Fuck Islam

[beenthere]

This was the post to which I responded. You simply said "violence". For you to come after the fact and say "but I meant religious violence only!" won't wash.

Once again, you move your goalposts when it suits you, even as you frantically try to nail your interlocutors down on their use of words. The 5th-grader thing was indeed lame as all ass, and you constructed that one on your own, unassisted. cn

You're a lying little worm and I can prove it.
Go back to my original claim that most lefties mock Christianity but defend Islam, we're talking about the comparison of how the left treat religions. Mr2shim's post that I responded to is below, you deliberately took it out of context and built a strawman with the US military, which to me looks like you are justifying terrorist attacks committed by Islam. Defending Islam lately?

Same could be said about blacks who are murdered for no reason other than being born black and the Bible can be used to justify it. I'm not defending the religious nutjobs of Islam. They're in every religion. To single one out and turn a blind eye to the other is the epitome of hypocritical.

 

[Carne Seca]

You're a lying little worm and I can prove it.
Go back to my original claim that most lefties mock Christianity but defend Islam, we're talking about the comparison of how the left treat religions. Mr2shim's post that I responded to is below, you deliberately took it out of context and built a strawman with the US military, which to me looks like you are justifying terrorist attacks committed by Islam. Defending Islam lately?

The sad part is? You are really too naive, ignorant and FUCKING BLIND to grasp the concept that he answered your question as honestly as he could. Your question was designed as a trap from the get-go. Now all you're doing is attempting to dismantle his credibility (completely impossible) with ad hominem attacks, completely baseless accusations and outright lies. Your question states that "lefties" (a vague stereotype that can be modified to fit your current agenda) are more apt to defend Islam with ZERO evidence or examples to back your claim. I submitted a huge post with a plethora of Bush quotes to fit your criteria of "lefty" and you completely ignored it. Why? It flew in the face of your stupid ass claim.

As Cannabineer pointed out, you keep moving the goal post. You slither and squirm like a fucking slimy eel. But no matter how you twist it we all know you're full of shit. Trying to discredit CN won't change that fact.

 

[Total Head]

i don't know wtf is going on in this thread, but i came here to discuss islam.

i'm american, and as an american i am quite familiar with many sects of christianity and their individual brands of lunacy, and the fact that they bicker among themselves about what a "true christian" is, what is meant by words in the bible, and all that jazz.

what i am not familiar with is the many different sects/denominations of islam. i know there are moderate muslims and radical muslims and this type of muslim and that type of muslim, but i am unfamiliar with what label goes with which behaviors. this leaves me with many many questions, some of which may sound ignorant or silly, but they make me wonder just the same. for me to understand it all i would need to study it around the clock, and i happen to pretend i have a life.

for one, why do muslims get so angry about burning korans (it is apparently blasphemy of the highest order), yet turn around and bomb mosques in the name of a cause, which is basically burning a bunch of korans? is it as simple as shiite vs sunni, or what? it's hypocritical. they know damn well there are korans in that mosque.

why do so many of the anti-american muslims wear nike shoes and drink coca cola and smoke marlboros? also hypocritical.

i saw a muslim girl on a tv program explaining hijab and covering up, but she said they wear name brand fancy clothes and get their hair done up under the burka. i happened upon some religious discussions elsewhere on the interwebs and got the impression that this is pretty widespread. i don't think i understand the muslim definition of "modesty". what is modest about wearing gucci and prada under your burka? and what's the point if no one sees it? isn't that EXTRA indulgent because it's just for yourself?

it seems that even if i were so inclined, i could never understand how people who have so many interpretations of their own faith could collectively look down upon the rest of the world. i know americans do that, but it's not written into law for fuck's sake.

 

[smokinsomeweed]

FUCK Amaximus, hope those mohamad and islam blow up ur crib lol

 

[smokinsomeweed]

jus playin but ur fucked what possesed you to say that its a fuckin site about marijuana people like you y canabis isnt legal ova her

 

[Harrekin]

jus playin but ur fucked what possesed you to say that its a fuckin site about marijuana people like you y canabis isnt legal ova her

Lolwut?

English this time please.

 

[abandonconflict]

i don't know wtf is going on in this thread, but i came here to discuss islam.

i'm american, and as an american i am quite familiar with many sects of christianity and their individual brands of lunacy, and the fact that they bicker among themselves about what a "true christian" is, what is meant by words in the bible, and all that jazz.

what i am not familiar with is the many different sects/denominations of islam. i know there are moderate muslims and radical muslims and this type of muslim and that type of muslim, but i am unfamiliar with what label goes with which behaviors. this leaves me with many many questions, some of which may sound ignorant or silly, but they make me wonder just the same. for me to understand it all i would need to study it around the clock, and i happen to pretend i have a life.

for one, why do muslims get so angry about burning korans (it is apparently blasphemy of the highest order), yet turn around and bomb mosques in the name of a cause, which is basically burning a bunch of korans? is it as simple as shiite vs sunni, or what? it's hypocritical. they know damn well there are korans in that mosque.

why do so many of the anti-american muslims wear nike shoes and drink coca cola and smoke marlboros? also hypocritical.

i saw a muslim girl on a tv program explaining hijab and covering up, but she said they wear name brand fancy clothes and get their hair done up under the burka. i happened upon some religious discussions elsewhere on the interwebs and got the impression that this is pretty widespread. i don't think i understand the muslim definition of "modesty". what is modest about wearing gucci and prada under your burka? and what's the point if no one sees it? isn't that EXTRA indulgent because it's just for yourself?

it seems that even if i were so inclined, i could never understand how people who have so many interpretations of their own faith could collectively look down upon the rest of the world. i know americans do that, but it's not written into law for fuck's sake.

the extremists are politically motivated and trying to rally other Muslims to their cause. I fought in a-Stan in 02 and Iraq in 03 as an airborne infantryman and while "church and state" certainly mingle, I never had eny reason to believe that fundamental extremism was widespread. It is political imo.

By that token, look how riled up Americans get over political rhetoric.

 

[cannabineer]

You're a lying little worm and I can prove it.
Go back to my original claim that most lefties mock Christianity but defend Islam, we're talking about the comparison of how the left treat religions. Mr2shim's post that I responded to is below, you deliberately took it out of context and built a strawman with the US military, which to me looks like you are justifying terrorist attacks committed by Islam. Defending Islam lately?

I think you're conflating my posts with those of others.
As for your original claim, you flatter it by calling it such. It was a premise built into the question, one that you set up to be unassailable. The analogy to the old prosecutor's trap "So when did you stop beating your wife?" is complete.
The only way you can spot me in a lie is for you to make it up from whole cloth. It speaks to your character. cn

 

[beenthere]

I think you're conflating my posts with those of others.
As for your original claim, you flatter it by calling it such. It was a premise built into the question, one that you set up to be unassailable. The analogy to the old prosecutor's trap "So when did you stop beating your wife?" is complete.
The only way you can spot me in a lie is for you to make it up from whole cloth. It speaks to your character. cn

Whatever dude, you got caught playing a game and don't like it, end of story.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

So, who was the first to make the claim that Red was an SFer, Buck or Chesus?

I believe it was Buck.

 

[cannabineer]

Whatever dude, you got caught playing a game and don't like it, end of story.

Nonsense. Now you try to hastily conceal your tracks by calling me the liar. Himmler would be so proud. cn

 

[beenthere]

Now all you're doing is attempting to dismantle his credibility (completely impossible) with ad hominem attacks, completely baseless accusations and outright lies. Your question states that "lefties" (a vague stereotype that can be modified to fit your current agenda) are more apt to defend Islam with ZERO evidence or examples to back your claim. Well this is interesting, you understood the context of my assertion! So tell me, where in the hell did cannabineer come up with the US military? LOL Thank you Carne!
I submitted a huge post with a plethora of Bush quotes to fit your criteria of "lefty" and you completely ignored it. Why? It flew in the face of your stupid ass claim. Sorry bro, didn't see it, but thanks again for pointing out cannabineer's strawman!

As Cannabineer pointed out, you keep moving the goal post. You slither and squirm like a fucking slimy eel. But no matter how you twist it we all know you're full of shit. Trying to discredit CN won't change that fact.

Actually cannabineer proved my premise that lefties defend Islam, he used the US military as justification for their terrorist attacks!

Damn Carne, thanks a bunch for throwing your buddy under the bus!

Although cannabineer is probably calling you a stupid fuck under his breath! LOL

 

[cannabineer]

Actually cannabineer proved my premise that lefties defend Islam, he used the US military as justification for their terrorist attacks!

Damn Carne, thanks a bunch for throwing your buddy under the bus!

Now I'm certain you're conflating my posts with another's. Show the post where I did this. cn

 

[beenthere]

Nonsense. Now you try to hastily conceal your tracks by calling me the liar. Himmler would be so proud. cn

I don't have to do shit my friend, it's out in the open for everyone to see.
Hell, even your buddy Carne understood the context of my post. lol

 

[Padawanbater2]

You still haven't demonstrated how anything other than an attack against Islam is a defense of Islam.

If I said "Muslims have the right to peacefully protest in America", to you, that is a defense of Islam when the reality of the situation is the First Amendment guarantees that right to all American citizens.

Do you see the issue here?

 

[Harrekin]

You still haven't demonstrated how anything other than an attack against Islam is a defense of Islam.

If I said "Muslims have the right to peacefully protest in America", to you, that is a defense of Islam when the reality of the situation is the First Amendment guarantees that right to all American citizens.

Do you see the issue here?

Hes gone to the Speshul Errlermpics, hence his lack of logical abilities.

 

[Carne Seca]

I don't have to do shit my friend, it's out in the open for everyone to see.
Hell, even your buddy Carne understood the context of my post. lol

Hey! Charlie Sheen. You're not winning.

 

[beenthere]

You still haven't demonstrated how anything other than an attack against Islam is a defense of Islam.

If I said "Muslims have the right to peacefully protest in America", to you, that is a defense of Islam when the reality of the situation is the First Amendment guarantees that right to all American citizens.

Do you see the issue here?

Why is it that the lefties can label the right as racist, but they never provide any proof that the right as a whole is racist, I've yet to see a leftie on this forum challenge that accusation by asking for proof, have you?

Proving someones opinion is a difficult task, especially when that opinion is radical. Google "why does the left defend Islam" why do so many others think the same as I do?

Example: Most lefties want to tax the wealthy and redistribute that wealth to the poor, ask them if they are poor and needing assistance and most will say no, they refuse to admit it. So you have to ask yourself, how can that many people be voting against their own best interest, I know I do not and to be honest I don't anyone who does.

 

[abandonconflict]

Typical righty beating wardrums and lacking the balls to enlist

 

[Padawanbater2]

Why is it that the lefties can label the right as racist, but they never provide any proof that the right as a whole is racist, I've yet to see a leftie on this forum challenge that accusation by asking for proof, have you?

Proving someones opinion is a difficult task, especially when that opinion is radical. Google "why does the left defend Islam" why do so many others think the same as I do?

Example: Most lefties want to tax the wealthy and redistribute that wealth to the poor, ask them if they are poor and needing assistance and most will say no, they refuse to admit it. So you have to ask yourself, how can that many people be voting against their own best interest, I know I do not and to be honest I don't anyone who does.

Look, man..

Your rhetoric alone screams bipartisanship, anyone reading it can tell that. You've already made whatever abstract subjective opinion of the left into the enemy. You've fallen for the game hook line and sinker which is why I asked you your age a few comments back, because I used to too.

But you know what? It doesn't help you, it doesn't help me, and the country is worse off as a whole because there are so many people who live here who think exactly the same as you do, that we have to demonize everyone else who doesn't think exactly the same as us. Just take a look, you've even bought into the buzzwords the pundits spit to elicit an emotional response - lefties, socialist, liberals, progressive, etc. You are doing exactly what the people in power want you to do. You are leading the charge because you refuse to actually take a moment to consider the implications of your current actions because of your pride. You've been raised to believe your pride is the most important thing. Never back down, no matter what, even if you're wrong about something. Americans are NEVER WRONG!

Take a step back. Listen to what I am telling you right now. I am not your enemy. Any person you perceive to be on the left is not your enemy. You, me, canna, canndo, nodrama, all of us are in it together. This shit does nothing to help any of us. Not a thing. It never has and never will. It serves to divide us. We will never grow as a country if we cannot get past it. How are we supposed to overcome the shit that is actually fucking with our lives if we can't even come together and agree on a single goddamn thing? What is the point in focusing on everything that separates us and nothing that connects us?


Just stop, man. You have the power to just stop this shit all by yourself. Stop buying into it. Stop believing what any politician says to you and start believing what they fucking DO to you. Their actions speak louder than words.

When you come across someone you perceive to be on the far left, instead of arguing with them about something completely insignificant (like this entire thread), beat it with facts, knowledge, civil debate. The recent thread 'Paul supporter v. Romney supporter' is a picture perfect example of what I am talking about. If you haven't seen that thread, I'll link it in the next post. Watch that video in the OP. The man stands there and DEMONSTRATES HOW AND WHY he believes his opponent is wrong, in the end you are left with a clear victor. Something you absolutely never see in threads like these because nobody will admit defeat or they were wrong about any goddamn thing.

On that note, I'll wrap this up with this..

It is a sign of courage and strength to recognize when you are wrong and to admit it when it happens. It's a sign of intelligence finding the right answer so you're no longer ignorant of the reality in which you speak.


Right now you have two choices. You can brush this off as another lefties progressive bullshit, or you can sit down, stop, think and set your pride aside and make yourself a better man.