct sun light and have grown some monster size plants. Here's what I was wondering due to cost in my medical grow at this point and time I only have 4, 4 foot 2 tube flouros for lighting so this limits what I can do.
I have 5 females that are flowering and looking good at this point and no way to buy any more lighting for awhile to come.
This is what I was thinking of trying.
I have now tryed to clone some lower limbs from the females and they all rooted on my 1st try so I'm thinking about the limited light space I have and how to get the most out of it.


So my lights cover a 2 foot by 4 foot area with the light that can go right to the plant tops and not hurt them so why not grow single clones up 6 inches to a foot tall and flower them in the SOG.
This way in the room I have I could put a clone every 6 inches, 4 per squ/foot and cover the space of 2' x 4' with 32 clones and give them 8 hours of light and rotate 3 settings of 32 plants every 8 hours in and out of the lights and never let them grow over 2 feet tall and get all bud and no stem under this setup with a light to keep a mother plant on the go with the clones under it too at 24/7 lights on.


I can't see it not being the best way to get the most out of my tiny setup, at 32 times 3 rotated at every 8 hours so they get 8 hours light and 12 to 16 hours of dark. You could let them just sit the other 4 hours in a room in indirect light like they would get in the wild in the shaded time of day if you grew them out side. It's the dark that makes the bud and not the light, so if you had a tiny setup like this, would it not be the best way to get more buds pur room than just turning off the lights for 12 hours every day?


Thanks in advance to any input from any one out there!
 

PetFlora

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First- I like the way you think:bigjoint:

If you are going to SOG + swap plants, I recommend small Air Pots- you can grow bigger plants in small APs than traditional grow pots. Hell I use 0.9g APs for my DIY 21st Century F & D

Back to your lighting ideas... (BTW, I have an 8 bulb X 4 ft Bad Boy.) I use various bulbs from the aquarium industry, and swap them in/out depending on stage of growth. I do not follow conventional 'wisdom' (not). I germ 20/4 until 3rd leaf set, then 18/6 for ~ 5 days, the 14/10. Simultaneously, I start out with 2/8 bulbs, and work my way up to 8 bulbs for the duration.

Lately, I have been thinking about how mj matures in nature. We know that the plants spectral requirements change: more red spectrums, minimal blue, BUT also the amount of light (hours per day) and INTENSITY diminishes.

SO, I am thinking to reduce the number of flowering bulbs over the ~ 2 months of flower cycle
from 8> 6>4> 2, dropping 2/week at ~ 7 day intervals.

FYI,For flower cycle I combine Zoomed FloraSun + UVL Red Life + Wave Tech Coral Wave
+ UVL 660 (last 2-3 weeks only)
 
Hi Petflora,

That is some thing else I'm going to do from now on, that's shorten the hours of light to get them to start alternating branch before they go into full flowering plus I think a person could gain from shorting the light time by 15 to 30 minutes a day during the flowering stage, like cut it back 15 minutes every 5 to 7 days so they might put on more hair faster thinking that winter is near and see if it makes them try to get that last chance to seed before it's to late. We know they will put on a male flower trying to seed when no males are there for them in some cases.
So you think rotating 3 or 2 settings would work pretty good? You could build a grow box with 3 sliding shelves 4 1/2' x 4 1/2' x 2 1/2' then raise and lower the light to the level you need for that 8 hours for shelf 1, then raise to shelf 2 for 8 hours then shelf 3 then repeat, and each siding shelf have a light proof door on it.
I think it would work fine, I've just never heard of any one doing any thing a long these lines before and would love to hear what you advanced growing pros think of this idea.

Plus I need to learn what to feed them to boost the size of the buds. I am no
expert and there are so many products out now in that area that all clam to be the best, I need help in that area for sure.
I do also change bulbs and mix the red and blue to about a 70/30 to 80/20% mix so they still have the little bit of red there in the case it needs it during veg stage, and the bit of blue in flowering in case they need it, but your right about more red & less blue as they come to the end of their life.

All help & info from any one is so much appreciated. I need help from
any one that can help me from going out side 25yr ago to indoors in this day & age with all the new tricks that the advanced growers of today have now learnt & what nutes work best to get the most back.

I know these buds the size of 2 liter coke bottles are not just a seed stuck in dirt, there are tricks to getting these results. I now see that cutting the light back a little at a time lets them go into the
alternating branch stage witch will result in longer buds too & this stage is a must have stage. Just as cloning big healthy limbs or (suckers) we called them is going to keep on growing while they are rooting. I also took a few suckers that didn't have any nodes to cut off for roots to grow out of the places where the nodes were at, so I took and scraped the stem and made some wounds on the stems and those clones grew a lot more roots than the ones I just cut the nodes off of, this makes the stem grow a lot more roots but you need to be careful and not scrape to hard or take off all the stems covering either.

So every one that can help me in any way, I sure do thank you in advance.

 

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Thanks Trunks,

your user name reminds me of a 12 foot female plant I grew around 30yr ago that a man made a walking cane out of the stock of the plant. The Stock came out of the ground and then turned up which made for a perfect handle the way it curved.
The plant then branched into 3 main tops around 3 feet tall, & the stock was a little bit bigger around than a coke or beer can was. I should look to see if he ever put any pics of it on the web, which I had never even heard of back then.
 

trunks87

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Thanks Trunks,

your user name reminds me of a 12 foot female plant I grew around 30yr ago that a man made a walking cane out of the stock of the plant. The Stock came out of the ground and then turned up which made for a perfect handle the way it curved.
The plant then branched into 3 main tops around 3 feet tall, & the stock was a little bit bigger around than a coke or beer can was. I should look to see if he ever put any pics of it on the web, which I had never even heard of back then.
Awesome. Now that's my kind of walking stick! Must have been a sight to see.
 
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