Does the Politics section have a purpose?

VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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Fighting back and forth about what party is better or that the government is wrong/right, does any of this have an effect on others?

I see almost all people here are already set in their stance on these topics, so is this just a place to vent and try to make ones self feel better?

Has anyone on here changed their political stance or been encouraged to go into politics and fight for what is right?

When you post here, what is the main purpose of your post? To tell people about stuff that has been shown in the news or online over and over? Do you think your posts are making a difference and helping the world become a better place?
 
canndo

canndo

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I think that I am influenced by others opinions here - I have had my ideology changed in other sites like this one. The same, nowever could be asked of anyone who loves to talk sports.


Has anyone adopted a new favorite football team as a result of discussions on such a site? How about religion? anyone been converted from christianity to islam over such a site?

The excercise here is being aware of events that have an influence on our lives and honing our debating and thinking skills (some of us anyway)
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Imo the Politics forum serves one very valuable purpose: even when all the rest of the Café is crickets and tumbleweeds, there's always something happening here. cn
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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It prevents political discussion from spilling out into the other forums.

It has a very important purpose.
 
Smirgen

Smirgen

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Carne Seca said:
He really gets under your skin, doesn't he? You snark at him and about him every chance you get. LOL
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LOL! Why so mad?
When you and buck get through shooting on each others chest you should share a meal courtesy of Smirgen.



Boner appetit
 
deprave

deprave

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to be honest it really doesn't, only when people want to talk substance but 99% of the time thats not the case, if you put yourself out there then you can learn some things and teach others some things but mainly its just petty bickering here.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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I think I've had my mind changed on capital punishment, maybe.

I'm waffling but I've been presented with strong arguments against when I was positive at one time that it was appropriate.

If I could accomplish anything arguing on these boards it would be to educate people on the evils, ignorance and conceit of Keynesian economics. Those that read Krugman are too far gone to use logic instead of feelings though, so it's almost fruitless.

edit: what hurts the cause for me to be totally against capital punishment is the same people against are generally in the camp that it's cool as long as Obama is doing it and are pro-abortion.
 
canndo

canndo

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ginwilly said:
I think I've had my mind changed on capital punishment, maybe.

I'm waffling but I've been presented with strong arguments against when I was positive at one time that it was appropriate.

If I could accomplish anything arguing on these boards it would be to educate people on the evils, ignorance and conceit of Keynesian economics. Those that read Krugman are too far gone to use logic instead of feelings though, so it's almost fruitless.

edit: what hurts the cause for me to be totally against capital punishment is the same people against are generally in the camp that it's cool as long as Obama is doing it and are pro-abortion.
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I can't recall ever having met someone who was pro-abortion. That is like saying that conservatives are pro-pollution.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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canndo said:
I can't recall ever having met someone who was pro-abortion. That is like saying that conservatives are pro-pollution.
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When I see stats listed claiming the aborted children would be on welfare and a drain on society I tend to believe they are pro-abortion.

Just another form of Eugenics to some.
 
canndo

canndo

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ginwilly said:
When I see stats listed claiming the aborted children would be on welfare and a drain on society I tend to believe they are pro-abortion.

Just another form of Eugenics to some.
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You don't think that otherwise aborted children would be on welfare? What do you think of personhood?
 
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CC Dobbs

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VILEPLUME said:
Fighting back and forth about what party is better or that the government is wrong/right, does any of this have an effect on others?

I see almost all people here are already set in their stance on these topics, so is this just a place to vent and try to make ones self feel better?

Has anyone on here changed their political stance or been encouraged to go into politics and fight for what is right?

When you post here, what is the main purpose of your post? To tell people about stuff that has been shown in the news or online over and over? Do you think your posts are making a difference and helping the world become a better place?
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I think the political forum provides a safe haven for people who don't mind arguing the same point over, and over, and over, and over again.

It gives the hopeful a last stand.

It allows people the comfortable feeling that they are participating in a democracy just because they are able to write their opinions and not get arrested.

It's a place that people can use to direct their anger away from loved ones.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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canndo said:
You don't think that otherwise aborted children would be on welfare? What do you think of personhood?
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Not necessarily. They could be Tim Tebow too (is that an argument FOR abortion?). FTR I'm pro-choice so I know the difference. I honestly get an icky feeling over some of the arguments leading me to believe pro-abortion people exist just as i KNOW Eugenics people exist.

Not a fan of personhood but transparency could make it a non issue. How much from who and who benefits? Limiting how much a corporation or union can donate didn't really stop them from funneling money through other sources.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
ginwilly said:
When I see stats listed claiming the aborted children would be on welfare and a drain on society I tend to believe they are pro-abortion.

Just another form of Eugenics to some.
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For abortion to be eugenics, it would have to be systematic with criteria. China tiptoes on that boundary with its selective and somewhat retroactive abortion of newborn girls. But to me, eugenics smacks of improving the breed, which would require selective and systematically encouraged abortion of fetuses with undesirable characteristics beyond the random, like Down's. cn
 
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