Help? Choosing a strain?

My first grow turned out to be a male, very disappointing. I want to order seeds for the first time what would you suggest? I didn't have any problems with my first grow and it was a hydro set up. I live in an area where people don't take pride in their product they sell you a bag of what they call kush and that's that. I want some quality! Every time I smoke said kush of the area, it makes me feel like a zombie ( kinda like a spice high) I get a huge mental block, I get super tired and the high only lasts about 30 min. I know its not spice... With that being said any suggestions of strains? Ive been thinking of white widow, pineapple express, northern lights mainly cause I know they are potent and well known. I am willing to try anything. I'm a heavy smoker but I do not smoke for medicinal purposes. I'm looking for real potent strain for bad days and a good uppy high strain for everyday smoke. Any ideas on why kush makes me feel this way?
 

jimdandy

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The word "kush" is hot right now and what sells. Where Im at, they refer to anything sinsemilla as kush. Why because it sells!!! Man there are so many choices to choose from to fit your needs. I dont know where to start. Tell a little more about your setup. do you use seed or clone? How many plants?
 

jimdandy

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Never mind the seed or clone question. Just go to attitude and cruise the brands. See something you like, do a google search for grow and smoke report on said strain. That should give you a little idea where to start.
 

hazey grapes

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i only like to get high myself, so stony kushes and other afghani doms don't impress me either. i'll just tell you my personal favorites and compare differences in strains that get you high.

my #1 fave is TGA's jack's cleaner 2. it's a 9 week strain with genuine trippiness and visuals! it does have a stony body thump, but not a full on KO. it totally compensates for that with a warm and fuzzy full body euphoria that's REALLY "touchy feely". i started laughing like a mofo when i noticed that i was imagining invisible ripples of tie dye color emanating from where i was massaging my arms and chest just because it felt good. it not that light floaty feeling you'd get from real columbian gold, but it's very distinctive "feel good" weed. i DESPISE getting stoned mind you. JC2 is upbeat, just a bit heavy. his jack the ripper is even more highly regarded and probably trippier and racier. i can't deal with the name, but JC2 is nice enough. i'm eager to try the third dimension too. TGA strains in general are much loved

my second favorite strain is DNA's sweet haze. it's stretchy and lower yielding like an IBL, but it's also a 9 week strain and the best fruity haze i've ever had so far. it's extra fruity with crazy sticky, and wet if mold is an issue, buds that unlike generic hazes, has real psychoactivity too. DNA strains have top to bottom quality in all 3 i've tried. skunk #1 is too boring and stony to impress me, but their lemon skunk loses the stone and is more motivational and euphoric, along the lines of a clear headed watered down generic haze with a nicer lemongrass taste and a really sexy golden color that compliments the flavor unlike "1 dimensional" strains like whites that are harsh and flavorless at the expense of as much resin as possible. it's a fast flowering strain too. even their sour cream which has a moderate stone much like a skunk #1 or blueberry is impressive as it has a crazy delicious cream cheese flavor with hints of sweet fruit. the buzz would be considered above average in an area with nothing but stony cash crapper strains, but the flavor is off the charts! it's better tasting than blueberry to me, though it's too stony for my tastes. if i were to grow a stoner bud for variety, it'd be that one or MAYBE my tart cherry SOMA buddha's sister. i haven't tried that one yet. SC has some odor, but it's not too bad. i got by without a scrubber with that and 4 little masterkush autos.

high quality seeds haze x skunk is like an AK-47 for sativas. it's a $28 cheap strain that really gets you high. it has a less than appealing cheesy cigar wrapper flavor (awesome if you like blunts) from the 12.5% afghani still in it, but unlike even pure (?) columbian gold, you never get worse than lead eye even after a full month of constant blazing. it's a 12 week strain and a little stretchy, but it would respond well to SCROGging and LST. it has a cool "single bud ever couple inches" pattern perfect for scrogging. the buzz is very strong and long lasting to the point you still feel it the next day. it has some trippiness, but isn't as visual as gold, but it's way stickier and potent. it's surprisingly smooth too for it's potency. i don't remember woofing once in it though once i got my 1st taste of it's high, i blazed a deeper 3rd & 4th hit that did trigger light visuals along with that room spinning nausea thing, but not as bad as i've had on gold. after that, i respected it's limits better. very motivational! i lost 10 pounds in a month on it ignoring my hunger and quit my 6 pack of red dog a night habit cold turkey too. by the time i ran out of it smoking a lot every day, it had built up in my system so i had a 24/7 light high with traces of low grade nausea that were easy to tune out by keeping busy. if it wasn't a toxic buildup, it was from hunger, but it felt similar to the room spinning kind, just way milder. i wouldn't want to blaze it 24/7, but if you want a potent old school high, it delivers!

mandala's 8 miles high won't return 'till next year, but it's a great buzz at the other end of the spectrum. it's much mellower and friendlier, much like a generic haze, but with it's own personality. it's energy profile was perfectly neutral... no stone at all, but no raciness either, just a nice happy playful vibe that's 24/7 friendly. you can do activities on it, but you can chill out to music and movies too. similar to gold's light & floaty high, it offers precise body control. it loves music and dancing and i felt like i'd been doing the robot my whole life when i started goofing around on it. it's much more noob friendly than haze skunk with close to the same level of trippiness. i just think of it as a goldilocks strain that does everything just right. it doesn't have any intense "WOW!" factors other than a fun happy high, but it doesn't do anything wrong either. i might pick that as a desert island strain. his satori is supposed to be way nicer. not a fan of that name either, but it and ace's bhangi haze are one high flier here's top 2 faves so it can't be shabby. 8MH is very nice in it's own right for sure.

you can't get joey weed C99 or A11 anymore, but those are two great jack hybrids that take no more than 55 days. cindy is more clearheaded and racy like something between a generic haze and just try and sit still on it kali mist while apollo is a mellower trippier offspring. C99 is a nice contrast strain, especially if you want something for activities and work, but it isn't as mellow or trippy for chilling out like JC2 or sweet haze. it's a 1 dimensional buzz that's all about keeping busy and not getting stupid. i'd go more for apollo i'm sure. it's trippier and easier to chill on. both strains are in and out of the market and in a lot of crosses like TGA jillybean and A13. C99 in particular leans towards low odor.

if you want a moderately stony but functional, but nice and potent fast finishing jack hybrid that's cash cropper style, CH9's jack isn't shabby. it looks like a little indica, but isn't skunky at all. i liked sweet haze and JC2 more, but it surprised me as i was prepared to hate it when it looked like an indy. i'm going to test it again for a clearer picture. i think it's best trait is potency. it makes huge seeds too. i'm also going to test their jack 33 as that one is supposed to be extra euphoric and i'm hoping above average too.

sannie's gear is supposed to be great across the board. i've heard that their hideously named killing fields is no joke in the trippy haze department much like JTR. i have my eye on much nicer named jack f7 as it's supposed to be one of the best herers in the world. i want to put it up against JC2, the third dimension, jack, critical jack and others to see if it's my new fave. their chocolate rain is popular too, but i think i'd get DNA chocolope before that as it doesn't have blueberry in it and should be less stony hopefully.

that's the best of the best that i've tried so far. i ONLY grow for quality, so i don't stress over yield and how fast a plant finishes. if all you have around is OGs, then i guarantee you'll surprise your peeps with almost everything here. strains that get you high are very hard to come by on the streets as you know. that's about all i grow.

hope that helps you find some new faves.
 
Thanks for the fast replies. Very helpful forum! I know that I have never smoked bud that could even touch the quality of these strains. I'm like a kid in a candy store right now, complete awe at the variety. I will definitely get jacks cleaner 2. Thinking about G13 Blueberry gum, Dutch Passion think different auto and maybe a white widow or the lemon skunk or both.
 

canna_420

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Thanks for the fast replies. Very helpful forum! I know that I have never smoked bud that could even touch the quality of these strains. I'm like a kid in a candy store right now, complete awe at the variety. I will definitely get jacks cleaner 2. Thinking about G13 Blueberry gum, Dutch Passion think different auto and maybe a white widow or the lemon skunk or both.
Be weary with dutch passion, their older stock is hermie prone and I aint seen any reports on newer stuff.
Lemon Skunk is pretty good I did rokerij's version. As greenhouse seeds are as reputable as Monsanto

If you look at a good seedbank you will get a good few of them free.

Like attitude gives a few
but seaof seeds as great promos and better price than attitude with a 11% discount.

they dont do singles though attitude does
 

Clankie

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Dutch Passion's genetics aren't that particularly great these days, both from what I've heard and what I've seen in others' gardens. Are you growing outside? I don't particularly understand the appeal of autoflowering strains unless you are going to be running males and females to produce your own seed. The inability to productively clone or run mothers that are autoflowering turns me off, but breeding in those nasty ruderalis genetics turns me off even more.

I'm running some satori from Mandala which is a sativa bred to grow like an indica, and both distinct phenos I got look like they will be in the higher end for potency. Sensitive to nutes, but all phenos look like big producers, and have mainly pungent fruity/berry scents, with various other tones. One is more bushy and one is more of a fat main stem plant, but both phenos (4 girls out of 6 seeds started) stayed at a very manageable height. Supposed to have a very potent uplifting/psychedelic sativa high, still have three to four weeks left and the buds are covered in trichs, so that's a good sign.
 

Grojak

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Check out Next Generation... Dynamite is an easy grower you'll love.. I know a guy who swears by his Grapegod cut so much he just ordered 15 more to try to find a keeper male to bx back into his clone. Any of their Grapefruit crosses use that Dynamite it's so floral and aromatic, major bag appeal!!!
 

calicat

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You can also use search engines like leafly.com and kindgreenbuds.com. That can narrow down the search of the strain catered to your needs.
 

hazey grapes

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instead of white widow, get a nice fruity strain, or a cheese. white strains suck in the flavor department and smoke harsh. they're just eye candy like a lot of inferior purple strains. stick with quality over quantity. sure, a frosty bud LOOKS impressive, especially if you're trying to get rid of it quickly, but if you put something harsh smoking up against something better tasting, like a blueberry, THAT's what people will go for. i'd smoke BB before widow any day and i have smoked blue widow, you could barely taste the BB. i was very unimpressed. sour cream is way better tasting with a similar kind of buzz. bubblegum or bubbleberry would also be better, i'm expecting my buddha's sister to be tasty, grape krush or grape stomper would be better. cheese is always popular. even maple leaf indica would be a nicer smoke than widow. it's frozen fast food man. LOL

look into TGA strains. jillybean would walk all over WW. it's stoney, but laugh your ass off euphoric and he has a lot of interesting flavor strains like plushberry. trust me, good modern indoor strains do not suffer much for potency. WW gives up overally quality for just as many resin glands as possible. it's as 1 dimensional as a strain can get. there's tons of stony hybrids that are better, i dare say um... OG kush is even better. that changing your mind?

pineapple chunk & express... i'm not sure how stony those 2 are, but i'll bet a nickel most stoners would rather blaze them than widow too. actually, if you read the smoke report forums, hardly anyone is growing WW. there's a reason for that
 

Barrelhse

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i only like to get high myself, so stony kushes and other afghani doms don't impress me either. i'll just tell you my personal favorites and compare differences in strains that get you high.

my #1 fave is TGA's jack's cleaner 2. it's a 9 week strain with genuine trippiness and visuals! it does have a stony body thump, but not a full on KO. it totally compensates for that with a warm and fuzzy full body euphoria that's REALLY "touchy feely". i started laughing like a mofo when i noticed that i was imagining invisible ripples of tie dye color emanating from where i was massaging my arms and chest just because it felt good. it not that light floaty feeling you'd get from real columbian gold, but it's very distinctive "feel good" weed. i DESPISE getting stoned mind you. JC2 is upbeat, just a bit heavy. his jack the ripper is even more highly regarded and probably trippier and racier. i can't deal with the name, but JC2 is nice enough. i'm eager to try the third dimension too. TGA strains in general are much loved

my second favorite strain is DNA's sweet haze. it's stretchy and lower yielding like an IBL, but it's also a 9 week strain and the best fruity haze i've ever had so far. it's extra fruity with crazy sticky, and wet if mold is an issue, buds that unlike generic hazes, has real psychoactivity too. DNA strains have top to bottom quality in all 3 i've tried. skunk #1 is too boring and stony to impress me, but their lemon skunk loses the stone and is more motivational and euphoric, along the lines of a clear headed watered down generic haze with a nicer lemongrass taste and a really sexy golden color that compliments the flavor unlike "1 dimensional" strains like whites that are harsh and flavorless at the expense of as much resin as possible. it's a fast flowering strain too. even their sour cream which has a moderate stone much like a skunk #1 or blueberry is impressive as it has a crazy delicious cream cheese flavor with hints of sweet fruit. the buzz would be considered above average in an area with nothing but stony cash crapper strains, but the flavor is off the charts! it's better tasting than blueberry to me, though it's too stony for my tastes. if i were to grow a stoner bud for variety, it'd be that one or MAYBE my tart cherry SOMA buddha's sister. i haven't tried that one yet. SC has some odor, but it's not too bad. i got by without a scrubber with that and 4 little masterkush autos.

high quality seeds haze x skunk is like an AK-47 for sativas. it's a $28 cheap strain that really gets you high. it has a less than appealing cheesy cigar wrapper flavor (awesome if you like blunts) from the 12.5% afghani still in it, but unlike even pure (?) columbian gold, you never get worse than lead eye even after a full month of constant blazing. it's a 12 week strain and a little stretchy, but it would respond well to SCROGging and LST. it has a cool "single bud ever couple inches" pattern perfect for scrogging. the buzz is very strong and long lasting to the point you still feel it the next day. it has some trippiness, but isn't as visual as gold, but it's way stickier and potent. it's surprisingly smooth too for it's potency. i don't remember woofing once in it though once i got my 1st taste of it's high, i blazed a deeper 3rd & 4th hit that did trigger light visuals along with that room spinning nausea thing, but not as bad as i've had on gold. after that, i respected it's limits better. very motivational! i lost 10 pounds in a month on it ignoring my hunger and quit my 6 pack of red dog a night habit cold turkey too. by the time i ran out of it smoking a lot every day, it had built up in my system so i had a 24/7 light high with traces of low grade nausea that were easy to tune out by keeping busy. if it wasn't a toxic buildup, it was from hunger, but it felt similar to the room spinning kind, just way milder. i wouldn't want to blaze it 24/7, but if you want a potent old school high, it delivers!

mandala's 8 miles high won't return 'till next year, but it's a great buzz at the other end of the spectrum. it's much mellower and friendlier, much like a generic haze, but with it's own personality. it's energy profile was perfectly neutral... no stone at all, but no raciness either, just a nice happy playful vibe that's 24/7 friendly. you can do activities on it, but you can chill out to music and movies too. similar to gold's light & floaty high, it offers precise body control. it loves music and dancing and i felt like i'd been doing the robot my whole life when i started goofing around on it. it's much more noob friendly than haze skunk with close to the same level of trippiness. i just think of it as a goldilocks strain that does everything just right. it doesn't have any intense "WOW!" factors other than a fun happy high, but it doesn't do anything wrong either. i might pick that as a desert island strain. his satori is supposed to be way nicer. not a fan of that name either, but it and ace's bhangi haze are one high flier here's top 2 faves so it can't be shabby. 8MH is very nice in it's own right for sure.

you can't get joey weed C99 or A11 anymore, but those are two great jack hybrids that take no more than 55 days. cindy is more clearheaded and racy like something between a generic haze and just try and sit still on it kali mist while apollo is a mellower trippier offspring. C99 is a nice contrast strain, especially if you want something for activities and work, but it isn't as mellow or trippy for chilling out like JC2 or sweet haze. it's a 1 dimensional buzz that's all about keeping busy and not getting stupid. i'd go more for apollo i'm sure. it's trippier and easier to chill on. both strains are in and out of the market and in a lot of crosses like TGA jillybean and A13. C99 in particular leans towards low odor.

if you want a moderately stony but functional, but nice and potent fast finishing jack hybrid that's cash cropper style, CH9's jack isn't shabby. it looks like a little indica, but isn't skunky at all. i liked sweet haze and JC2 more, but it surprised me as i was prepared to hate it when it looked like an indy. i'm going to test it again for a clearer picture. i think it's best trait is potency. it makes huge seeds too. i'm also going to test their jack 33 as that one is supposed to be extra euphoric and i'm hoping above average too.

sannie's gear is supposed to be great across the board. i've heard that their hideously named killing fields is no joke in the trippy haze department much like JTR. i have my eye on much nicer named jack f7 as it's supposed to be one of the best herers in the world. i want to put it up against JC2, the third dimension, jack, critical jack and others to see if it's my new fave. their chocolate rain is popular too, but i think i'd get DNA chocolope before that as it doesn't have blueberry in it and should be less stony hopefully.

that's the best of the best that i've tried so far. i ONLY grow for quality, so i don't stress over yield and how fast a plant finishes. if all you have around is OGs, then i guarantee you'll surprise your peeps with almost everything here. strains that get you high are very hard to come by on the streets as you know. that's about all i grow.

hope that helps you find some new faves.
I want whatever you smoked before you wrote that.
 
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