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email468

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offtopic, email you got info on which wattage of lights and what it covers? im tryin to help this dude, but i cant find the info fast enough....i only remember 1k covering 8x8 or something like that
my advice goes by the minimum of 50-70 watts per square foot. though in practice i am at about 125 watts per square foot! which goes a long way to explaining my heating problems.

I even thought about using a 400w instead of a 600w HPS.
Does anyone know from experience that it is safe to use a lower wattage bulb in a differently rated ballast? I know it is not safe to use a 600w HPS in a 400w HPS ballast but is the reverse also true (using a 400w HPS in a 600w HPS ballast also unsafe)?
 

Alto

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I take it your lights are not cooled.
My 400W is air cooled and I can hold my hand on the bottom of the glass without it being too hot.
My room temps jumped yesterday as it got up to 80 here.
inside the room stayed pretty cool and the fan was cycled off too.
I am sure you will get things right where you want em email
looking forward to when you put them to use and the next Journal:mrgreen:
 

LoudBlunts

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I did have the OG on a timer - but after using the test patches discovered i could leave it on without ozone build-up. It didn't even have that "swimming pool" smell - which may be a clue to part of the problem. I think it was designed to be used inline or at least inside the box - not on top. I was trying to eliminate any escaping odors but that did not work.

I was planning on putting the scrubber right on top of the box though i had no reason for it other than easy access.

It looks like i'm going to be getting two inline fans. one for venting the AC box and one to put on one of my intake vents just to make sure the air is flowing IN and not out!
lol, at least you've made me feel better


i thought 3 fans for 1 tent was overkill i have about 1000cfm pushing around in there! 400 for the light 400 for the main exhaust and 200 for the intake
 

LoudBlunts

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oh his light is cooled. he just has 2 bulbs one 600hps and one 400mh to combine a 1000watt dual spectrum ballast
 

email468

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I take it your lights are not cooled.
My 400W is air cooled and I can hold my hand on the bottom of the glass without it being too hot.
My room temps jumped yesterday as it got up to 80 here.
inside the room stayed pretty cool and the fan was cycled off too.
I am sure you will get things right where you want em email
looking forward to when you put them to use and the next Journal:mrgreen:
Well as LB points out - i have a 400w MH and a 600w HPS running at the same time for a 1000w total. if i did not have it air-cooled my temps would probably be over 120 F! with air-cooling they still got over a 100 F - since our bodies are 98.6 touching something 100 degrees F does not feel all that warm. In fact, when i was cooking - it was nothing to quickly touch 180 F plus w/o incident - though boiling temps (212F plus) was ouchy!

thanks for the vote of confidence - i'm hoping to get it sorted. I had some temp problems last year but nothing like this! damn thermometer :evil:
 

Alto

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Yeah lol I broka a sweat yesterday afternoon looking in on the kids.
Heh they sure seemed to love it tho.
Just hope all the precautions against root fungus hold as the res hits 70 now and again.
 

email468

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Yeah lol I broka a sweat yesterday afternoon looking in on the kids.
Heh they sure seemed to love it tho.
Just hope all the precautions against root fungus hold as the res hits 70 now and again.
i think as long as you have plenty of oxygen in the res and the res is light-tight you should be OK. If not - there is always H2O2.
 

Alto

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i think as long as you have plenty of oxygen in the res and the res is light-tight you should be OK. If not - there is always H2O2.
yeah but H2O2 will kill my nutes:cry:

lots of O2 in the bubbler tho and the kids are showing it:mrgreen:

There is some other thing I read about to flush out fungus too I can always find that info again.
I read that you fill up a plastic soda bottle about 3/4 way with H2O
freeze em and float one in the rezz.
switch em out as needed.
If during the heat of summer it gets too hot I will just do that 2x a day to keep it under control.
by then I will be 12/12 and so lights off daytime on at night should be about balanced in there.
 

LoudBlunts

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and why arent you using central air? do you not have central a/c?


why not run ducting from an a/c vent to the intake port
 

LoudBlunts

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and email...i used regular tap water for the test run.


that damn chlorine is putting white residue shit on my coco liners/pot

this normal? should i trash the test cocopots?
 

email468

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no central air for me.

i will tackle this project in the next few weeks.

I have white salty residue all over my net pots - i ignore it until it is time to use them again and then i scrub them off :)
 

LoudBlunts

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hey email....


i've been thinking. can i get your honest opinion?


although it works, maybe i was overdoing myself with the coco in aero. it may cause more trouble than help. i mean i have a filter bag on my pump....but still the coco getting into the res may be a problem....although the coco would be minimal b/c of the coco first being in the coco liners.

i just dont want to fuck with that RW..... i might try just hydroton and rapidrooters.....or a mix of hydroton and coco....
 

email468

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hey email....


i've been thinking. can i get your honest opinion?


although it works, maybe i was overdoing myself with the coco in aero. it may cause more trouble than help. i mean i have a filter bag on my pump....but still the coco getting into the res may be a problem....although the coco would be minimal b/c of the coco first being in the coco liners.

i just dont want to fuck with that RW..... i might try just hydroton and rapidrooters.....or a mix of hydroton and coco....
my opinion is - if you need the media to hold water then don't go straight hydroton. But you are doing aero so the roots are constantly (or near-constantly misted) so the media does not need to hold water (in fact it would be better if it didn't) so then go straight hydroton. I use a piece of rapid rooter to keep the seed moist yes - but mostly to hold it in place so it doesn't fall through the hydroton before roots can form.
 
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