40 year old seeds

[writtin]

There is an area in my house that only gets morning sun between 7AM and 10AM. There is also an area that gets probably 2 hours of afternoon sun before it goes behind the trees. Would one of those areas work for a transition stage?

 

[growone]

cannabineer ... Growone, when I think hash plant, I'm put in mind of Afghani and Iranian indica landraces. cn rightfully so, but those arrived over here a bit later, at least in any quantity
back in the 70's you would see Moroccan hash to some extent, Lebanese was around to a greater extent
of course, not much hash has seeds with it, so doesn't really nail it down

 

[cannabineer]

cannabineer ... Growone, when I think hash plant, I'm put in mind of Afghani and Iranian indica landraces. cn rightfully so, but those arrived over here a bit later, at least in any quantity
back in the 70's you would see Moroccan hash to some extent, Lebanese was around to a greater extent
of course, not much hash has seeds with it, so doesn't really nail it down

I burst out laughing on reading that. Thanks! cn

 

[cannabineer]

There is an area in my house that only gets morning sun between 7AM and 10AM. There is also an area that gets probably 2 hours of afternoon sun before it goes behind the trees. Would one of those areas work for a transition stage?

I don't know, but my instinct is "not". I'd do the transition outdoors and rig a removable shade. cn

 

[writtin]

People have maintained mothers in veg for years. It's the lighting. That said, plants have a minimum age before they can be kicked into flower. The first months outdoors ... seedlings will veg, but a mature plant could be tricked into flowering. Sorry, but my experience is indoors ... so I don't know how clones fare in the spring. They're physiologically mature, even if small. cn

Your indoor experience is exactly what I need right now So if I were to say - veg a plant for 3 months indoors - keep it topped and make sure it has the growth I would like, then put it outdoors when the light is still 18/6(after the transition period) it would still veg until the days got to 12/12 - correct? How would I go about doing the transition without sparking the plant into bud mode? keep it under the light for 17 hours and 1 in sun, then next day 16 light 2 sun, then 15 light 3 sun etc...? would it take about a month for the transition or could i do 2-3 hours at a time? Like 2 hours at first - then 4 - then 6 or something of that nature? Even possibly 1 in the morning 2 in evening, then 2 in morning 3 in evening? until it is all 18/6 outdoor light?

 

[writtin]

I don't know, but my instinct is "not". I'd do the transition outdoors and rig a removable shade. cn

So do a light dep in a sense?

 

[writtin]

cannabineer ... Growone, when I think hash plant, I'm put in mind of Afghani and Iranian indica landraces. cn rightfully so, but those arrived over here a bit later, at least in any quantity
back in the 70's you would see Moroccan hash to some extent, Lebanese was around to a greater extent
of course, not much hash has seeds with it, so doesn't really nail it down

First- my hash has never had seeds in it.
Second- it was 40 years ago forgive me if I am wrong but the package they are in(written 40 years ago) says Original Hash Plant. Which as you all know could very well mean the ORIGINS of hash plant. Whatever "Hash plant" strain you are speaking of could be it.
PS- if you ever get hash with seeds in it again you might want to contact who you got it from and tell them they are doing it wrong...

 

[cannabineer]

Your indoor experience is exactly what I need right now So if I were to say - veg a plant for 3 months indoors - keep it topped and make sure it has the growth I would like, then put it outdoors when the light is still 18/6(after the transition period) it would still veg until the days got to 12/12 - correct? How would I go about doing the transition without sparking the plant into bud mode? keep it under the light for 17 hours and 1 in sun, then next day 16 light 2 sun, then 15 light 3 sun etc...? would it take about a month for the transition or could i do 2-3 hours at a time? Like 2 hours at first - then 4 - then 6 or something of that nature? Even possibly 1 in the morning 2 in evening, then 2 in morning 3 in evening? until it is all 18/6 outdoor light?

If you're up to that effort, that should work well.
But I was thinking something much less labor-intensive: plant outdoors, rig a shade (coarse cloth works well), the progressively remove the shade.

So do a light dep in a sense?

Not really. Outdoor shade will be pretty bright compared to indoor lighting, unless that baby was scootched up close to a 1000 MH.
Imo one of the best ways to prevent a premature flowering would be to keep a light on the plant outdoors. The trouble with that, of course, is stealth. But yeah ... if the outdoor light is 15, 16 hours long, the chance of premature flower is small. cn

 

[writtin]

I pulled off a winter crop last year using lights outside on plants close to the house did a pull, and kept the light on longer to put it back into veg and just pulled the whole plant today with buds 5x bigger than the first time. - would I be going about this the same way?

 

[growone]

First- my hash has never had seeds in it. Second- it was 40 years ago forgive me if I am wrong but the package they are in(written 40 years ago) says Original Hash Plant. PS- if you ever get hash with seeds in it again you might want to contact who you got it from and tell them they are doing it wrong...

the seeds in hash was a joke mostly, cn picked up on it
if they're in a package, i think it's unlikely there from the 70's, i didn't think there were any seed banks operating then
not 100% sure since europe's law on cannabis seeds has always been more lenient than the usa

 

[cannabineer]

I pulled off a winter crop last year using lights outside on plants close to the house did a pull, and kept the light on longer to put it back into veg and just pulled the whole plant today with buds 5x bigger than the first time. - would I be going about this the same way?

Just so. cn ...

 

[writtin]

First- my hash has never had seeds in it. Second- it was 40 years ago forgive me if I am wrong but the package they are in(written 40 years ago) says Original Hash Plant. PS- if you ever get hash with seeds in it again you might want to contact who you got it from and tell them they are doing it wrong...

the seeds in hash was a joke mostly, cn picked up on it
if they're in a package, i think it's unlikely there from the 70's, i didn't think there were any seed banks operating then
not 100% sure since europe's law on cannabis seeds has always been more lenient than the usa

I was obviously making a joke too - "tell them they are doing it wrong"
They are in a plastic bag with a piece of paper with "Original Hash Plant" written in sharpie under a piece of yellowed tape. I have never ordered from a seed bank and if you read my previous posts you would know that Growone. Even the seeds I got from a Club were in a colored dealer bag - these are in an old fold over sandwitch bag taped closed and shoved in a box. I know they are not from a seedbank and I would have said they were if I meant they were. I also said they are from a band member. Meaning they were personally handed to me, in said bag, from said band member. Thank you very much growone but if you can't read you should not reply.

 

[writtin]

Just so. cn ...

I used one of those heat lamps with a clamp to hold it in place, the ones with the metal lamp covers. Would the same light work for the plants in this situation? That was the light of choice during the winter because it kept the plants from freezing over too bad.

 

[cannabineer]

Was it a band of which I might have heard? cn

 

[writtin]

They are heat lamps used for reptiles - I forgot to add that fact. If you go into a pet store that sells snakes/lizards and look at the heat lamp with a metal cone shaped lampshade type thing, they normally sit on top of the screen to keep the cold blooded reptiles warm in the cold weather. just takes a lightbulb and plugs in the wall nothing too fancy maybe $40 at the most

 

[growone]

didn't mean to get on your wrong side, just was curious about what you had
when i hear package of seeds, i just think more recent since that's how we get them today
so i misinterpreted your post, apology made

 

[cannabineer]

I think you must provide some blue light ... that's what trips a plant's "it's daytime" sensor. I think.
So I'd go with the fixture, but an "actinic" bulb ... cn

 

[writtin]

It's not misinterpretation, it's lack of attention paid to the post. I specifically stated that I got them from a member of the band "The Grateful Dead". I never mentioned a seed bank. Thank you for your apology but try to fully read the post in the future.

 

[writtin]

I think you must provide some blue light ... that's what trips a plant's "it's daytime" sensor. I think.
So I'd go with the fixture, but an "actinic" bulb ... cn

In reality I was not the one who got the fixture - it was my partner who does indoor grows at times. I do not know what type of bulb it is but that might very well be what is in it. I just know where the fixture itself came from, does an actinic bulb have a special look to it?

 

[cannabineer]

In reality I was not the one who got the fixture - it was my partner who does indoor grows at times. I do not know what type of bulb it is but that might very well be what is in it. I just know where the fixture itself came from, does an actinic bulb have a special look to it?

The light is bluish. I have a T5 fixture that i fitted with aquarium bulbs as per the "LED without LEDs" thread ... a way to use reef specialist bulbs in a T5 fixture to build a PAR-spectrum light source. The actinic bulbs have that bluish discharge-headlight look. cn