RDWC SCROG round 2

redi jedi

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Few shots of where I'm at right now. The strain is OG Kush by Kush Kush. A local T.O breeder, got the seeds at Ontario Seed Bank. I've never done a journal on any of my grows. So I'm gonna try update this thread until harvest.

These clones have been vegging for 3 weeks now and I just set the timer to 12/12 tonite.

I'm using Canna Aqua with tap water, Silica Blast and 300ml of H202 once a week. Just added a fresh batch of sauce tonite at 1.2 EC, 5.8PH. I usually run veg nutes until the 2nd week of flower.

I recently picked up a 1/10 hp chiller, hasn't really been needed (winters coming) but its there anyways and keeping water temps rock steady at 20c. Air temps are 26c lights on and 21c lights off.





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savana

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Good looking setup man..Kinda in the same boat as you. I just finished my first round . Just flipped the lights on 6 chemdogs ;). Keep us posted
 

redi jedi

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Well the top off res is empty so its time for another batch of sauce. When I fill the system with fresh nutes I fill the top off res with plain water PH corrected to 5.8. So as the plants drink my nutes become diluted. Before I drained the system the EC was at .6 and PH was at 6.0.

Nothing exciting happening yet but here are some pics.004.jpg005.jpg002.jpg003.jpg001.jpg
 

TheGreenHornet

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nice low scrog mang. ive been experimenting with the height of the screen for two grows now, still havent decided which height i like best.


subbd up
 

onthedl0008

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Awesome man nice and clean and organized my main goal at this point is getting some kind of screen in place at this point good stuff Jedi.
Peace
 

MrMeanGreen

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Is it just me???

Why have you got a scrog net up other than to make your like difficult?

You have not trained you plants into the scrog at all. What is the point of the net, all it is doing is locking your plants down so you cant maintain your pots. The whole point of a scrog is creating (through training into the net) more tops from fewer plants. If youhad done it properly, you would have had more tops and growth from 2-3 pots.

I think you have missed the point mate or am I missing something here?
 

redi jedi

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Is it just me???

Why have you got a scrog net up other than to make your like difficult?

You have not trained you plants into the scrog at all. What is the point of the net, all it is doing is locking your plants down so you cant maintain your pots. The whole point of a scrog is creating (through training into the net) more tops from fewer plants. If youhad done it properly, you would have had more tops and growth from 2-3 pots.

I think you have missed the point mate or am I missing something here?
Really?...lets see your scrog
 

MrMeanGreen

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I aint lookin for a fight mate, I am trying to understand what you have done and why you have done it and what you hope to achieve. Whilst I am here, why is everyone shouting good job?? Granted your plants look great but thats nothing to do with the scrog net.

I tried scrog and didnt like it. Too much hassle managing it.
 

redi jedi

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I aint lookin for a fight mate, I am trying to understand what you have done and why you have done it and what you hope to achieve. Whilst I am here, why is everyone shouting good job?? Granted your plants look great but thats nothing to do with the scrog net.

I tried scrog and didnt like it. Too much hassle managing it.
lol...thought you might say that.

My main reason for going with a scrog is to control height and to reduce the popcorn you get when growing trees without vertical lighting. But a pro like you would know that already....
 

MrMeanGreen

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Sarcasm... love it.

LOL.... canopy management, there is none. Your tops are everywhere. I aint gonna argue with ya mate. You know best. Good luck and hope you don't get any nasties in them pots.

FYI.... I grew 2 plants, scrog'd over 1.5m x 3m net. Every square inch was populated and my canopy was dead level.

I didn't come here to say mines bigger than yours. Your cheerleaders are giving you false praise, you are doing it wrong.

A GOOD SCROG...... spot the difference.
 

insan3

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Ill be watching this. I never buy local shit but depending how ur goes i might do it next.
 

chadster152

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Sarcasm... love it.

LOL.... canopy management, there is none. Your tops are everywhere. I aint gonna argue with ya mate. You know best. Good luck and hope you don't get any nasties in them pots.

FYI.... I grew 2 plants, scrog'd over 1.5m x 3m net. Every square inch was populated and my canopy was dead level.

I didn't come here to say mines bigger than yours. Your cheerleaders are giving you false praise, you are doing it wrong.

A GOOD SCROG...... spot the difference.
I really hope you aren't trying to pass of someone else's photos as your own to prove your point...cause i just so happen to know exactly where that picture is from and it sure as hell isn't you.... :clap: (applause for the epic fail)

This is one of MY posts in another thread here on RIU. I bet you recognize the pic...and see how i credit the original poster... :finger:
Hi Swagg, your ladies are looking mighty fine. :weed: Don't worry about mistakes on a first grow cause as Krypto said, the first one is always an experiment. I would definitely recommend doing one strain at a time in the future as nute, light, temp, and height requirements are different for every strain.

I am glad you decided to scrog because it will increase your yield and help you to maintain an even canopy. To close the height difference i would scrog for about a week longer, then flip to 12/12. The sativa will continue to stretch for 2-4 weeks after the flip, while the indica will only stretch for about 1-2 weeks. So after the flip continue to scrog the sativa for at least another 2-3 weeks, scrog the indica for about a week (maybe two depending on the height of both plants) and then just let it grow...that way, with some tweaking and customizing on your part, the canopies will be even and you will have many, many bud sites.

As for trimming, it is beneficial to the plant as long as you don't over do it. If you see that a big fan leaf is blocking direct light to a few bud sites, don't be afraid to trim it, but dont give it a buzz cut. :eyesmoke: Once you are a few weeks into flower and the stretch has stopped, it is important to trim very liberally under the screen, that way the plant isn't wasting precious time, energy, and resources on excess leaves and stems and directs them to the canopy where the buds are being produced.


This is a pic from another thread (by profgrow) which shows what i mean.

If i were you, i would go with a carbon filter vs an ozone generator. Ozone is toxic to humans and animals, so be careful if you do use it.

Other than that, it looks like you are handling everything pretty well. As the others in this thread have stated, stick to a simple nute schedule...all the expensive additives are just flash in the pan IMO.

Good luck with your grow and ill be following along. Post a link to your grow journal here if you start one, id love to pull up a seat.

Chadster152bongsmilie
 

redi jedi

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Sarcasm... love it.

LOL.... canopy management, there is none. Your tops are everywhere. I aint gonna argue with ya mate. You know best. Good luck and hope you don't get any nasties in them pots.

FYI.... I grew 2 plants, scrog'd over 1.5m x 3m net. Every square inch was populated and my canopy was dead level.

I didn't come here to say mines bigger than yours. Your cheerleaders are giving you false praise, you are doing it wrong.

A GOOD SCROG...... spot the difference.
LMAO....oh wow, you da man meangreen!!! If your gonna say Im doing it wrong at least try to find some pics that are your own. Not to bash the actual grower of the scrog you posted, but I wouldnt call it dead even and it doesn't occupy every square inch of that screen. Still a nice lookin grow none the less...too bad its not yours!!
 

MrMeanGreen

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I really hope you aren't trying to pass of someone else's photos as your own to prove your point...cause i just so happen to know exactly where that picture is from and it sure as hell isn't you.... :clap: (applause for the epic fail)

This is one of MY posts in another thread here on RIU. I bet you recognize the pic...and see how i credit the original poster... :finger:
LOL LOL, I was baked when I wrote it, didn't expect you to think I was passing it as my own. google 'scrog' i think it is in the top ten images it throws out.

My point was illustrating a SCROG.

Where does 'GOOD SCROG' become 'My SCROG' ??
 

MrMeanGreen

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LMAO....oh wow, you da man meangreen!!! If your gonna say Im doing it wrong at least try to find some pics that are your own. Not to bash the actual grower of the scrog you posted, but I wouldnt call it dead even and it doesn't occupy every square inch of that screen. Still a nice lookin grow none the less...too bad its not yours!!
I already answered you, above. So you were saying about what you hoped to achieve?
 

SteezyDee

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I already answered you, above. So you were saying about what you hoped to achieve?
Why continue arguing Green? You've given your opinion and a picture to support it and they still don't listen.. Some people just dont like criticism lol, it's not your grow so dont stress it.

I would, however, like to say that Green is RIGHT. Also, Redi is criticizing how in the picture provided it's not "dead even" or that it doesnt "occupy every square inch of that screen." A quick glance back at the pictures on page 1 and you see even less utilization of "every square inch" and a less even canopy.. Lol, comedy.

Happy growing guys, with mistakes comes experience.
 

redi jedi

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I'm not professing to being a master scrogger here. If you missed the title, its my second attempt at this so yes I'll agree its not perfect. But its far from what meangreen describes. So if your gonna hold me to perfection, you better be able to show me your work of perfection.
 

MrMeanGreen

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I'm not professing to being a master scrogger here. If you missed the title, its my second attempt at this so yes I'll agree its not perfect. But its far from what meangreen describes. So if your gonna hold me to perfection, you better be able to show me your work of perfection.
This is all getting silly. The guilty parties here those that jumped in for the sake of getting their posting tally up shouting how great it was when in fact, as a scrog, it wasn't great. Your plant look lovely but the scrog just wasn't there. I did not mean to dent your growing prowess and was willing to help you out but then things turned a bit sour. Be carefull who you listen too my friend, there are those that grow in a PC case feeding miracle grow and those that take things a bit more seriously.

I ain't beatin on you mate but whoever taught you about scrog, the mechanics and desired results from a scrog, he / she aint worth listening to. If you have the time, the energy and the ongoing commitment then a scrog can be very fruitful. Otherwise you will be walking into a train wreck.
 
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