Why are my plants Wilting/Dieing so quickly

[dodotheclown]

Does anyone have any ideas why my plants wilted and died so quickly.
I am using a Bubbleponic System with RO Water. I have 2 air stones with air pump, 12 Gallon tote, 8 - 3" baskets .

My plants were doing great but i wanted to add nutrients and change the water.
I change the water and added Botanical nutrients according to the schedule
12 Gallons of RO Water
15mls/Gallon of Pure Blend Pro Grow 3-2-4
6 mls/Gallon of Cal-Mag Plus
10 mls/Gallon of Liquid Karma

My plants started wilting with in hours of changing the water.
These pics were taken 24 hours later

Does anyone have any idea what i did wrong. Please Help

Thanks

 

[Dalek Supreme]

I do not know Botanical but rule of thumb is not to go by nute label strengths.From established seedling 1/8 th strength of label and work your way up watching your plants as they grow and back off at signs of stress.I would dump and redo if you feel there is hope,and aim for 6 ph if you can measure ph.I find some nutes I can work 40-50% strength of label for an established plant.

I would link this in the plant problem thread...maybe you just blasted them with light to quickly but doubt it?

 

[Soupsah]

Are your roots touching the water? Looks like they are thirsty and not any type of nute issue.

 

[dodotheclown]

Yes my roots are touching the water
I added the Nutrients at Full Strength according to the label. Next time i will do the 1/8 strength and ramp up.
I also combined all my nutrients in one container full strength and then added them to my reservoir

 

[BigBuddahCheese]

Over feeding for sure. DWC is always LESS is MORE. Speaking for myself I start at 1/4 strength for small seedlings until about 3-4 true nodes then its 1/2 strength. My veggers only get 14-18" in height then its off to scrog and Flower.

Temps have a lot to do as well I use as a rule of thumb over 85F and cut your usually dosage in half, because the plants will absorb more water then nutes for sure during that time trying to compensate for the above norm temps.

 

[zem]

dodotheclown although I think it's now maybe too late, I suggest you put just tap water and flush try make em recover, what is the source of your RO water? either it's fucked up, or you severely fucked up the dosage, they definitely dont like where they are... flush flush flush!

 

[zem]

I also think you need 4 airstones instead of 2 but thats not why they died so quick, do you have your own RO filter?

 

[nitro harley]

Yes my roots are touching the water
I added the Nutrients at Full Strength according to the label. Next time i will do the 1/8 strength and ramp up.
I also combined all my nutrients in one container full strength and then added them to my reservoir

When you say you combined all of your nutrient in one container full strength...and then added them to your resevoir.........I am not sure exactly what you meant....

You would never want to mix your nutes together before you mix it in the water...?......maybe you didn't do that...but if you did that could be your problem....

I mix my nutes one at a time in my res..then I adjust my PH....then I add it to my buckets.......You can check out my opp at the bottom of this post....I am not rigged up like you but same concept.........nitro...

 

[Malevolence]

Those are poisoned with way too many nutes.

 

[dbkick]

water temps? I've done some pretty heavy feeding and never seen something wilt like that, nutrient toxicity usually damages/burns over a period of time, the way op talks this is sudden . plus using the manufactures feeding shedule isn't gonna cause this.

 

[machead]

if the roots aren't touching the water how often have u got the pump on to spray them? as if u may want the spray to come on more often i would say they not getting enough feed

 

[OLD DUDE]

What is your ppms?? It does look like they are not getting water, but if the roots are in the water, that's not it! Put just plain water back into the res and see what happens! With Botanicare you can mix the nutes with no problem and store them in the fridge for a week or two but, two is pushing it I would think!

 

[scotty bagmonster]

recalibrate your ph meter ,then use a ph dropper kit to check that your ph meter is functioning properly ,and then use ppm calibration solution to check ppm ,then use a thermometer to check your res temp . check everything twice ....if your in hydro and your not using these ''TOOLS'' you might as well be in dirt ! hope you have access to the tools of the trade.

 

[riddler]

Why is everyone saying too much nutes? looks like too much water..

Water temps?
Is the water touching the rockwool cubes? are the cubes soaked right now?
Seen similar issues when water level was too high cube got soaked and they wilted right down

 

[BigBuddahCheese]

Why is everyone saying too much nutes? looks like too much water..

Water temps?
Is the water touching the rockwool cubes? are the cubes soaked right now?
Seen similar issues when water level was too high cube got soaked and they wilted right down

Too much water? I keep my water at bottom of net pots entire grow, sometimes 1" into the net pot with no I'll effects. I highly doubt it is the water unless its the PH, Temp or some other environmental problem other then too much.

 

[riddler]

But does your rockwool end up soaked?

 

[skunky33]

Full strength? come one...They're probably unable to upload any water or nutes since your roots have to have higher concentrations than the medium. Change the water add 1/8th the nutrients. Simple

 

[dtischerd]

ok..i'll take a stab at it.

you said 2 airstones and a air pump for a 12 gallon tote.

what you didnt say is what type of airstones and what type of air pump.

if you have 2 dinky airstones and a crappy air pump it is quite possible that they are drowning in the water.

i'm running RDWC with 2x5 gal buckets(total of 7 gallons of water) with a 3/4 feed line hooked to a 160 gal water pump,and 2x3/4 return lines.

i also have 2x4" round air stones hooked to a GH dual diaphram air pump,and 1x6" airstone in my rez..which gives plenty of oxygen..even though the roots are packed in the bucket.

also the only time i ever had wilting like you have is when i did a rez change with 38 degree water..she didnt like it one bit..soo i brought up the water temp to about 60 degrees and the next morning she was all good..didnt miss a beat.

so i'm thinking its either not enough air or your water temp is to cold.

just my 2 cents.

 

[UVRay]

looks like classic fatal root shock by changing chemistry with cold tap water that may be 10-15 degrees colder than the temp. in the tanks. I've seen it kill a healthy looking clone recently right after the new water was added. It was ph balanced with no nutes, it was just way too cold.