Enter Detroit at your own risk police say
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Sorry if I misinterpreted your words - I do actually see a different future for Chicago though. Chicago has a diverse economy with large finance and tech sectors, Detroit was almost entirely dependent on auto manufacturing. The tech and finance sectors aren't likely to just evaporate like heavy industry did in Detroit.
TheMan13
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Not so true, both areas were/are manufacturing based. Detroit still headquarters Compuware, for now, and Comerica just recently left for Texas. I believe these cities are much more similar than many outsiders assume. Furthermore, the political BS fed to these cities is as identical as the outcomes will be 
Rare D MI
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you've never met me, and I'm not black. Nice try though.purklize said:
As for weed being more legal in AA than Detroit... You get caught smoking outside on the street in Ann arbor you get a $25 ticket. In Detroit the cops laugh and tell you to put it out and go about their business. I smoke herb openly on the streets of Detroit frequently. Which seems more legal, getting a citation with your name on it or being told to put it out?
If you look here at "most common industries," manufacturing doesn't appear on the list:Not so true, both areas were/are manufacturing based. Detroit still headquarters Compuware, for now, and Comerica just recently left for Texas. I believe these cities are much more similar than many outsiders assume. Furthermore, the political BS fed to these cities is as identical as the outcomes will be
http://www.city-data.com/city/Chicago-Illinois.html
Though in Detroit, despite the massive decline, transportation equipment manufacturing still accounts for 15% of economic activity:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Detroit-Michigan.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_in_the_Chicago_metropolitan_area
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Companies_based_in_Detroit,_Michigan
Chicago has a far more diverse economy with a lot more major companies headquartered there, if this data is accurate.
I had thought you said before on the forums that you were black. Either way, that just means that I have now not met a single black guy who didn't admit that anti-white racism exists and is a problem.
You obviously haven't been to Ann Arbor. The cops NEVER enforce the $25 dollar law. They don't tell you to put it out, or stop to bother you. They don't even seem to care about gardens, card or not. All the time I'll be walking down the street in the downtown area and smell a massive reek of fresh herb wafting down the street. Every apartment building I've lived in, the odor has made it obvious that another tenant was pulling in crops. My last landlord found out about my plants and didn't even care whether I had a card (I did, of course, I don't have balls like that), and my current lease allows MMJ (not explicitly, but it only prohibits drug activity after a formal police report has been filed alleging that a crime has been committed). Ann Arbor is more liberal on MJ than anywhere east of California and in many ways, more so than California. People smoke half foot glass pieces in broad daylight in the parks and no one bats an eye. You just can't do it on campus (campus cops enforce state law) and you'd be dumb to do it on a street where the sheriffs roll through to drop off prisoners at the courthouse (Packard and Huron, mostly).
Our economy in Detroit was also much more diverse prior to losing half of it's population in the 90's. Chicago's population is currently seeing the same mass exodus three decades later. This is not just a coincidence
I've never heard before that manufacturing wasn't the bedrock of economic activity in Detroit... perhaps you're mistaking the peripheral economic activity (resulting from people spending the dollars they made working manufacturing jobs) for primary economic activity?
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Detroit.aspx (from the year 2000)
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TheMan13
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I guess I am referring to the historical perspective that the bedrock of manufacturing within the Great Lakes (WWI & WWII eras) is what built the world renowned cities of Detroit & Chicago, in both infrastructure and populations. It was a coming together of industry and government that made this possible. It is also the separation of such that proved to be so harmful to the people whom cannot just pickup and move on like the politicians and businessmen have Same story, different town ...
Same story, different town ...
Rare D MI
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I have spent a lot of time in Ann arbor in the last 12 years. How old are you purklize? I'm wondering if you remember the city at all pre 2006 prop C, which a friend of mine helped write and pushed for it's passing as the VP of university of Michigan SSDP.
I'm in Ann arbor literally at least once a week. A lot of people know me there. You've probably seen me sometime.
I'm in Ann arbor literally at least once a week. A lot of people know me there. You've probably seen me sometime.
Yep, you are right for sure on this, capital is completely liquid and can move instantly across the globe, while workers cannot do this, hence the end result tends to be fantastic for capital (and therefore investors) while simultaneously catastrophic for workers. It's a sad story in the worst way.I guess I am referring to the historical perspective that the bedrock of manufacturing within the Great Lakes (WWI & WWII eras) is what built the world renowned cities of Detroit & Chicago, in both infrastructure and populations. It was a coming together of industry and government that made this possible. It is also the separation of such that proved to be so harmful to the people whom cannot just pickup and move on like the politicians and businessmen have
Rare D MI - I wasn't in Ann Arbor back then, I moved here 4-5 years ago after college. I can only reflect on the situation since I arrived. I haven't seen anyone get ticketed, or heard of cops showing up for mj-related calls. I reeked up a five story apartment building with a tremendous stench for weeks without realizing it (my sense of smell sucks) and the cops never showed up.
http://electionresults.ewashtenaw.org/nov2004/Canvass-Cst3145.html
I assume this is the initiative you are referring to? I ask because this one is from 2004... I haven't heard of anything from 2006.
I know what you mean. 2004 sounds like yesterday to me. Crazy that the college freshmen here at UM barely remember 9/11.... they were 7 years old... 1st graders. 
Do you happen to know what happens when the cops here in Ann Arbor actually do visit a garden? I've never heard of it happening so I have no idea how they would handle it, though it seems they wouldn't do much of anything. The big question is basically whether they respect Prop C... or whether they disregard it and enforce the stricter state measure.
Do you happen to know what happens when the cops here in Ann Arbor actually do visit a garden? I've never heard of it happening so I have no idea how they would handle it, though it seems they wouldn't do much of anything. The big question is basically whether they respect Prop C... or whether they disregard it and enforce the stricter state measure.
Rare D MI
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A close friend has talked to cops about this Ann Arbor as a city is more likely to follow prop C, and their basic attitude is look the other way. They don't plan to visit gardens, they don't think about the dispensaries. This is from a cops mouth off the record of course.
My point stands though. If you are brazen enough to smoke on the corner of a street downtown off campus in Ann arbor, you will get a fine. On campus you will Get arrested. In Detroit, doing that anywhere nothing will happen to you. So which city is it more legal in?
My point stands though. If you are brazen enough to smoke on the corner of a street downtown off campus in Ann arbor, you will get a fine. On campus you will Get arrested. In Detroit, doing that anywhere nothing will happen to you. So which city is it more legal in?
I've never seen anyone get fined here... I see people smoke right downtown in front of businesses and everything on Liberty St. and they never get harassed... and of course there's Hash Bash... the cops leave that alone too.
Good to know they respect Prop. C though, thanks for that info.
Good to know they respect Prop. C though, thanks for that info.
Rare D MI
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That statistic says alleged in it. I would like to know how many were prosecuted as such for possessions of small amount and also a breakdown of racial make up, i.e. The NYC stop and frisk practice making waves lately.. How many of those 1,500 arrests in '09 started with "hey what are you doing over there son?" and end with the cops finding a small bag of weed on some 17 year old kid, so they lock him up.
I would put $ on that being the case in 60%+ of those alleged cases.
I would put $ on that being the case in 60%+ of those alleged cases.
It's a good question and could go either way. Historically as I'm sure you're aware, blacks are unfairly targeted by the cops for searches... but, at the same time, whites in black neighborhoods often get stopped by the cops as the cops assume they're looking for drugs...
stumpjumper
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Problem solved. Detroit isn't as bad as they say it is because weed is more unenforced there. We can smoke on the street without fear of the police. Fuck we can even rape women there without fear of the police and shoot people too!! Let's all move there because it sounds fun.
Just don't get caught in a house fire without your fucking clothes on...
THis is just plain ass fucking pathetic.
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19788029/detroit-paramedic-im-being-punished-for-giving-cold-man-a-blanket#.UHXz0cjEojV.facebook
Just don't get caught in a house fire without your fucking clothes on...
THis is just plain ass fucking pathetic.
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19788029/detroit-paramedic-im-being-punished-for-giving-cold-man-a-blanket#.UHXz0cjEojV.facebook