Help figuring out best method with a 400 watt hps please help/ grow journal

Medicinalhealing

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Hello all and thanks for looking first I will start with my setup.
i own two stealth grow boxes bought from eBay. One is from Stealthyhydro.com the other is a cheap homemade one of similar quality. Both feature a 6 site dwc system. They use cfls, I bought the two foot one from stealthyhydro then saw a 28" homemade one for $100 cheaper(only had two cfls) and purchased that one too. I also have a 3x7x6.5tall room(will be finished this weekend) with a 400 mh I have ordered the hps it should be here next week. I have 4 clones that I put straight to flower because when I received them they already had bud growing. I also had two plants started from seed in the smaller box, now 4 weeks later they completely outgrew the box so I moved them under the 400 watt for 2-3 more weeks of vegging. One seed is an unknown seed I got from my old caregiver he used to grow green crack, blueberry haze, g13 and mr nice guy so it could be any of those or a crossbreed he had of the mr nice guy and blueberry. The other is a personal favorite jack herer. I just transferred the bag seed into a 2-3 gallon planter of coco. The jack herer is still in the 6 site dwc until its new 5 gallon dwc bucket comes in on Friday. The jack herer is 5 days younger it outgrew the bag seed after 2 weeks until I fimed it now it is about 6" tall but over a foot around with fan leaves the size of my hand crazy what that box could do too bad it took me so long to get the 400 watt the Mylar around the grow box did give a couple leaves some burns. The bag seed caught up I tried the better method of fim pinching it healed so fast and now stand 11" tall but it is NOWHERE near as bushy ( I will try to post pics today or tomorrow). I almost forgot my new caregiver gave my a whole line of nutes from NUTRI+ I could only find one post on RIU about it but I can say for sure it is an amazing line after what it did to my plants. Anything I may have missed please just ask. Anyway the plan I initially had was to use the two grow boxes and start a perpetual grow. Starting one plant every week. Three plants per box ( one box wouldn't be used at first). After 6 weeks of vegging then moved to flower room under a 400 watt hps. 8+ weeks of flowering depending on strain. I do realize that by week 13 or so the flower room would end up having 2 monster plants and 6 smaller ones, but I figured by then I would have enough money to get a 600 or 1000 watt to add to the room. But then I thought I could always do sog with 4 plants and harvest every 8 weeks hopefully, start the seeds in the box(2 plants per box) after transferring the others to hps. I need some help figuring out what's best to have an oz per week. Also this first harvest I was thinking of vegging 4 clones for 2-3 weeks then when I switch the two I have to the hps I would put all six in the flower room and have a little extra money after the first harvest, but I am unsure if I should just veg a week or two more and have one tall plant and one huge bush(jack herer) but I'd want to get at least 5-6 oz's to be happy. So sorry for the long start but hopefully someone can help me with this. Any questions just ask.
 

StewartWarner

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okay so i didnt really want to read the wall of text lol the enter key works wonders lol
but the plants look good and ill keep checking in if u keep with the updating :)
 

kryptoniteglo

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I'm using 400WTs in a grow tent 3x3x6.5. It's okay. I have two plants, but topped young so they're big bushes and the two plants take up the whole tent. A little more light would be better, I think, so I think in your space, which is 7 feet on one side, could use more light if you want to make the most of the entire space. But if you're going to focus the light on two plants or maybe three if only one is a bush, then you should be okay.
 

Medicinalhealing

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Yea the upside is from the iPad and I didn't feel like changing lol but right now the light is only covering a 3x3 area after this harvest I'm gonna invest in a 600 watt and have them side by side...
I got my 5 gallon bubble bucket in so I had to give updates on the jack.
the bag seed is shocked no new growth yet :( the only good thing is there is no yellowing or droopy ness.
 

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Medicinalhealing

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Also I just remembered that this is a month from when it sprouted so I measured it grew 3 inches taller and 6" wider. the picture does no justice! It is now a total of 9" tall and 18" across. How much longer should I veg for? The other is still 11" tall x12" wide.
I am trying to get 2 oz per plant. I honestly don't know what to expect if you guys think I can get more tell me what I need to do.
thanks everyone for joining
 

Medicinalhealing

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So here I am with my weekly update, I just feed the plants and i have added two little plants under the mh one is a clone and the other is a seedling that sprouted this morning. I have three other seedling sprouted after germinating 8 seeds but who knows the other 4 could still come up.
 

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missnu

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Hello all and thanks for looking first I will start with my setup.
i own two stealth grow boxes bought from eBay. One is from Stealthyhydro.com the other is a cheap homemade one of similar quality. Both feature a 6 site dwc system. They use cfls, I bought the two foot one from stealthyhydro then saw a 28" homemade one for $100 cheaper(only had two cfls) and purchased that one too. I also have a 3x7x6.5tall room(will be finished this weekend) with a 400 mh I have ordered the hps it should be here next week. I have 4 clones that I put straight to flower because when I received them they already had bud growing. I also had two plants started from seed in the smaller box, now 4 weeks later they completely outgrew the box so I moved them under the 400 watt for 2-3 more weeks of vegging. One seed is an unknown seed I got from my old caregiver he used to grow green crack, blueberry haze, g13 and mr nice guy so it could be any of those or a crossbreed he had of the mr nice guy and blueberry. The other is a personal favorite jack herer. I just transferred the bag seed into a 2-3 gallon planter of coco. The jack herer is still in the 6 site dwc until its new 5 gallon dwc bucket comes in on Friday. The jack herer is 5 days younger it outgrew the bag seed after 2 weeks until I fimed it now it is about 6" tall but over a foot around with fan leaves the size of my hand crazy what that box could do too bad it took me so long to get the 400 watt the Mylar around the grow box did give a couple leaves some burns. The bag seed caught up I tried the better method of fim pinching it healed so fast and now stand 11" tall but it is NOWHERE near as bushy ( I will try to post pics today or tomorrow). I almost forgot my new caregiver gave my a whole line of nutes from NUTRI+ I could only find one post on RIU about it but I can say for sure it is an amazing line after what it did to my plants. Anything I may have missed please just ask. Anyway the plan I initially had was to use the two grow boxes and start a perpetual grow. Starting one plant every week. Three plants per box ( one box wouldn't be used at first). After 6 weeks of vegging then moved to flower room under a 400 watt hps. 8+ weeks of flowering depending on strain. I do realize that by week 13 or so the flower room would end up having 2 monster plants and 6 smaller ones, but I figured by then I would have enough money to get a 600 or 1000 watt to add to the room. But then I thought I could always do sog with 4 plants and harvest every 8 weeks hopefully, start the seeds in the box(2 plants per box) after transferring the others to hps. I need some help figuring out what's best to have an oz per week. Also this first harvest I was thinking of vegging 4 clones for 2-3 weeks then when I switch the two I have to the hps I would put all six in the flower room and have a little extra money after the first harvest, but I am unsure if I should just veg a week or two more and have one tall plant and one huge bush(jack herer) but I'd want to get at least 5-6 oz's to be happy. So sorry for the long start but hopefully someone can help me with this. Any questions just ask.
I use 2 tents and one 400w MH and one 400 CMH and I get around 3 oz per plant and I can fit 3-4 plants in the flower tent. It is awesome that you can pretty much cram a veg tent full with little issue...because you fill the veg tent and then move the plants into flower as you need to...

Best advice, use at least 3-5 gallon pots, and train the plants to be as tall and lanky or short and bushy as you want... if one is tall and branchy then just keep pinching off the tops as in like once a week go pinch the top of every branch out...everywhere there is a top, remove it...in no time you will have a weed shrub.

So since you are just starting out then remove the one spot of new growth...then when 2 tops grow in pinch the middle out of both of those tops...and then pinch off the resulting 4 tops and so on and so forth...
 

missnu

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Also I just remembered that this is a month from when it sprouted so I measured it grew 3 inches taller and 6" wider. the picture does no justice! It is now a total of 9" tall and 18" across. How much longer should I veg for? The other is still 11" tall x12" wide.
I am trying to get 2 oz per plant. I honestly don't know what to expect if you guys think I can get more tell me what I need to do.
thanks everyone for joining

To get 2 oz per plant you need to have large enough pots and enough veg time...you'll get it...you should also look at trying to use clones more than seeds...it seriously takes down on the waiting time...

I take a clone a week before flowering a plant...and before the "mother" plant has finished flowering I have a freaking jungle with the clones I took...I literally have to trim them all in half after a month...but that only helps them to get thicker and bushier. Anyway you just have to get some practice and the timing will work itself out... but you should be able to get 2 oz easily. Just don't overwater or overfeed.
 

Medicinalhealing

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Thanks I am gonna do that with the jack herer she is so good looking how many should I take? I think I am gonna veg her till New Years. I want the end result to be a 4 foot bush
 

Medicinalhealing

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Here is my weekly update the jack is getting big! I think after New Years ill switch the light on her. I also finished polling my room it ended up being 5'x33" at the end of the month ill put in a little 400 watt with round reflector http://www.ebay.com/itm/400-watt-high-pressure-sodium-and-metal-halide-ballast-reflector-and-bulb-kit-/221019787949?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3375ce52ad&quantity=1&autorefresh=true

She is currently 16" tall and 24" wide
some light is off there is no yellow on her
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