CBD and schizophrenia?

[Dragon'sHoardSeeds]

Yeah. I did the same thing in 2008. The mental health system here sucks though. check out the review I found on my doctors office.

so far ive been to three appointments and received the treatment i expect from a goverment employee. so far she has not read my family medical history. i have received smart alec answers, i cant help you, and playing stupid. i had to drive 200 miles to see a compentent counsler. i was there for a total of 20 minutes before i had answers. dont waste your time or money with this lady.

I went to the hospital for the first time in 2000. I was having really bad insomnia, depression, and anxiety. I ended up swallowing a bottle
of xanax. When I was setting in my room all zoned out and sleep deprived a doctor came in to the room and asked me if I had tried any drugs.
I proceeded to tell him the different drugs I had tried but I wasn't on any drugs at the time accept pot. It was a horrible experience. I don't have
any money and haven't for a long time. When I applied for benefits in 2008 the S.R.S. made me fill like I was just someone who didn't want to
work. They don't understand I'm not just someone who thinks he can get benefits because he was labeled bipolar. I'm someone who has had
real problems when I've tried to work. I have a case open now and my doctors no longer think that I'm a drug addict and I have a lawyer who
actually wants to help me. So hopefully it will go better this time. But man I sure went through a lot of bullshit over it. There's actually a lot of
people with less problems than me who received it with no problem. So you can understand why I was so angry about being turned down. I
mean I was just trying to be honest because that's the way I am. Anyone else would of just lied and received it. Besides there is real drug addicts
out there who don't have the problems that I have.

 

[ford442]

yep.. i hope that you can do it soon.. reapply or appeal their decision when you have plenty of evidence..
i would be in a bad place without it - in my earlier years i had a family business that i was part of, but now the elders are retiring and i have almost no work again..

 

[Dragon'sHoardSeeds]

Yeah I think it was because I didn't have the doctor on my side. But he never really talked to me or asked me questions. So how would he no what my issues where.
He just set there with this stupid false sympathetic look on his face. Convinced that I was a meth addict with no proof. Doctors here are close minded and arrogant.
I tried to tell the doctors that I thought I had been having partial seizures on and off since I was a little kid. But they just blew me off and didn't even consider it. I
don't think they even new what I was talking about. Just because I thought of it first doesn't mean it isn't a possibility!

 

[ford442]

here is the email i received in response to my question about creating a CBD only pill like Idrasil:

"Hi Noah,

We are not currently planning to make a pill with just CBD. I can tell you though that because Idrasil has a balance of CBD, CBN, and THC at a 1:1:1 ratio the psychoactive effect of the THC is balanced and will be the same amount consistently in each pill. This ratio eliminates the psychotropic high that can be undesirable and leaves the patient only relaxed. Please let me know if I can answer any further questions.
Thank You,
Joanie"


So, i will investigate further if this is the closest i can get to pure CBD in the coming years..

 

[Dragon'sHoardSeeds]

I was watching Weed Wars on DSC. It was based in california at the Harborside Health Center and they had a tincture that was CBD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY7uWfqoPzk

It isn't all CBD though

https://www.stickyguide.com/dispensaries/harborside-health-center-oakland/products/cbd-oil--2

But you shouldn't get high off of it. If that is what your looking for.

 

[ford442]

pretty much.. but, i am many miles from large scale dispensaries - my considerate county has banned them completely.. i could drive 50 miles to one small shop, but i have no car..

 

[george xxx]

That it is man. That it is.


"This isn't right and we're not going to take it anymore". So why aren't we?

Most likely because politicians are all wealthy investors who are only in it for the money. Politicians do not listen to what people want unless there is a financial issue or personal agenda attached.

 

[ford442]

i think that there is still a large agenda tied to hemp prohibition - it has to do with the price of oil - as they grow more assured that hemp won't come back they start to raise the price of barrels.. they have not forgotten their nemesis 'alternative energy'..

doing a little reading.. ok.. it would take about 300,000,000 acres of hemp to completely power the US need for gasoline.. we have 600,000,000 acres sitting idle right now... hmmmm....

 

[Unfamiliar]

Hey ford I know this post is months old but have you heard of CBD CREW? you should look them up because they produce seeds with a 1:1 THC:CBD ratio, you can find their seeds at attitude seed-bank. Another company i would try is centennial seeds they have one plant called otto #1, which has phenotypes of 1:2 THC:CBD and one phenotype was allegedly 1:27 THC:CBD, it is also carried at attitude. I desperatley want to have my brother try these strains made into oil or bho, anything to get him off those deadly pills they are prescribing him for schizophrenia. PEACE and GOOD LUCK DUDE

 

[ford442]

hey - thanks for the info!
i will take it into consideration next spring.
right now i am trying a CBD extract tincture from Dixie X - i chose the 100mg/1oz bottle for $40 and i think that it is helping me. i really wish that i could transition to this instead of Zyprexa. it feels a bit calming and like it does something. from what i understand - CBD helps to actually repair the neuron sites unlike Zyprexa which tranquilizes and masks the symptoms.

 

[dragonskin]

hey - thanks for the info!
i will take it into consideration next spring.
right now i am trying a CBD extract tincture from Dixie X - i chose the 100mg/1oz bottle for $40 and i think that it is helping me. i really wish that i could transition to this instead of Zyprexa. it feels a bit calming and like it does something. from what i understand - CBD helps to actually repair the neuron sites unlike Zyprexa which tranquilizes and masks the symptoms.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! Thank you so much for bringing up the Dixie Drops in your lastest post. You just saved me a lot of money from buying the Volcano Vaporizer. I would much rather take this legal healthy alternative. I am for sure going to buy it but can you please answer these questions? Thank you in advance!
1. How many drops do I have to put under my tounge? How many do you use daily?
2. Why didn't you buy the 2oz 500mg CBD? More CBD volume wise.
3. What difference do you notice between this and vaping or smoking or eating edibles or etc?
4. Can you feel any anti-anxiety and pain relief?
5. I am planning to take this just about daily in the morning. Is that a good idea? Will it last all day?
6. Can I still function normally while on it?
7. Wouldn't this be much cheaper than any physical solid weed (Sativa and Indica)? I don't understand why people are complaining, because if 2-5 drops is effective enough to last all day, this product could last a long time. Plus it's legal...for now.
Please answer because I cannot wait to get my hands on this!

 

[ford442]

hi dragon - to begin i am looking for relief from subtle mental issues and not physical pain.

1. i use a small amount - like 1-3 drops of thick oil
2. i don't have the income to buy $160 vial frequently, so i am trying the $40 vial first
3. this is VERY subtle compared to THC - CBD is currently considered to have no psychoactive properties - however, i feel a sense of calmness which is my goal.
4. i have felt my anxiety or frustration dulled after taking this - i took some for pain last night and felt ok - i have a large gash on my left hand
5. all day - probably yes - i like to take a little in the morning and more to wind down in the evening
6. yes - see #3
7. this will remain legal since it is from hemp and not marijuana - marijuana can relieve a lot more conditions with its mix of CBD/THC and other cannabinoids. i liken it (weed) somewhat to taking cough medicine - you will still cough, you just will suffer less

let me know if i can clarify more - sorry - my left hand is all bandaged up.. best of luck using the drops!

 

[ford442]

also on #3 - i sometimes have a worsening of symptoms with edibles - never with these drops

also on #1 - the oil is very sweet of cinnamon and an extreme pleasure to injest

 

[dragonskin]

hi dragon - to begin i am looking for relief from subtle mental issues and not physical pain.

1. i use a small amount - like 1-3 drops of thick oil
2. i don't have the income to buy $160 vial frequently, so i am trying the $40 vial first
3. this is VERY subtle compared to THC - CBD is currently considered to have no psychoactive properties - however, i feel a sense of calmness which is my goal.
4. i have felt my anxiety or frustration dulled after taking this - i took some for pain last night and felt ok - i have a large gash on my left hand
5. all day - probably yes - i like to take a little in the morning and more to wind down in the evening
6. yes - see #3
7. this will remain legal since it is from hemp and not marijuana - marijuana can relieve a lot more conditions with its mix of CBD/THC and other cannabinoids. i liken it (weed) somewhat to taking cough medicine - you will still cough, you just will suffer less

let me know if i can clarify more - sorry - my left hand is all bandaged up.. best of luck using the drops!

Okay thanks for the reply. I still think you would actually save a lot more money if you switched to the 2oz 500mg. You only have 100mg. Split the 2oz in half and you have 1oz 250mg. The ratio between the two over 2:1 CBD content per drop. So that should cost $80 then instead of $160. Factor in the double size and then it would be worth $160. But you also get an additional 100mg of CBD free of charge! Similar to getting a discount if you buy a large enough supply at once. So that's why you would save more money switching options. 100mg extra CBD! On top of that, you would only need to use .5 of a drop to 2 drop max to have the same effect as your current 1-3 drops daily. You save $40 with the 2oz vial.

I guess you answered all my questions lol. However, my reasons for taking it isn't far off from your own. I'm just looking for some of the health benefits. Neuroprotective, anxiolytic, prevention of cancer, antidepressant, and most importantly, activation of 5-HT1A receptors. The only worry is tolerance eventually happening via downregulation of those receptors. Interesting enough though, I saw a study today suggesting that the neuroprotection persists and tolerance doesn't occur with CBD but I cannot say the same about the antidepressant/anxiolytic effect.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAB&url=http://www.mdpi.com/1424-8247/3/7/2197/pdf&ei=HK6EUIa7K-npygHi6oG4Dg&usg=AFQjCNEYghe5VnL0Ms8l8UTMfxfgn9vTSA&sig2=aeqMWiLPqHZO6wzY-mG6_w

 

[LWD]

I am schizoaffective, and been wanting to grow high cbd strain by reggae seeds 'juanita la lagrimosa'. Stats are like 8 percent CBD and 6 percent THC. If I smoke that street presedential LOUD around here with that super duper high THC rating and low CBD my brain goes into a psychotic state. I'm like fuck that I know there are better strains that particularly combat my mental disease. I can't grow it though due to the fucked up laws in place. So I'm on an anti psychotic called latuda, I done tried almost all of them, they make you gain much weight. They say CBD has anti psychotic properties, but I'd have to vapor some juanita la lagrimosa first to see how well it works for me. Some other good CBD strains are Omrita and Harlequinn. So I'm just waiting man, for Colorado, Washington, for the initiatives and amendments to pass. The feds going to be out of jobs and there will be many more jobs open due to the hemp market and regulation of cannabis.

 

[Huel Perkins]

hi dragon - to begin i am looking for relief from subtle mental issues and not physical pain.

1. i use a small amount - like 1-3 drops of thick oil
2. i don't have the income to buy $160 vial frequently, so i am trying the $40 vial first
3. this is VERY subtle compared to THC - CBD is currently considered to have no psychoactive properties - however, i feel a sense of calmness which is my goal.
4. i have felt my anxiety or frustration dulled after taking this - i took some for pain last night and felt ok - i have a large gash on my left hand
5. all day - probably yes - i like to take a little in the morning and more to wind down in the evening
6. yes - see #3
7. this will remain legal since it is from hemp and not marijuana - marijuana can relieve a lot more conditions with its mix of CBD/THC and other cannabinoids. i liken it (weed) somewhat to taking cough medicine - you will still cough, you just will suffer less

let me know if i can clarify more - sorry - my left hand is all bandaged up.. best of luck using the drops!

This is a comment on your #7. Marijuana and hemp are the same plant, they are both cannabis. They are both cannabis but different strains. Plants that are labeled marijuana are cannabis plants that have been bred for large flower masses (buds) and high cannabinoid levels. Plants that are labeled hemp are cannabis plants that have bred for their longer fiberous stalks, small flower masses and low cannabinoid levels. In the united states the laws are the same for all strains of cannabis.

 

[Huel Perkins]

I'd also like to add that for the last couple months I've been using a strain that has a 10:1 CBD to THC ratio and it definitely has effects you can feel, AKA a high. The high not very powerful and is much different than typical THC highs that come from most strains, its very calming and relaxing, its tough to really explain. It helps me greatly with insomnia and anxiety problems.

 

[dragonskin]

I'd also like to add that for the last couple months I've been using a strain that has a 10:1 CBD to THC ratio and it definitely has effects you can feel, AKA a high. The high not very powerful and is much different than typical THC highs that come from most strains, its very calming and relaxing, its tough to really explain. It helps me greatly with insomnia and anxiety problems.

What strain are you using?

 

[Huel Perkins]

What strain are you using?

Its a rare pheno of Cannatonic. Check the link in my signature, I have a grow with it going right now.

 

[ford442]

heul - i know that both plants are cannabis, but my point is that the police make a big distinction internationally - and they didn't breed the high out of hemp - it is your usual wild sativa born to grow giant - most sativas in the wild are non-psychoactive with low THC. you are wrong about the laws in the US - you can have a hemp backpack - not indica - you can grow medical pot - not industrial hemp - you can possess hemp extract and sell it - not hash.. you can have a patch of wild hemp grow on your property without the feds paying $4,000,000 to eradicate it, send you to jail and take your home.. they are different breeds of the plant - they did not start out the same strain..

i am having a terrible time with stopping zyprexa. my symptoms are back a little, but it feels worse than stopping cigarettes by far. these articles are talking about my neurons having to grow back. mmm.. i feel very uncomfortable and confused like a just took mushrooms.. the veins in my head pound and throb.. this will last for weeks i understand.. interesting how these are $30 daily pills that make you want to come back for more... mmm... i know that i need to give it some time like 4 more weeks on the pills and then 4 weeks of further shit.. but, ouch - its like a bad trip that won't end.. fuck pharmaceuticals! 'you may gain 30 lbs per year of anti-psychotic use' yep - and you won't lose it either...