WTF? ~ White House Says It's Unconstitutional To Strike Down The NDAA

[canndo]

The Patriot Act made most republican I know blood boil, it goes again everything rightist believe in.

I encountered all sorts of arguments for it, including one that said that the president can do anything he wants to because we can always vote him out of office after 4 years. I know very few republicans back then that were against the patriot act.

 

[canndo]

Did you ever consider that the effectiveness of partisan blinders makes you completely blind to some things?

No, because I am not blind to much. I am a firm believer in the reasonableness and effectiveness of many leftist ideas but I am willing to entertain rightist ideology when it can be proven that it makes sense.

That little of it does, does not make me blind.

 

[ChesusRice]

The problem is fairly obvious.

When we were in the shadow of 9/11, and during the hight of the war in Iraq, we were concious that we were actualy IN a war. No one on the right had a problem with indefinite detention, torture and all the rest of the shinanigans Bush was doing. After all, we were in a war godamnit.

After a time, and especially after Obama took office, we lost sight of the war thing and now that we think we are at peace (even though we are not), these same things that seemed reasonable to so many are not abhorant and are an affront even to the right.

Some of us saw these things as henous from the start - we were called anti-Americans back then. This is unlawful detention, it has always been unlawful detention and is no different now than it was when all the righties spoke out for it, rather than against it under Bush.


The biggest change for the right is.... It isn't their guy doing it. Should Romney win, it will be ok again.

Not anti american
We were called terrorist loving loonie lefties

 

[canndo]

Not anti american
We were called terrorist loving loonie lefties

Traitor, if you will recall. We were muslims, we were children who had no understanding that "these people only respond to violence and strength". We were naive, after all "the constitution is not a suicide pact" is what I heard.

they were running around screaming "they want to KILL us, don't you understand?"

Of course now, they will never admit that.