The UK Growers Thread!

[MajorCoco]

That's the whole point, it never goes to court but in response yes it does hold up.

A contract can NOT be digitally signed per the Bill of Exchange act, nor can it be signed by a none human entity as they have no 'right or mind' to enter into contract.

The Bills of Exchange act has not been superseded, a link to the latest available (revised).
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/45-46/61

Fair enough if it never makes it to court, but what I meant was that there is other legislation relating to contract law which has more bearing on this. Contract law says that you can sign a contract digitally, irrespective of what is said in the bill of exchange (which by the way is relevant to only a very specific type of contract, such as the contract the bank of england is under to print money and guarantee its value).

http://www.legislation.gov.uk//ukpga/2000/7

 

[3eyes]

And here's a copy of the first letter to be sent, giving whoever it concerns 10 days to reply.

Fucking water-tight!


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I couldn't get it in 1 shot,sorry.

I've read a bit into this type of defence against debt and and also court action some people have had success others have been locked up i know a lorry driver that has been using it to get out of a speeding fine and ended up with 8 points instead of 3 and £650 fine instead of £60 the last i heard he was waiting for an appeal there's also a video of a guy arresting a judge in court on youtube it's interesting stuff but check this out 1st http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/18/freeman-land-strategy-bullet-debt

 

[supersillybilly]

Litigation is always 50/50 no matter how airtight your case is. Trust me

 

[mad dog bark]

peeps who do time over it is mainly due to court contemptr and thats down not researching and thinking read 1 article and then u no legal jargen, doesnt happen if thats all u use and i woodnt even try it on a goverment or tax related thingy unless u claim independants from goverment and there for there legislations (which r only legal through peoples acceptance)
but anywyas as pukka says it friday wheres the porn? dogs chickens midgets i dont mind just want porn haha
i repotted today and soil and roots broke in half and disintergrated to dust.was to fragile to try and hook any dead roots out i felt b doing more harm them good, point to this is will i need something to eat up the dead roots to avoid root rot? or could i get away with it without? if need wots th cheapest stuff on market???

 

[The Yorkshireman]

I've read a bit into this type of defence against debt and and also court action some people have had success others have been locked up i know a lorry driver that has been using it to get out of a speeding fine and ended up with 8 points instead of 3 and £650 fine instead of £60 the last i heard he was waiting for an appeal there's also a video of a guy arresting a judge in court on youtube it's interesting stuff but check this out 1st http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/18/freeman-land-strategy-bullet-debt

Eye, I read that article myself a few weeks ago. The writer doesn't explain it properly, there's a difference between the freeman approach and using their failure to abide by contract law against themselves.

The guy that arrests the judge on youtube is called 'Rusty', he lives 2 streets on from my dads house in Burnley.
He grows weed and sells DVD's (on a massive scale), he is one of the last few people to declare himself a freeman on the land. Sent his affidavit to the queen all properly (the problem with doing that now is Solicitors won't witness them anymore,he went through more than 30 before he got his done), if he get's busted for growing weed (which he has) he claims his common law right to free enterprise (Magna Carta) and claims the 'Misuse of drugs act' doesn't apply to him because he is doesn't consent to be governed by legislation. He has also insured himself for about £5.000.000 and bills the Police force for taking up his time, they know he grows weed but don't do anything about it anymore because he wins and it ends up costing them money.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

but what I meant was that there is other legislation relating to contract law which has more bearing on this. Contract law says that you can sign a contract digitally, irrespective of what is said in the bill of exchange (which by the way is relevant to only a very specific type of contract, such as the contract the bank of england is under to print money and guarantee its value).

If a document is digitally signed then by definition it can't be a contract.

The Bank of England doesn't guarantee the value of money as inflation proves, it's literally not worth the paper it's printed on. A bank note is nothing more than a promissory note, I promise to bay the bearer on demand the sum of......, it's an IOU that you can't get paid on. Bank notes haven't been (officially) backed by anything since the day that particular currency was floated on the stockmarket as a commodity, go into your local bank with a tenner and demand to be paid your ten pounds in weight of sterling silver and see what kind of look you get.

Promissory notes are legal tender by the way, you can make your own and have loads of fun.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

I got some plant pics but no pron yet, early December I recon.

The oldest 'Smelly Cherry x Las's Lemon Haze' before I take a few more clones.




It's gone really tight down the bottom because I gave it 24/0 light for the first 2 weeks from seed so it didn't stretch. I regret it now, when it flowers it'll be a twat to keep in check.




The baby's.




I'm gonna clone those when they get big enough and then flower all 3 together so I end up with some kind of Christmas.

 

[MajorCoco]

If a document is digitally signed then by definition it can't be a contract.

The Bank of England doesn't guarantee the value of money as inflation proves, it's literally not worth the paper it's printed on. A bank note is nothing more than a promissory note, I promise to bay the bearer on demand the sum of......, it's an IOU that you can't get paid on. Bank notes haven't been (officially) backed by anything since the day that particular currency was floated on the stockmarket as a commodity, go into your local bank with a tenner and demand to be paid your ten pounds in weight of sterling silver and see what kind of look you get.

Promissory notes are legal tender by the way, you can make your own and have loads of fun.

Well, feel free to think what you like, but if you were taken to court and used the "it isn't a contract" defence I think you would lose, so I hope it doesn't get that far for anyone!

Cash is simply a promissory note which is backed by the bank of england, guaranteeing to pay the value stated on the note. I never meant to suggest that cash is inflation-protected. The "value" as in the sterling value is guaranteed...what you can get in exchange for that amount is clearly not.
Also, I'm well aware of the history of the gold-standard and the impact of Bretton Woods agreement on it...sad but true!

Anyway...I thought someone was supposed to be putting up some porn? This is beginning to feel like I'm still at work!

Edit: Ah...was expecting tits, not greenery...nice anyway!

 

[E M]

How about October promo porn lol https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/566904-october-promo-seaofseeds.html

 

[The Yorkshireman]

Well, feel free to think what you like, but if you were taken to court and used the "it isn't a contract" defence I think you would lose

OK I'll put it another way, you don't pay a contract you pay a bill so we can work from there. You ask the bank/debt collectors/finance company/whoever to provide you with a 'bill of exchange' and you will pay the debt in question.

A 'Bill of Exchange' is legally defined as........
"an unconditional order in writing addressed by one person to another, signed by the person giving it, requiring the person to whom it is addressed to pay on demand or at a fixed or determinable future time a certain sum in money to or to the order of a specified person, or to the bearer."

"A bill of exchange must be in writing, signed and dated. It is also called a draft."
http://www.easylawyers.co.uk/bills-of-exchange.php

From one person to another, in writing.

Therefore when Barclay's send you a statement and say you owe them £10.000 on your credit card you have a lawful and legal right to demand a bill, because Barclay's can't give you a bill as they are not a person you tell them if they can't provide you with a bill then you take that to mean the debt never existed in the first place.

Which is exactly what the letter I posted does for you.

 

[jimmygreenfingers]

Few piccys. Last's crops bud nicely dried, PE with about 2 n a bit weeks before the chop and PE at day 1 of 12/12 next to them. Wont be running the PE anymore, got me a clone only from the fairy so im well happy to ave a rock solid strain to run. BTW the coco pic is some new shit i found and its fucking sweet, quality as good as the pre washed/bagged stuff..well almost lol but for a tenner its really good.

 

[tip top toker]

Home at last. 14 hour shift and i think i deserve a bottle of wine

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

How'd you get on with the edible's jimmy? Ain't seen ya post since.

Get yer swally on ttt.

 

[tip top toker]

Gin and tonic to start with, well of sorts, didn't have any tonic so i just used tap water and elderflower cordial lol. Not much of a fan of red whine but i got what i got. Keep forgetting that when i get home from work all shops are closed lol, so the wine cellar it is. Kinda polished off every bottle of white that was in there. Tum tee tum. Got a text from my dad asking if i knew anything about the distinct lack of ale at our cottage down in exmore, um, lalalalalalalalalalalala can't hear you!

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

G to the T man. Nothing better, well ish.

I've had many a concoction but ne elderflower, other than piss weak hippie wine.

Red wine is the devil. pure hangover juice. I am allergic tho tbf

ps. Exmore cottage, pooosh as fook.

 

[tip top toker]

G and T with elderflower endt half bad really. Kuroi has a bit of a habbit of putting elderflower cordial into everything, even into a nice bottle of white wine doh. Also makes you forget you're drinking alcohol, had a bottle of gin and thoght i'd only had a couple of drinks, next thing i knew the bottle was empty and it was 3pm Red wine does indeed suck but hey, not starting till 6pm tomorrow so i think i cna justify it

And yeah, posh as fook, but hey, means i have a cottage i can go and stay at for days on end whenever i feel like it, can't complain Long weekend in the middle of nowhere with kuroi for nothing more than half a tank of petrol beats the hell out of £80 a night at a hotel Crazy to think though, that my old flat in bristol cost them exactly the same as the cottage. Know which one i'd chose!

 

[unlucky]

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Few piccys. Last's crops bud nicely dried, PE with about 2 n a bit weeks before the chop and PE at day 1 of 12/12 next to them. Wont be running the PE anymore, got me a clone only from the fairy so im well happy to ave a rock solid strain to run. BTW the coco pic is some new shit i found and its fucking sweet, quality as good as the pre washed/bagged stuff..well almost lol but for a tenner its really good.

​love the porn pics mr greenfingers

 

[brewing up]

Bloody Criminals!!!

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

G and T with elderflower endt half bad really. Kuroi has a bit of a habbit of putting elderflower cordial into everything, even into a nice bottle of white wine doh. Also makes you forget you're drinking alcohol, had a bottle of gin and thoght i'd only had a couple of drinks, next thing i knew the bottle was empty and it was 3pm Red wine does indeed suck but hey, not starting till 6pm tomorrow so i think i cna justify it

And yeah, posh as fook, but hey, means i have a cottage i can go and stay at for days on end whenever i feel like it, can't complain Long weekend in the middle of nowhere with kuroi for nothing more than half a tank of petrol beats the hell out of £80 a night at a hotel Crazy to think though, that my old flat in bristol cost them exactly the same as the cottage. Know which one i'd chose!

was only on the wind up man, a family cottage somewhere remote sounds a real treat man.

 

[supersillybilly]

Good morning guys......I killed my car last night. I know fuck all bout them so I'm off to get ripped off.lol

I've going to a dinner party tonight at my mate's house which always ends up with chaos. Last time his wife's friend (screwball) accused me of eyeing her up in front of everyone. She got ejected coz apparently she has previous when pished. Thing was I probably was.lol