LoudBlunts
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email....
got an idea: using coco mats for cut out circles for our lids....
whatcha think?
got an idea: using coco mats for cut out circles for our lids....
whatcha think?
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email468
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I think it would work perfectly. But to be honest, i am moving away from the coco to just hydroton in netpots and the seed held in place with a bit of rapid rooter. So i think i'm just going to go with plastic/mylar lids.
email468
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oh yeah - LoudBlunts has lots of good ideas and does a lot of research!
I've been keeping up with your journal - everything is looking real good.
LoudBlunts
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yea it seems that email and fletch are the only ones who like to brainstorm with me
munchbox used to be brainstorm with me too.....but he got banned for a few days.....i dont know what happened to him. i miss him. munchbox come back man!!!!!!!
munchbox used to be brainstorm with me too.....but he got banned for a few days.....i dont know what happened to him. i miss him. munchbox come back man!!!!!!!
Alto
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would depend on how much air the thing pushes and what filter.
just be careful to remember those things kick some serious heat as well.
Enclosing it in a box could end up a heat issue rather than a small issue.
I know your smart and probably already thought through this all but I am playing the devils advocate here.
If you put the exhaust hole at the top with say a 120mm PC fan it could be enough.
Shamegame love the Stupid Larry Avatar
LoudBlunts
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what kinda ac you got? i forgot.... is it one of those window ones? portable ones?
why not just put odor control on the exhaust of the ac?
i dont think you would have to get another fan....well not a centrig. fan anyway. an axial fan should work fine.
if its that much of a problem, i would throw an ozone/uv generator (inline) at the ass of the exhaust venting outside....
email468
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OK - check this out. i have a carbon filter on the exhaust and an ozone generator sitting on top of the damn thing and the air exhausting out of the AC reeked!
It is a window unit that i shoved the front part into my grow box. I am thinking on building a box around it and then attaching a filter to a hole in the box. As Alto points out - it may get hot but it will be outside my grow area so provided the heat doesn't muck with the functioning of the AC all should be well. I have a few carbon filters but only two good fans. looks like i'll be getting another one
LoudBlunts
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get some cheap axials
how in the hell did it reek with a carbon filter and ozone generator???!?!
OH SHIT....duh.... humidity....what is the humidity looking like where the carbon filter was? you know high humidity will render it useless. the carbon will swell and wont absorb any more odor
how in the hell did it reek with a carbon filter and ozone generator???!?!
OH SHIT....duh.... humidity....what is the humidity looking like where the carbon filter was? you know high humidity will render it useless. the carbon will swell and wont absorb any more odor
LoudBlunts
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i just dont get it!
an ozone generator should have eliminated all smells.
i dont understand
an ozone generator should have eliminated all smells.
i dont understand
email468
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shoulda... but as i mentioned - i had it sitting on top of the box and wasn't using it "inline" but still i figured it would at least reduce the smell if not eliminate it altogether.
Your point about humidity is well taken - the carbon filter may have failed since the AC was probably making it more humid - but i do have a dehumidifier running.
LoudBlunts
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why not try inline? can you vent outside safely & privately?
email468
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my new plan is - build a box around the AC (window unit) and vent it with a damn fan (ugh) through a carbon filter. The box will be completely separate from the grow box.
as for the exhaust, i will put the ozone generator inline and still exhaust through a carbon filter.
I'd rather vent inside than outside in case the problem recurs. I'd rather try to fight the odor inside rather than have it vented outside - does that make sense to you?
what do you think of the plan?
LoudBlunts
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i understand your plan more now.
as far as the ozone generator....do you have it on a timer? god forbid my buddy take in too much ozone or his plants. i just dont like that ozone in the air....
that idea to exhaust the a/c box is kinda cool. i would make sure you get a strong enough fan to expel the heat. i would also put the carbon scrubber on top of the box.
offtopic, email you got info on which wattage of lights and what it covers? im tryin to help this dude, but i cant find the info fast enough....i only remember 1k covering 8x8 or something like that
as far as the ozone generator....do you have it on a timer? god forbid my buddy take in too much ozone or his plants. i just dont like that ozone in the air....
that idea to exhaust the a/c box is kinda cool. i would make sure you get a strong enough fan to expel the heat. i would also put the carbon scrubber on top of the box.
offtopic, email you got info on which wattage of lights and what it covers? im tryin to help this dude, but i cant find the info fast enough....i only remember 1k covering 8x8 or something like that
Alto
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why don't you just chill the reservoir with say an Ice Pick and loose the AC altogether. If the temps inside get too high run Co2.
Or are we talking 100F and up?
if it is staying at around 90F Co2 running plants will be fine, in fact better able to use the additional Co2. And I bet the cost of gas would be less than the electric for the AC as well.
Just my 2c
LB its 2x2 for 400 5x5 for 600
I remember from when I was shopping recently
Or are we talking 100F and up?
if it is staying at around 90F Co2 running plants will be fine, in fact better able to use the additional Co2. And I bet the cost of gas would be less than the electric for the AC as well.
Just my 2c
LB its 2x2 for 400 5x5 for 600
I remember from when I was shopping recently
LoudBlunts
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he's trying to kill 2 birds with one stone (ac)
not only does he have high res temp....but high room temps.
he's interested in co2 down the road, but not right now. If email is going to do something, he's going to do it right (i.e. decked out co2 system with monitors and controllers) i just dont think he wants to spend the money right now.
and besides co2 is the icing on the cake. no need for icing if the cake is still baking
thanks for the info alto! passing on the info now
not only does he have high res temp....but high room temps.
he's interested in co2 down the road, but not right now. If email is going to do something, he's going to do it right (i.e. decked out co2 system with monitors and controllers) i just dont think he wants to spend the money right now.
and besides co2 is the icing on the cake. no need for icing if the cake is still baking
thanks for the info alto! passing on the info now
email468
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The problem with the res temp was the ambient air temperature - not the reverse - otherwise i would invest in a chiller (and probably will do so in the future). As LB points out - i will make the CO2 investment in the future. But even CO2 injection can not use 95+ temps!
email468
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I did have the OG on a timer - but after using the test patches discovered i could leave it on without ozone build-up. It didn't even have that "swimming pool" smell - which may be a clue to part of the problem. I think it was designed to be used inline or at least inside the box - not on top. I was trying to eliminate any escaping odors but that did not work.
I was planning on putting the scrubber right on top of the box though i had no reason for it other than easy access.
It looks like i'm going to be getting two inline fans. one for venting the AC box and one to put on one of my intake vents just to make sure the air is flowing IN and not out!
