Is it possible to DWC a Christmas Tree?

tnrtinr

tnrtinr

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We have a beautiful 12' Noble Fir that I can't help thinking would look great in our yard after the Christmas season. It's our first Christmas at our first home so there are sentimental reasons for this question. I know that I can't just stick the stump in the ground, but is it possible to DWC it and baby it indoors for the cold months and plant outside when it warms up? Or is this un

Just in case I can't do that I setup a little bubbleponic clone chamber to try to get one of the clones to root. I can't find much information on this so I'll let you know how that goes.
 
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tibberous

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Probably, but it would probably die when you transplanted it. Soil hydro works, but hydro to soil generally doesn't. Tree *might* be different (slower growth, more of a trunk to store roots), but I'd just put it in a cloth pot / shopping bag if you really want it to live.

Also, keep in mind it will get HUGE - don't plant it anywhere you'll ever mind having a gaint pine tree.
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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tnrtinr said:
We have a beautiful 12' Noble Fir that I can't help thinking would look great in our yard after the Christmas season. It's our first Christmas at our first home so there are sentimental reasons for this question. I know that I can't just stick the stump in the ground, but is it possible to DWC it and baby it indoors for the cold months and plant outside when it warms up? Or is this un

Just in case I can't do that I setup a little bubbleponic clone chamber to try to get one of the clones to root. I can't find much information on this so I'll let you know how that goes.
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why don't you look into grafting apple trees its your only hope but I don't even think that will work in the winter but its worth a try.
 
tnrtinr

tnrtinr

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bluntmassa1 said:
are you serious? you can't clone a tree you can graft a tree but you aint cloning one. lmao
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You can clone according to U.S. Forest Service. Whether or not "I" can is a whole 'nother question.

superstoner1 said:
once it is cut from its roots it is considered dead. it will not reroot.
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Hypothetically speaking you can't cut a tree and immediately DWC it in a perfect mixture of nutrients? I'm not talking about optimal growth, but keeping it alive.

Why would that be? Is it the size of the plant?
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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tnrtinr said:
You can clone according to U.S. Forest Service. Whether or not "I" can is a whole 'nother question.



Hypothetically speaking you can't cut a tree and immediately DWC it in a perfect mixture of nutrients? I'm not talking about optimal growth, but keeping it alive.

Why would that be? Is it the size of the plant?
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DWC needs roots. cn
 
tnrtinr

tnrtinr

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bluntmassa1 said:
why don't you look into grafting apple trees its your only hope but I don't even think that will work in the winter but its worth a try.
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I'm not going to do anything like that. It's way too cold here for anything like that. I was just hoping to keep the tree on life support long enough.
 
lokie

lokie

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just buy a real tree with a root ball. then you can keep it
where ever you want, conditions permitting.
 
tnrtinr

tnrtinr

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lokie said:
just buy a real tree with a root ball. then you can keep it
where ever you want, conditions permitting.
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That'd be no fun.

I'll fuck with this and let you guys know what I find out. I was hoping that a real green-thumb would be able to help me out and give me constructive ideas.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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tnrtinr said:
How so? Is the issue the size of the full plant requiring more resources than bubbleponic rooting can provide vs. a tiny cutting which requires very little resources?
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The issue isn't size. It is the possession of roots.
I have never seen DWC or any other hydroponic technique used on plants that were not first rooted. Nonwoody plants are relatively easy to clone ... look at the primitive cloning techniques indoor gardeners use with success.
The rooting step (cloning) is held distinct, separate by a combination of horticultural convention and common sense.
Nonrooted cuttings won't grow unless/until they throw roots. Before it roots, it's not a plant. Ambiguity is created imo by the use of the term "rooted cutting".

Woody plants can be cloned, but it isn't quick or easy. The preferred technique is air layering, which will not work if the mother plant is removed from its roots. cn
 
tnrtinr

tnrtinr

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cannabineer said:
The issue isn't size. It is the possession of roots.
I have never seen DWC or any other hydroponic technique used on plants that were not first rooted. Nonwoody plants are relatively easy to clone ... look at the primitive cloning techniques indoor gardeners use with success.
The rooting step (cloning) is held distinct, separate by a combination of horticultural convention and common sense.
Nonrooted cuttings won't grow unless/until they throw roots. Before it roots, it's not a plant. Ambiguity is created imo by the use of the term "rooted cutting".

Woody plants can be cloned, but it isn't quick or easy. The preferred technique is air layering, which will not work if the mother plant is removed from its roots. cn
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Will woody plants not grow roots in a bubbleponic cloner?

I just looked up air layering - pretty interesting technique. I may try that in the spring on some burning bushes that I have and some other trees that I would like more of on my property.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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tnrtinr said:
Will woody plants not grow roots in a bubbleponic cloner?

I just looked up air layering - pretty interesting technique. I may try that in the spring on some burning bushes that I have and some other trees that I would like more of on my property.
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I've never seen or heard of anyone making it work. cn
 
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