That's it. It's no longer "flushing" for harvest it's now "starving" for harvest.
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x420xColtonx420x
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It's sad that we're mean to the plant, but we are ever so nice to the bud for smoking it right. Stop starving you plants for good pot! Stop smoking your plants for medicinal relief! It's mean
. HAHAHAx420xColtonx420x
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Flushing helps get rid of the remnants of fertalizer which affects the taste and smell, starving it removes more of the chlorophyll taste. Learned that here over the course of 2 weeks not even searching for anything purposely. So... Yeah there are advantages, but if you're a tree hugger and you cry about hurting plants, you shouldn't be smoking them, or chopping them down. So you're pretty much just a hypocrite for caring about one part but not another part of the same exact process. Get over it.
Scrotie Mcboogerballs
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This argument is going to be forever re-accuring, but from what I have put together starving your plants in the last couple of weeks of flower does nothing but rob your plants of important nutes it needs. Flushing is going to pretty much do the same by stripping the soil of what it needs. A good drying and cure helps the plant burn off chlorophyl, in turn burning off most 'chemicals' caused by fertilizers. You want fat, clean Nugs? learn to dry and cure.
cannabineer
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In the case of ammoniac and urea nitrogen, the plant will absorb those even if it no longer has a use for them. Stored ammoniac/urea nitrogen is perhaps the leading cause of black ash and "crackly" burn. Jmo. cn
x420xColtonx420x
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Hahaha, the proof is that it is accepted, and proven, by multiple growers, who have tested it. If it made the plant worse, we wouldn't be doing it. We have reached these ends through the collective thought which had its foundation laid out through multiple generations of growing. If it didn't work, if it wasn't effective, we wouldn't do it. You can do it however you want, but I enjoy the most potent, clean burning, clean tasting, tri-headed trichromes, with thick amazing smoke, which gives off such an amazing feeling that any user of any other drug would instantly switch to using this marijuana to aid in their recovery instead of mass produced pills made with chemicals. If you want to take that away from me and any other patient, then you are on the wrong side, and we should lead a bitch hunt against you. (hahaha bitch hunt instead of witch hunt) So you either use it, get better buds, test it and get worse buds on one plant and better buds on the other, or not use it at all, and live like a caveman using plain old dirt and water. You're choice woman
x420xColtonx420x
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^ More troll. You have been exposed to the justin bibur generation haven't you.
I am far from an expert on it, but from reading and experimenting my feelings are something along these lines...
If you keep your plant healthy, especially the leaves, nice and green and reaching for the light, flushing is fine, if not good.
10 days before you are ready to harvest, flush your soil. The next 10 days you will have more than enough nutrients and food stored in your beautiful green leaves to sufficiently feed the buds in their final days. You are going to be trimming them off anyway, might as well use them up, IMO. It most certainly doesnt starve your plant.
smokinrav
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And how do you know that? It's the majority opinion of the posts you've read while you've been dedicated to growing pot? That is NOT proof that flushing is anything more than a growers myth.
I know feeding my plants to harvest keeps them green and healthy. An entire lexicon has grown up for more than a decade around keeping your plants as unhealthy as possible as you near harvest by flushing, with absolutely no proof offered ever as to why.
I know feeding my plants to harvest keeps them green and healthy. An entire lexicon has grown up for more than a decade around keeping your plants as unhealthy as possible as you near harvest by flushing, with absolutely no proof offered ever as to why.
How do I know what? That my plant isnt starving? Its pretty easy to see actually... How do you know your plant isnt starving? I would guess the same way.
Capt. Stickyfingers
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https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/409622-truth-about-flushing.html#post5323751
Summary:
Preharvest flushing puts the plant(s) under serious stress. The plant has to deal with nutrient deficiencies in a very important part of its cycle. Strong changes in the amount of dissolved substances in the root-zone stress the roots, possibly to the point of direct physical damage to them. Many immobile elements are no more available for further metabolic processes. We are loosing the fan leaves and damage will show likely on new growth as well.
The grower should react in an educated way to the plant needs. Excessive, deficient or unbalanced levels should be avoided regardless the nutrient source. Nutrient levels should be gradually adjusted to the lesser needs in later flowering. Stress factors should be limited as far as possible. If that is accomplished throughout the entire life cycle, there shouldn’t be any excessive nutrient compounds in the plants tissue. It doesn’t sound likely to the author that you can correct growing errors (significant lower mobile nutrient compound levels) with preharvest flushing.
Drying and curing (when done right) on the other hand have proved (In many studies) to have a major impact on taste and flavour, by breaking down chlorophylls and converting starches into sugars. Most attributes blamed on unflushed buds may be the result of unbalanced nutrition and/or overfert and unproper drying/curing."
Capt. Stickyfingers
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I haven't flushed in ages. My bud is primo, there is no chemical taste, funny burn, none of that. Dark ash is from smoking bud that's too wet. Sparking could be from either spraying plants with shit, or dead bugs, or both.
Capt. Stickyfingers
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^^^^^
Correct.
Correct.
smokinrav
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From my experience, seems like the plant hits a peak nutrient usage around 6 weeks in...
So by the 6th week of flowering I am feeding it the strongest. After that 6th week peak feeding I start backing off, lowering my mix until near the end when I no longer need it. At that point I give it a good watering, I said 10 days earlier, but really for me its 1 week prior to my estimated cut date. I always see a spurt of new growth after the 'flush' so if it stresses it, I am not sure how. By the time the water dries out in the soil (which is always 4-5 days) its almost cutting time, so I dont water it, throw it into darkness and cut it 48 hours later.
My leaves are still green when they come out of the 48 hours of darkness. Sometimes they are still standing up straight, sometimes they are drooped over.
I have done both ways with the same strains several times no flushes, no dark period. To be completely honest I cant tell much of a difference either way. Doesnt seem to hurt it at all, not sure if it helps it at all. Scientifically they say that thc is highest during dark cycle, so I will continue my 48 hours of darkness either way. Since the flush doesnt hurt it at all, I will continue to flush it. It certainly hasnt hurt it at all.
So by the 6th week of flowering I am feeding it the strongest. After that 6th week peak feeding I start backing off, lowering my mix until near the end when I no longer need it. At that point I give it a good watering, I said 10 days earlier, but really for me its 1 week prior to my estimated cut date. I always see a spurt of new growth after the 'flush' so if it stresses it, I am not sure how. By the time the water dries out in the soil (which is always 4-5 days) its almost cutting time, so I dont water it, throw it into darkness and cut it 48 hours later.
My leaves are still green when they come out of the 48 hours of darkness. Sometimes they are still standing up straight, sometimes they are drooped over.
I have done both ways with the same strains several times no flushes, no dark period. To be completely honest I cant tell much of a difference either way. Doesnt seem to hurt it at all, not sure if it helps it at all. Scientifically they say that thc is highest during dark cycle, so I will continue my 48 hours of darkness either way. Since the flush doesnt hurt it at all, I will continue to flush it. It certainly hasnt hurt it at all.